Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sep 2014 - #68

[FromGermany1]

If William did die, and he died as a result of an accident, I believe he died a lot earlier in time than he was alleged to have disappeared. It pains me to think about him and the likelihood he has passed. But from an objective point of view if an accident was a working theory, I cant imagine someone that loved William as it appears they truly did, could just think so quickly to hide his body, what’s more that ‘she’ (as the person of interest) could do that within the time that her husband was away for a VC. Thats just ludicrous IMO

I believe, he was rather given away than had a fatal accident or something like that. Therefore the FM was able to keep her contenance so very well, whereas FD cried during his hectic searches for little W. MOO

 

[FromGermany1]

off topic but may be of interest for those who followed khandalyce pearce body in suitcase case...
Crime Investigation Australia: Baby In The Suitcase (S4EP3 Channel 7 Sunday 13 March 2022) 8.30 pm

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On 28 October 2015, 41-year-old Daniel James Holdom was arrested in Cessnock, New South Wales. He was later charged with the murder of Pearce-Stevenson.

DH was still free, when little William disappeared. Hopefully this monster didn't get him on detours!

 

[Serenanicole]

I believe, he was rather given away than had a fatal accident or something like that. Therefore the FM was able to keep her contenance so very well, whereas FD cried during his hectic searches for little W. MOO

FromGermany who would she give William to and why? What would the motive be in your theory? Do you think that William is still alive?

 

[Travelling Wilbury]

Has there been any information to say the details of the FMFC court case next week will be suppressed?

 

[iiiii's]

I'm just going to let this fall where it lands. I looked at some inquest notes I had and saw that I had noted that the FFC said she turned left onto Batar Creek Rd, when driving to look for WT and went as far as the riding school and then turned and came back. That would be heading in the direction of Kendall showground.

My hope was that during the search, that wherever the FFC said she drove to, that they would dig in the opposite direction. They may have searched in the opposite direction. Also, if she searched in her car near the showground, then both FP's were away from the property and possibly closer in distance to each other, just after WT went missing. Besides that riding school, weren't there different POI's who lived in caravans, etc. at the showground?

 

[Blues Clues]

I'm just going to let this fall where it lands. I looked at some inquest notes I had and saw that I had noted that the FFC said she turned left onto Batar Creek Rd, when driving to look for WT and went as far as the riding school and then turned and came back. That would be heading in the direction of Kendall showground.

My hope was that during the search, that wherever the FFC said she drove to, that they would dig in the opposite direction. They may have searched in the opposite direction. Also, if she searched in her car near the showground, then both FP's were away from the property and possibly closer in distance to each other, just after WT went missing. Besides that riding school, weren't there different POI's who lived in caravans, etc. at the showground?

BBM

Just wondering why you have nominated the showground?

 

[iiiii's]

BBM

Just wondering why you have nominated the showground?

Cause it's approx. the same distance from Benaroon Dr. in the opposite direction and the riding school relocated to the showground sometime after WT disappeared. Why do we think it's the disabled riding school, was it always reported as such? I just accepted it was.....?Could it be another riding school like the CHPC at the Kendall showground?

 

[Blues Clues]

Cause it's approx. the same distance from Benaroon Dr. in the opposite direction and the riding school relocated to the showground sometime after WT disappeared. Why do we think it's the disabled riding school, was it always reported as such? I just accepted it was.....?Could it be another riding school like the CHPC at the Kendall showground?

Riding For The Disabled moved to the showground circa 2016

"The popular centre has been sited at the Kendall Showground facilities for the last four years"

Riding for the Disabled Kendall on look out for a new home | Port Macquarie News | Port Macquarie, NSW (portnews.com.au)

 

[iiiii's]

Riding For The Disabled moved to the showground circa 2016

"The popular centre has been sited at the Kendall Showground facilities for the last four years"

Riding for the Disabled Kendall on look out for a new home | Port Macquarie News | Port Macquarie, NSW (portnews.com.au)

Yes. But there are other riding schools in the area, including the showground. My question was, who and when was it reported that it was the disabled riding school that the FFC drove to? I just don't recall where that information came from. MOO

 

[Blues Clues]

Yes. But there are other riding schools in the area, including the showground. My question was, who and when was it reported that it was the disabled riding school that the FFC drove to? I just don't recall where that information came from. MOO

Imo she would have said she drove to the showground if that's what she did.

The Riding for the Disabled school is very well known in the district and is quite distinct from the Pony Club.

The Camden Haven Pony Club is at the showground but looking at the picture I've attached.... the large area closest to Batar Creek Rd is the football field. The area to the right/east is the horse, cattle etc arena. I don't think if you drove along Batar Creek Road past the showground the Pony Club would be the first thing you would think of. IMO

ETA this snip shows the entrance to the showground. There is no signage mentioning the Pony Club

 

[Blues Clues]

Sorry the snip wouldn't attach in the edit.... I've had to put it in a new post

 

[Blues Clues]

Entrance to Kendall Showground

 

[sleepinoz]

I'm just going to let this fall where it lands. I looked at some inquest notes I had and saw that I had noted that the FFC said she turned left onto Batar Creek Rd, when driving to look for WT and went as far as the riding school and then turned and came back. That would be heading in the direction of Kendall showground.

My hope was that during the search, that wherever the FFC said she drove to, that they would dig in the opposite direction. They may have searched in the opposite direction. Also, if she searched in her car near the showground, then both FP's were away from the property and possibly closer in distance to each other, just after WT went missing. Besides that riding school, weren't there different POI's who lived in caravans, etc. at the showground?

BBM: Do you remember where your note came from? It would be interesting to know how you came about the 'left' turn, and how reliable it was.

 

[iiiii's]

Yes, when listening to the FFC's evidence at the inquest, she said it, and I noted it. I was looking for any specific information, directions, times because all MSM reporting to that date had left too much ambiguity about the events that morning. I'm quite open to the idea, she might get muddled to her left from her right, but that is what she said.

 

[FromGermany1]

FromGermany who would she give William to and why? What would the motive be in your theory? Do you think that William is still alive?

Motive, I think: FM felt completely overwhelmed with raising the little boy. If she had said the truth, her husband (who was William's loving dad, afaik) might have turned away from her, and that she feared. So, maybe FGM had an idea for help and wanted to manage the disappearing of the "little devil". FGM knew a lot of men in her area, who were married men with partners and families, but also partly involved in pedo affairs. I believe, FGM asked one of these men for help. She couldn't have asked a woman.

FM must not necessarily have known details of the disappearing, but was grateful for her mother's help perhaps. I can imagine, FM had to be there in Kendall at Benaroon Drive for a certain time (suddenly on early Friday morning), William had to be dressed with something red from shoulder to feet and had to play outside - maybe FM didn't know any more (or she did). FGM had the plan and was leading from behind. She didn't love him very much, I believe, and she didn't care, what would happen to him later.

Alive or not: Idk, if little W is alive or not. Might be, he is. Hopefully he is not alive for being the "toy" of any man.
All IMO and MOO

 

[Warshawski]

As well, I think a huge disadvantage in William's case was the patchy mobile reception in 2014. Meaning that a tower dump was likely unable to show every mobile phone in the area at the time.

I would also suggest that all the ‘secrecy’ quite possibly hampered public alerts & information that may have brought in significant reports much earlier in the investigation

 

[JBowie]

I would also suggest that all the ‘secrecy’ quite possibly hampered public alerts & information that may have brought in significant reports much earlier in the investigation

I agree. As I've said before, the fact that the foster parent names and photographs have been suppressed eliminates the possibility (say) of a member of the public coming forward as (say) an eye witness to physical abuse of the kids, if that had have (hypothetically) occurred -- and I'm not suggesting that it did -- just making a point about a possible consequence of suppression of identities of carers in such cases.

 

[Limaes]

If NSW Police escape criticism in the Corner's final report about how they went about their investigations, then I -- for one -- will be quite surprised.

Me too!

 

[Limaes]

I'm just going to let this fall where it lands. I looked at some inquest notes I had and saw that I had noted that the FFC said she turned left onto Batar Creek Rd, when driving to look for WT and went as far as the riding school and then turned and came back. That would be heading in the direction of Kendall showground.

My hope was that during the search, that wherever the FFC said she drove to, that they would dig in the opposite direction. They may have searched in the opposite direction. Also, if she searched in her car near the showground, then both FP's were away from the property and possibly closer in distance to each other, just after WT went missing. Besides that riding school, weren't there different POI's who lived in caravans, etc. at the showground?

She went left when she was on foot. Remember she alleges to have heard a scream from a child and made a small attempt to search that bush area?

JMO

 

[iiiii's]

She went left when she was on foot. Remember she alleges to have heard a scream from a child and made a small attempt to search that bush area?

JMO

This note description was in relation to when she drove down to Batar Creek road, looking for WT. She was looking in the reeds behind the bus stop after the drive. IMO