Australia - Warriena Wright, 26, dies in balcony fall, Surfers Paradise, Aug 2014 #9

[Oddsocks]

The operative word being "feel" like you are being talked down to. You are not being talked down to.

I teach self defence. By asking how the restraint works in reality during an unplanned conflict, I'm asking you to put yourself into the reality if the situation, and possibly come to the realization yourself that it is not as easy as saying he could have easily restrained her.

It is discussion through participation. It is healthy debate, and an exchange of ideas and experiences.

I understand that women are strong, and he obviously felt the need to restrain her.
What I don't get is he is very obviously in control, verbally and physically.
We don't actually know what happened that night.
Why did he withhold her belongings, not let her go to the toilet or put her out the front door?
I think he should be found guilty of manslaughter.
I think the jury will find him not guilty.

 

[LolaAngelina]

For all,we know, after he closed the door, he was heading for his phone to call the police to have her escorted out peacefully.

I can guarantee you, whatever he was going to do the seconds before he realized she fell, changed in the few seconds after he realized she fell.

I can also guarantee he realized the optics, and how no matter what he did, he was now in for a hell of a legal, and personal mess. I can imagine the sudden, and intense weight of what he was now in, and could not turn back and change.

Have you ever seen the reaction of people to someone falling to their death? Some people don't flinch. Some people throw up. Some people need to lay down. Some people don't come out of the shock until later and finally feel something.

Chances are he had some Hail Mary hope that she would survive, and didn't want to deal with the reality. Chances are, he spent a lot of that time feeling sorry for himself and trying to figure out what to do. He could have been ditching something incriminating for all we know.

He also didn't go on the lam a la O.J. As far as I know, he didn't deny he was there, or make everyone jump through hoops with different stories. He was some goofball, on a dating site, drinking and getting laid, when suddenly, he's up to his armpits in real life and a possible murder charge.

I suspect there are a few different reactions that seem odd, but aren't evidence of criminal intent.

You can't "guarantee" what he was thinking. Yes everything else is correct, all he thought about was himself and how her death would impact him. No thought to the person who had just died. I think its a safe assumption that if someone falls from that height they would die. He didn't KNOW that though, yet he didn't call an ambulance? He didn't rush downstairs to see if she was okay?

 

[guruagain]

And I'm stating this.

There were 2 doors. The main door and balcony door.

Now if you are throwing someone out of your house.

Wouldn't you throw them out the main door and not the balcony.

Three doors if you include the bedroom just to the left of the balcony, sliding doors
in case you have trouble opening them whilst restraining a small drunk girl.

 

[CleverKnot]

And I'm stating this.

There were 2 doors. The main door and balcony door.

Now if you are throwing someone out of your house.

Wouldn't you throw them out the main door and not the balcony.

Likely, the choice was made based mostly on proximity. 2 steps vs. 20. 2 steps likely wins.

 

[CleverKnot]

With respect, telling someone that what they are feeling is incorrect, or telling someone you know better and if they just 'put themselves into the reality of the situation' they will have a different view, or telling them what debate is... That is exactly what being talked down to is.

Perspective.

Are you not doing the very same thing to me, by telling me I'm not allowed to feel like I do, or asking me to see things from a different perspective, namely yours?

You just did the very same thing. The difference being, I am open to doing just that, and expressing my thoughts.

 

[Coldpizza]

Please continue here and leave the snark at the door.

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