Found Deceased Australia - Samuel Thompson, 22, Albion, Qld, 7 March 2017 *Arrests* #4

[Horror]

He has been charged with murder and interference with a corpse,yes. Has it been released as to how much involvement he had?. He wouldnt have the same look in his eyes while on drugs. They all look like walking zombies especially on Ice

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I think it is worth remembering Sam was missing for several weeks. So involvement is at the fullest - as in no one screamed for help in a tragic accident ?


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[Karinna]

Given the last photo posted, Id be very surprised if there was no drug involvement. Ice users have tell tale signs.
http://health.gov.au/internet/drugs/publishingcp.nsf/Content/facts-about-ice

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But we don't know for sure what if anything he had or they both ingested if anything before they committed murder. But i would imagine they were drug tested when being processed at the jail, and there would be a clearer picture of what if anything showed up in their system.

 

[Karinna]

Maybe Sam's murder and the drugs-side-of-the-story are possibly connected to this latest huge cocaine drug bust (the largest of its kind in Qld) a few days ago?

We have discussed this and supplied links upthread...

Is it just a co-incidence that the story broke just after Sam's funeral.. and also.. there being no media attention at all on the funeral?..:dunno: :waiting:

Exactly. As i said yesterday, coincidence or not? I think not.

 

[SouthAussie]

Sorry I have to disagree there is 1 story only and he is now unable to tell it


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Very well said, Horror. There is only one story. And we can be pretty sure that we will NEVER get to know completely what that one story is. Just the closest possible rendition of it that the police can determine.

The alleged perpetrators will say whatever is in their own personal best interest(s).

 

[SouthAussie]

But we don't know for sure what if anything he had or they both ingested if anything before they committed murder. But i would imagine they were drug tested when being processed at the jail, and there would be a clearer picture of what if anything showed up in their system.

Not that it will have any bearing at all on their charges or on any guilt in the murder of Sam.

We do not commit murder, we do not put ourselves into a condition where we could commit murder (apparently even hypnotised people will not do something that goes against their personal morals), we do not interfere with corpses or hide bodies.

Those are the rules that we all have to play by. And we are all very aware of those rules.

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[Marples]

Have we had those posters say they 'know them', or 'know of them'? There is a difference, in terms of needing verification.

Well just off the top of my head:
drb has been open about knowing AD,
I think it's Twinkletoes maybe who said she knew ST and
a person claiming to be a friend of ST family was on here commenting about the .

Happy for the locals and peeps who know/knew these young men.




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[Marples]

...but AD has that same look and expression...especially the EYES... in just about every pic I've seen of him (regardless of whether it has been from a long flight and being questioned by the AFP).

I guess I don't always see that, but each to their own. I've seen a picture of him when he was a bit younger, with mates, and he looks like an Average Joe IMO.




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[Karinna]

Not that it will have any bearing at all on their charges or on any guilt in the murder of Sam.

We do not commit murder, we do not put ourselves into a condition where we could commit murder (apparently even hypnotised people will not do something that goes against their personal morals), we do not interfere with corpses or hide bodies.

Those are the rules that we all have to play by. And we are all very aware of those rules.

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Oh absolutely, and i totally agree.

 

[Marples]

He is copping 'flak' because he is one of the accused murderers of Samuel Thompson, the topic of this thread. It doesn't make him only half a murderer IYKWIM

I wouldn't term it as flak, I guess AD is receiving a disproportionate amount of attention, given two people are charged with the same crime. Whilst frustrating, Because more info on RB would be welcome, I suppose MSM can only report on what they find.

And I did giggle at "half a murderer", it reminded me of being "a little bit pregnant" LOL


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[SouthAussie]

Well just off the top of my head:
drb has been open about knowing AD,
I think it's Twinkletoes maybe who said she knew ST and
a person claiming to be a friend of ST family was on here commenting about the .

Happy for the locals and peeps who know/knew these young men.




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The only issue is, in order to speak of things as fact (that are not linkable, as in MSM and other authorised links) to do with the alleged perpetrators or victim, they must become a Verified Insider.

Otherwise it must be stated as their opinion.

And that has been lacking here, repeatedly.

 

[Karinna]

It also looks nothing like the pic of RB posted on Channel 7. (I'll try to find that one - it was nickers who posted it originally I think)

Look on page no. 26 Thread No. 2 Post no. 376 Pic of RB there.

 

[possumheart]

Look on page no. 26 Thread No. 2 Post no. 376 Pic of RB there.

From quoted post:

 

[MsAnais]

Thanks Karinna and Poss for finding the RB photo :seeya:

 

[Meeks]

But we don't know for sure what if anything he had or they both ingested if anything before they committed murder. But i would imagine they were drug tested when being processed at the jail, and there would be a clearer picture of what if anything showed up in their system.

I am not sure if it is routine to drug test all when arrested unless for drug related issues which this may well be i guess

 

[SouthAussie]

I am not sure if it is routine to drug test all when arrested unless for drug related issues which this may well be i guess

I wondered the same thing ... if it was routine or not. So I looked around quite a bit the other night to try to find out, and it seemed that some arrested persons were drug tested, many were not. I guess it may depend on the circumstances.

They may have to get permission to drug test. I know they need permission (or a warrant) to body check and DNA check, from the cases here that I have followed. It is not like random alcohol and drug tests on our roads.

 

[Meeks]

I am not sure if it is routine to drug test all when arrested unless for drug related issues which this may well be i guess

Even when a person is arrested for drug related issues they are rarely tested from what i have seen. Drink or drug driving would be the only exceptions i am aware of

 

[Meeks]

I wondered the same thing ... if it was routine or not. So I looked around quite a bit the other night to try to find out, and it seemed that some arrested persons were drug tested, many were not. I guess it may depend on the circumstances.

They may have to get permission to drug test. I know they need permission (or a warrant) to body check and DNA check, from the cases here that I have followed. It is not like random alcohol and drug tests on our roads.

They certainly do require a substantial reason to gain blood work from people to test for drugs or alcohol which is conducted in a hospital environment. Usually this is when there has been a significant injury or fatality which i have only ever witnessed with relation to mva's.

 

[Horror]

Even when a person is arrested for drug related issues they are rarely tested from what i have seen. Drink or drug driving would be the only exceptions i am aware of

I agree, I don't think you can be charged for being high ? And unless caught in a criminal act within a specific time period like 12 hrs for example or whatever I can't imagine what the point would be.


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[Karinna]

I am not sure if it is routine to drug test all when arrested unless for drug related issues which this may well be i guess

Alcohol and drug testing

A police officer may ask you to provide a breath, saliva, blood or urine sample for testing if they suspect you’ve committed:

particular driving offences while intoxicated (ie drunk) or
particular offences involving violence while intoxicated in a public place within the last 3 hours.
http://www.legalaid.qld.gov.au/Find...d-your-rights/Identification-and-body-samples

That's all i have found so far. The one committing violence would be applicable i would think, with or without alcohol though?

 

[SouthAussie]

Alcohol and drug testing

A police officer may ask you to provide a breath, saliva, blood or urine sample for testing if they suspect you’ve committed:

particular driving offences while intoxicated (ie drunk) or
particular offences involving violence while intoxicated in a public place within the last 3 hours.
http://www.legalaid.qld.gov.au/Find...d-your-rights/Identification-and-body-samples

That's all i have found so far. The one committing violence would be applicable i would think, with or without alcohol though?

Not sure. It does say "in a public place" ... and this crime was apparently in a private residence.

Plus, they were arrested days and days after the crime. There would be no way to accurately determine if they were off their faces at the time of the crime.

So, I don't think they would have bothered to drug test them. imo