Australia - Warriena Wright, 26, dies in balcony fall, Surfers Paradise, Aug 2014 #7

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And this guy was given the gift of life and love by his parents. And, as far as I can see in the extensive information we have found, all he has done is waste away his adult life. At the expense of others. His parents have rightly or wrongly tried to protect him from himself, to no avail. Now Warriena has paid the ultimate price.

This whole situation makes me very sad, and mad.

I agree SA. Tostee has been enabled all of his adult life IMO. He is very childlike but is also a complex character. IMO he should have accepted and admitted to his persuasions years ago as opposed to demeaning and hurting the women he despised by his own admission and degradation.
 
I actually find myself feeling sorry for him. No real social life, nothing like the circle of family and friends most people are bonded with.

Just a lonely guy trying to hook up with more and more girls, keeping tally and recording all his one night stands, trying to see himself as some sort of stud. Bragging of his conquests on a bodybuilding forum, all the while never forming any real relationships, not building any lasting happiness. Just a procession of one-nighters that went nowhere. What a loser.

Sad behaviour. OCD only explains part of what he's documented too. But one thing is for sure, he's very confused socially. Scripting, documenting, monitoring, seeking praise and recognition for his conquests (real or not). Am I normal, boys? Fake it til he makes it...but he won't ever make it because he lacks the socialisation skills that prevent him from ever being able to act naturally and feel like he fits in.
 
What I find really sad and somewhat disgusting is that both the prosecution and the defence have relied almost solely on Tostee's tape to present their respective cases to the jury. It was all too easy for both sides. The evidence was handed to them on a silver platter...Tostee's sickening tape of the night Warriena died. Just hand the jury the tape and let them decide. The prosecution and defence don't have to do anything further now other than to sit back and collect their exorbitant fees. IMO the prosecution could not give a stuff about justice for Warriena and the defence already know that Tostee is a and as guilty as sin.

Both teams will sit down together over a bottle of red or two when this case is done.

Next!
 
What I find really sad and somewhat disgusting is that both the prosecution and the defence have relied almost solely on Tostee's tape to present their respective cases to the jury. It was all too easy for both sides. The evidence was handed to them on a silver platter...Tostee's sickening tape of the night Warriena died. Just hand the jury the tape and let them decide. The prosecution and defence don't have to do anything further now other than to sit back and collect their exorbitant fees. IMO the prosecution could not give a stuff about justice for Warriena and the defence already know that Tostee is a and as guilty as sin.

Both teams will sit down together over a bottle of red or two when this case is done.

Next!

We should set up the CWA Detective Agency....put cases together over jam and scones :gathering: oh and a few of these :toastred:
 
I'm glad I didn't witness Warriena's shattered body on the pavement, or have to tag the scene, or load her into a van for post-mortem.
I'm glad I am not the colleague or sister that had to pack up Warriena's desk at the bank.
I'm glad that I didn't have to negotiate with the funeral directors after my sister/daughter/cousin/neice's holiday.
I'm glad I didn't have to receive her belongings back from the police, and I didn't have to settle her hotel bill.
I'm glad I didn't spend her last day sight seeing with her and that I don't live with the regret that I organised nothing to do that evening.
I'm sorry that Warriena's mother, like Warriena, 'just wants to go home'. No matter the outcome, we will never be able to right these wrongs. All it would have taken was one act of chivalry, a taxi on speed-dial ... not a lawyer on speed dial.
Wow. This is so powerful. One of the best posts I've read. Thank you.

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Acknowledged guruagain. Not going into that sad little world again!

Gate gate paragate. Parasamgate. Bodhi svaha.

Goodnight all.
 
Her shoe's were inside near the lounge - The black ones behind the coffee table

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His are on the balcony

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Hi all, does anyone know, or was it stated in earlier threads what the white cord with the wide mouth (and what looks like it's cap nearby) is that is coming out of the floor inside by the sliding door?

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Hi all, does anyone know, or was it stated in earlier threads what the white cord with the wide mouth (and what looks like it's cap nearby) is that is coming out of the floor inside by the sliding door?

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Not sure but my guess would be to plug in the sun bed?
 
Hi all, does anyone know, or was it stated in earlier threads what the white cord with the wide mouth (and what looks like it's cap nearby) is that is coming out of the floor inside by the sliding door?

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Agree with barcode that it looks like a connection to the tanning bed; I know an electrician and will ask his opinion tomorrow. The white thing beside it would be one of Gabe's pet rocks.
 
Sen Const Sheldon says there was also a bracket between the dining table and coffee table. Belonged to telescope. #tostee
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Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou Oct 11

Sen Const Sheldon says he conducted a search of Tostee's apartment and collected the telescope. It was on the coffee table.


We are now looking at photograph of a bulky metal bracket on the floor. Telescope on glass coffee table. #tostee
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Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou Oct 11

Sen Const Sheldon says there was also a bracket between the dining table and coffee table. Belonged to telescope. #tostee
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Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou Oct 11

Sen Const Sheldon says he conducted a search of Tostee's apartment and collected the telescope. It was on the coffee table.
If that black thing on the floor is the bracket, I'll bet there's also an adjustable pole that goes with it as suggested in some googling of spotting telescopes. Could that be what he was seen holding as he was escaping..um I mean exiting the scene? Could that be what he unscrewed? Could that have had damning DNA? This is just MY OPINION. THEORY. ETC.

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For almost the entirety of the 8 minutes he has her restrained (most likely in a bear hug or sitting over her) preventing her from continuing her aggression towards him. Then he explains to her that he is going to remove her out of the front door, as she is, without her getting her things, just the way she is, so no trying anything as this is whats going to happen. Then he slightly releases her to do exactly this, then she takes off, obviously in the other direction from front door, so instead he has no choice but to lock her out the balcony door................ How is this murder or even manslaughter.
Because you left out the part where she asked to go home and he told her no because she was a bad girl.


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What? Really. An energy drink. But instead of drinking it normally he conceals it then he holds it suspiciously.
And doesn't drink from it!

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I suggest he could have owned (again moo, theory) a clamp for using telescope on balcony. It's what I'm reminded of when I see the pics of him leaving scene carrying slim object. Not an energy drink, but a part of his telescopic kit. I dunno, just brainstorming.

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I think the initial police investigation was probably a bit lax. Just 'another balcony death'. Until they found the recording. Then things stepped up ... a lot.
I think this could be why the prosecution didn't have a heck of a lot of material to work with. He needed to work with evidence, not theory, and by the time police got really serious about this and started re-enacting Warriena's fall etc .... evidence could have gone 'missing'.
Very lax then. To me, just the fact that the apartment owner took off, did not dial emergency, or try to seek help from a neighbor should have been their very first clue. If he isn't convicted it will be because of shoddy work.

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Hi all, does anyone know, or was it stated in earlier threads what the white cord with the wide mouth (and what looks like it's cap nearby) is that is coming out of the floor inside by the sliding door?

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It does look like a way to have electricity out on that balcony...
 
Very lax then. To me, just the fact that the apartment owner took off, did not dial emergency, or try to seek help from a neighbor should have been their very first clue. If he isn't convicted it will be because of shoddy work.

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" I'll throw you off my balcony" .......girl goes off balcony.......
 
It does look like a way to have electricity out on that balcony...
You would think in a luxury high-rise they would have outlets on balcony. Thank you for the answer.

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Agree with barcode that it looks like a connection to the tanning bed; I know an electrician and will ask his opinion tomorrow. The white thing beside it would be one of Gabe's pet rocks.
Thanks for the answer. I'm surprised there aren't outlets outside. He would have to leave door open. Strange. Thanks again
Not sure but my guess would be to plug in the sun bed?


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He's got skinny legs the poor dude. Half man at best.

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On one of my googling expeditions I found out the meaning of 'miscer' - it's a term used on the bodybuilding.com forums. A 'miscer' is someone who posts on their 'miscellaneous' board rather than on the bodybuilding boards ... that person might be interested in health and fitness, work out regularly and ask some questions about supps and workouts but they're not a bodybuilder.

They called Tostee a miscer (which autocorrects to miscreant haha). As I said earlier in the 110kg post, he's no bodybuilder. I remember reading that he was at 18% body fat but that's only 'satisfactory' on the charts for men. Certainly nothing to boast about (10-14% is 'good' for men, 20-25% is 'poor, improvement needed'. Men need to be at 3-6% body fat for competitions).
 
It's been mentioned many times that Warriena tried to hit Tostee with the metal clamp from the telescope. The metal clamp is to hold the telescope onto a tripod? What hasn't been mentioned is the actual tripod. The screwing or unscrewing sounds heard on the tape may well have been Tostee removing the collapsible tripod and that looks a lot like what he had in his hand as he exited the elevator and proceeded to dump it. Why would he dump the tripod?

Anyway, about the telescope bracket. It is the piece that connects the spotting telescope to the tripod legs. Where were the legs? Why a telescope, a bracket, and no legs.

Could it be the folded up tripod legs in his hand? I think that could be likely. Looks about the right length and width for that. And if it was, why did he need to remove them from the apartment?


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Simple answer; biological material belonging to Warriena was on it. Potentially incriminating evidence if the matter came to court.

Didn't he 'forget' something and have to go back to his apartment?

Could he have somehow received legal advice; maybe whilst riding in the lift or stopped for a time on another floor?

Everything he did after leaving his apartment, going out through the basement of the building and when speaking to his father, seemed somehow 'scripted'. I wonder if he also thought he might get away with an alibi of 'I wasn't there when she fell because I went to get pizza.' Someone was his enabler and either cleaned up his mess or had it cleaned up; as usual.

In my darkest moments I think the recording was almost a 'snuff' tape. I strongly suspect there was more evidence concealed somewhere in the apartment building; video in particular. The alleged tampering with evidence, ie; telescope and bracket, requires an internal police investigation. In fact, this whole case should be looked at by Qld's CCC IMO.

Revenge against the woman who allegedly stole from him was the motive for Warriena's humiliation and intimidation. I think this crime against Warriena was almost premeditated. He wanted to punish a woman and have them submit to him. Only trouble was Warriena, despite her diminutive physique, wasn't going down without a fight.

Possible trigger words for him were that I heard her say twice that she was 'going to call the police' and calling him a '***got' (click here for definition) which is a slur both online and IRL. I think I also heard him say 'Where's my money?'. I sometimes think he wasn't seeing Warriena in those final minutes but all of the 'women who had ****ed him over' and he'd lamented about over and over again on the bb misc forum.

This young man needs comprehensive psychological and neurological diagnostic assessments and lengthy and effective treatment for mental illness and for his alcoholism which is in reality simply self medication, lest we see him back on trial for causing another vulnerable human being's death. If I was his parent, that's where my money would be spent. I would be too frightened for his safety (and my own!) not to - lest I became the target of his aggression in the future.
 
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