Found Deceased Australia - Stephanie Scott, 26, Leeton, NSW, 5 April 2015 - #1 *Arrests*

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and you, Pi..nice to catch up . .. yes, it's lonely country out that way.. .. I am banking on him not being a native son of the Griffith and Leeton soil, and expecting him to have made a fundamental error.. it's clear he isn't about to collapse and lead the coppers to the site.. I get the distinct impression the NSW police are letting him stew for a while , determining to find where the remains of this vibrant woman are without his assistance. Then lay it all out on him.
 
andyroo said:
I'm not sure why you don't seem to get this. He killed her at school. Put her in the back of his car (hence the blood). Drove her car to the farm, then walked back to the school to his car. Then he is free to dispose of the body literally anywhere.
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Sounds plausible but do you really think he would leave his own car with a body inside at the school where he works and people would know his car? I agree he's not the sharpest tool in the shed but that's a bit much even for him.
 
Trooper said:
and you, Pi..nice to catch up . .. yes, it's lonely country out that way.. .. I am banking on him not being a native son of the Griffith and Leeton soil, and expecting him to have made a fundamental error.. it's clear he isn't about to collapse and lead the coppers to the site.. I get the distinct impression the NSW police are letting him stew for a while , determining to find where the remains of this vibrant woman are without his assistance. Then lay it all out on him.
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So awfully sad but I think you are on the money. I wondered about the burning of the body, think that may have been panic to try and hide evidence??
 
Belz said:
That's what I read too but from that post (#416) it sounds as though MSM have reported they weren't there... Confusing!
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Belz, that is my post you're referring to. I'll try and find the link where I read that VS's family had been away. It didn't say they were away at the time of VS's arrest and I took it to mean they may have been away over the Easter break, hence VS was home alone.
 
sleepinoz said:
Sounds plausible but do you really think he would leave his own car with a body inside at the school where he works and people would know his car? I agree he's not the sharpest tool in the shed but that's a bit much even for him.
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Whether he left her in his car or in the school while he got rid of the red mazda is not really important. It's easy to hide a body in the back of a ute, especially one with a canopy, just throw a tarp over it.

From these multiple sightings of him disposing of evidence, it appears he has spread the evidence out to try and cover his tracks. He clearly tried to make it as difficult as possible that sick son of a *****.
 
they'll get you said:
Luckily this guy was on the ball.


Police divers have found a laptop in a waterway near Leeton while searching for murdered Stephanie Scott's body.
Truck driver Brendan Lyons said he saw a man matching her accused killer Vincent Stanford's description throw what looked like a bag holding a laptop into an irrigation channel on Monday afternoon, the day after police allege the 26-year-old bride-to-be was murdered.
Mr Lyons rents a machinery shed opposite to where he saw the man throw the bag on Griffith Road, 4km outside of Leeton in the NSW Riverina region.
It was on his tip off that police divers were searching there today when they retrieved a laptop.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...police-comb-house-evidence.html#ixzz3WsFpXkby
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Paul Halls was working on his ute with friends west of Leeton on Sunday when he saw a man pull up and head on foot for a murky canal nearby, carrying something that looked like a laptop, before returning empty-handed.

"I thought it was a bit odd," Mr Halls said of the scene that unfolded on Griffith Road, a few kilometres out of town.

When Mr Halls later heard police appealing for information about the disappearance of school teacher Stephanie Scott, he realised the possible significance of what he had seen and called the police.
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Mr Halls' friend, Brendon Lyons, also saw a man run up to the irrigation canal and run back to his ute on Sunday, before speeding off in the direction of Leeton
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http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/stephanie...en-he-saw-man-near-canal-20150410-1mida0.html

bbm - I wish they could get their facts straight! Which is it - Sunday or Monday??

I trust smh more. If it was Sunday, it could narrow down the murder time if he was seen in the afternoon.
 
well. A human body is a most inconvenient thing to lumbered with.. its the one problem that causes more murderers to be caught than almost any other aspect of the crime in question. Burning.. the thing is, whole industries and a great deal of money is expended designing and constructing edifices that actually do burn a human body effectively . It isn't a job for your backyard amateur. And it isn't high summer, either, and it rained a little bit, too around the Leeton area . ..

Psychologically, burning would be the big thing. .the symbolic up in flames thing, the eradication of not only the crime but the guilt, all up in smoke.. ... poof!! gone!!.. this , surely , would be a factor in the act .
 
daily mail has updated, they are now saying Sunday.

Police divers have found a laptop in a waterway near Leeton while searching for murdered Stephanie Scott's body.
Two men said they saw a man matching her accused killer Vincent Stanford's description throw what looked like a bag holding a laptop into an irrigation channel on Sunday afternoon, the day police allege the 26-year-old bride-to-be was murdered.
Brendan Lyons rents a machinery shed opposite to where he saw the man throw the bag on Griffith Road, 4km outside of Leeton in the NSW Riverina region.
Mr Lyons' friend Paul Halls was with him at the time and confirmed he saw it take place on Sunday at 4pm.
'I saw a white Ute parked across the road. He walked up the bank with what looked like a laptop or iPad in his hand, with a red cover on it,' Mr Halls told Daily Mail Australia.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...harged-murder-police-comb-house-evidence.html
 
Trooper said:
well. A human body is a most inconvenient thing to lumbered with.. its the one problem that causes more murderers to be caught than almost any other aspect of the crime in question. Burning.. the thing is, whole industries and a great deal of money is expended designing and constructing edifices that actually do burn a human body effectively . It isn't a job for your backyard amateur. And it isn't high summer, either, and it rained a little bit, too around the Leeton area . ..

Psychologically, burning would be the big thing. .the symbolic up in flames thing, the eradication of not only the crime but the guilt, all up in smoke.. ... poof!! gone!!.. this , surely , would be a factor in the act .
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Good to see you here Trooper...................surely someone, somewhere, saw something!
 
drsleuth said:
Good to see you here Trooper...................surely someone, somewhere, saw something!
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Sleuth... ( I can hardly bear to look at your avatar!! )... He may have been very lucky.. no one saw Baden Clay hurl Alison over the bridge either. .. Some killers get breaks.. . I think people did see stuff, but don't know quite what they saw. I thought it was significant that no one in town had really heard of him, or knew him except the people closest in propinquity to him.. he didn't seem to be a socialising kind of bloke at all. Which, in a country town, requires effort, because against your will , people will drag you into things and up for things.. He seems to have gone under the radar not just on this day, but for some time.
 
andyroo said:
I'm not sure why you don't seem to get this. He killed her at school. Put her in the back of his car (hence the blood). Drove her car to the farm, then walked back to the school to his car. Then he is free to dispose of the body literally anywhere.
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We're all just expressing our own opinions and theories here based on the information from media and police - we can disagree with each other without getting annoyed or personal. If you have definitive information about the case, it would be great to hear it and know its source.

On the subject of whether or not a cleaner would be present in the school on a public holiday, I wouldn't be surprised if those with keys pop in to finish up jobs they hadn't completed during their normal hours. I know at my school (in a small town) this happens, but I suppose not all work sites would necessarily be that flexible. I know non-teaching staff members who pop in and out regularly to monitor our school swimming pool machinery, and even to do a spot of gardening in a particular area which is a pet project and pride and joy in their own time - they live very close by and potter around and check on things whenever they fancy. I'm not suggesting that this is the case with VS at all, but just saying that it's not unusual for staff to pop in and out for one reason or another. And depending on the person, their reasons might not always be above board. Someone with keys also has access to a lot property that doesn't belong to them - perhaps Stephanie stumbled upon something unexpectedly at school and VS reacted violently.
 
Trooper said:
well. A human body is a most inconvenient thing to lumbered with.. its the one problem that causes more murderers to be caught than almost any other aspect of the crime in question. Burning.. the thing is, whole industries and a great deal of money is expended designing and constructing edifices that actually do burn a human body effectively . It isn't a job for your backyard amateur. And it isn't high summer, either, and it rained a little bit, too around the Leeton area . ..

Psychologically, burning would be the big thing. .the symbolic up in flames thing, the eradication of not only the crime but the guilt, all up in smoke.. ... poof!! gone!!.. this , surely , would be a factor in the act .
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Excellent post trooper[emoji106]
 
I'm not so sure he killed her at the school. Even if he DID clean up afterwards (but that would have taken time and kept him hanging around a crimes scene, plus - he didn't bother to clean his own car of the blood...), I reckon forensic tests these days would still have found something. More likely, in my mind, that he gagged her or knocked her out or something, just to get her off the school premises asap. He'd have had to consider that people knew where she was and someone could have turned up looking for her. I reckon he'd have spent as little time as possible there.
That being said, I can't work out how he dealt with both his and her car! But I dont reckon he'd have left his own ute with a body inside it, parked there for all that long.
 
Makara said:
VS is referred to as Stephanie's colleague in this article.



Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...-be-stephanie-scotts-body#4QwaWv4WiZAxhIqW.99
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Interesting you should post that, I still wonder if this guy is actually " the colleague" whom Stephanie got key off, and presumably had to return. I can't think of any logical reason why even the most stupid killer would hold on to those keys, unless they were his responsibility, the police were on to this guy from day one, if she picked up the keys from him, he knew where she was, so crime scene could have been at school, or at his house where he knew she would be returning at some point.
 
This is the worst case ever, just the worst. I can't believe he wont even tell them where she is. I just can't even stand the news reports on this one, just rips your heart out. I can't help thinking of Jill M too, and I wonder if her husband will reach out to Stephanie's fiance, I tend to hope so, nobody else could understand what each has gone though :( :( :(
 
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