Australia Australia - Tamam Shud Case - Male, Dec 1948

[Doeologist]

I read that his eyes were listed as grey. (One report said grey-blue. Some say hazel which I would take as greenish brown) However, it's been said that eyes can turn greyish at death.

So the eye color looks indeterminate and I don't think it can be used as a factor in assessing candidates. William A Mathias had brown eyes.

Bizarre Things That Happen to Your Body After You Die | The Healthy

 

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His eyes were blue. His eyes were grey. His pupils were irregular... les yeux sont le miroir de l'âme

 

[tomdzi]

I found this by using AZdecrypt 1.19

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[Doeologist]

His eyes were blue. His eyes were grey. His pupils were irregular... les yeux sont le miroir de l'âme

At death, a deceased person’s eyes will look blue or grey, even if their eyes were brown or green.
https://dying.lovetoknow.com/what-is-death-like/when-why-eye-colors-change-before-death

Somerton Man’s hair colour is more definitive and distinctive. It’s mousey grey.

William Mathias had “mixed gray”’hair even in his 20s.

He’s the uncle of RE’s 2nd to 3rd cousin match. 2nd to 3rd would likely include 1st cousin once removed which is the case if that is her grandfather.

 

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Somerton Man eye pupils were irregular at autopsy.

 

[Victoria Chambers]

Somerton Man eye pupils were irregular at autopsy.

Any indication as to what the irregularity was or was related to please?

 

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Any indication as to what the irregularity was or was related to please?

Inside running.

 

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One of these two is reporting the Tamam Shud mystery. One went on to found Media Watch and be a barrister. The other became a Hollywood celebrity.

 

[Ajaygee11]

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One of these two is reporting the Tamam Shud mystery. One went on to found Media Watch and be a barrister. The other became a Hollywood celebrity.

Paul Hogan as George Fungus

 

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Direct cut to driver in Ford Falcon XC, 1978. No cruise control. Not with two hands firmly on steering wheel. Not wearing seatbelt. Not looking at road ahead.

 

[Ajaygee11]

Direct cut to driver in Ford Falcon XC, 1978. No cruise control. Not with two hands firmly on steering wheel. Not wearing seatbelt. Not looking at road ahead.

I thought barristers were meant to be intelligent

 

[Kemug]

Several of my close family members have green eyes... thinking about the speculation that Talmud Doe might have been a dancer and wondering now if maybe he was a highland dancer?!

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And called Robert.

 

[Victoria Chambers]

Re the plaster bust of Somerton Man, I see a younger man than who I see when I look at the b/w pictures. Which do people think would be the most accurate resemblance?

 

[MissBlueesteyes]

I've just been watching a YouTube video entitled "10 Historical Puzzles We're Still Working on Solving" on the TopTenz channel. Simon Whistler mentions that Somerton Man "had well formed calf muscles" & "pointed feet", suggesting he either had a habit of walking in high heeled shoes or danced ballet. However, there is another possibility that could reveal the identity of the person. From my medical background (advanced first aider, degree in health & social care, studying for a degree in health science, worked in multiple hospitals & with people with learning &/or physical disabilities), I know that it's possible that he could have been what's know as a toe-walker. This is exactly what it sounds like, the person walks on their toes, rather than their feet. This also leads to the possibility of other physical &/or learning disabilities, including the possibility of autism. Does this ring a bell with anyone who knows more about the case? Does this make you think of the possible identity of the person?

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Man claims to have seen Somerton Man’s dead body

 

[Laughing]

I've just been watching a YouTube video entitled "10 Historical Puzzles We're Still Working on Solving" on the TopTenz channel. Simon Whistler mentions that Somerton Man "had well formed calf muscles" & "pointed feet", suggesting he either had a habit of walking in high heeled shoes or danced ballet. However, there is another possibility that could reveal the identity of the person. From my medical background (advanced first aider, degree in health & social care, studying for a degree in health science, worked in multiple hospitals & with people with learning &/or physical disabilities), I know that it's possible that he could have been what's know as a toe-walker. This is exactly what it sounds like, the person walks on their toes, rather than their feet. This also leads to the possibility of other physical &/or learning disabilities, including the possibility of autism. Does this ring a bell with anyone who knows more about the case? Does this make you think of the possible identity of the person?

In that case, I expect the medical examiner would mention the related changes to connective tissue & joints. Walking without heel contact often starts with contracture of ligaments/tendons in joints and changes the wear within all joints.

Not looking for a link, I have spine & hip issues (that caused knee issues) and know a few things about human gait mechanics. NOTE: Physical Therapy improved my mobility and quality of life and I am forever grateful and aware of my gait mechanics.

If the autopsy/medical examiner/coroner states dance, then IMHO the decedent's joints indicated dance or similar athleticism. Or habitual use of pesky high-heeled shoes.

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[TootsieFootsie]

Beyond the Grave | 'The Somerton Man'

Now, in an update to our first program in 2019, Somerton Man’s remains have been exhumed from an Adelaide cemetery in the hope that the mysteries behind this enduring cold case might finally be revealed.


Australian Story

Airs Monday September 6 on ABCTV, iview and Youtube.

 

[Melt71]

I watched the Australian Story show. Not much was new, the remains are with Forensic SA (the state lab), a number of tests will be run over coming months. The attempt to secure DNA from hair caught in the death mask was unsuccessful as they could only get 2% of what they needed. A falling out between the lead investigator and the professor married to the possible granddaughter was an interesting side note. Someone else surmised that they were both too competitive in wanting a solve.

No mention of genetic genealogy by the scientists or whether the alleged granddaughter has previously gone down this path. The South Australian Attorney-General who approved the exhumation noted that she studied the case at school and wants to know his name.

 

[Melt71]

Man claims to have seen Somerton Man’s dead body

. I also noted that in this article it mentions he was carrying in his possession an aluminium (US=aluminum) hair comb not available in Australia at the time but available in the US.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

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Tributes for 103-year-old Paul Lawson – an SA Museum taxidermist and expert witness in the Somerton Man case.

The man behind the SA Museum’s beloved World of Mammals display, and a key witness in the Somerton Man case, has died aged 103.