Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #24

[SouthAussie]

I think it was the FM (not the FGM) who phoned BS number and left a message on Fri morning.

There was a missed call prior to that. And Spedding had deleted his call log.

Too many threads for me to go back and find the links right now, but it is somewhere near the beginning.

 

[koios]

"there's a big grass ... grassy clump of grass and I thought he's playing in that and I raced down there and I raced back up again"
Source 2GB interview. I have been through videos of the garden but I can't find this "grassy clump of grass". Does anyone know where it is?

 

[sosocurious]

There was a missed call prior to that. And Spedding had deleted his call log.

Too many threads for me to go back and find the links right now, but it is somewhere near the beginning.

Yes he must have deleted the phone log while sitting up and watching the news on television and commenting to his relative "Hey I think I have been to that house"
I rang them. They rang me and maybe I rang back again in the afternoon. hone:

So tell me all about the school assembly ..
imo

 

[SouthAussie]

I found a link to this ^^^. Also, I believe he called back later in the arvo and William's mum told him it wasn't convenient.


"Mr Spedding, 63, had been due to fix the washing machine at the grandmother’s house that day but never arrived. He has told police that he had a missed call from the grandmother and could not contact her back."

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...e/news-story/73350ebd1be700109fa5a5eb5bb06d0c

 

[sosocurious]

"there's a big grass ... grassy clump of grass and I thought he's playing in that and I raced down there and I raced back up again"
Source 2GB interview. I have been through videos of the garden but I can't find this "grassy clump of grass". Does anyone know where it is?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-02/house-where-3yo-william-tyrell-went-missing-at-kendall/6274932

There is what I would consider a clump of grass in this picture of the yard koios.

 

[koios]

In the 2GB interview the FM mentions some places she considered in the first moments when she could not find WT.
In addition to the "big ... grassy clump of grass", there is also this: "... has he decided to go under the house? ..."

 

[koios]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-02/house-where-3yo-william-tyrell-went-missing-at-kendall/6274932

There is what I would consider a clump of grass in this picture of the yard koios.

Thanks soso do you mean this clump?

 

[koios]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-02/house-where-3yo-william-tyrell-went-missing-at-kendall/6274932

There is what I would consider a clump of grass in this picture of the yard koios.

Thanks soso do you mean this clump?

 

[koios]

The link for the 2GB radio interview is http://www.2gb.com/article/chris-smith-talks-william-tyrrell’s-parents
I found two possible "big grassy clump of grass" near the celerywood tree in this photo (streetview 2010).

(Added: and found 3 more clumps near the south east corner of the lot - can post photo if anyone wants)

 

[krig101]

Great theory, White Lion. Welcome!

This theory covers a lot of our questions. And I have never thought about the perspective that the police are only talking about the family that they always talk about (sort of as if the other family does not exist, because they can't talk about them).

I guess my only question would be, how did this person know that William would be at his grandmother's house? And a day early. That is the part that always stumps me.

The timing of William's arrival/abduction has always baffled me too. BS having connections to William's bio family probably relayed the info that he would be at the house that day. He went there early unannounced (maybe planning a snatch or maybe not) and the opportunity presented itself. Remember, BS wiped his call records from his phone that morning. Did he make a call saying, hey, guess who I see, do you want me to get them? Or there could have been a much sinister plan....I wonder


JMO

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[Karinna]

I think it was the FM (not the FGM) who phoned BS number and left a message on Fri morning.

From what i have understood BS was told not to come by the house for the repair, and as far as i'm aware BS's van would of been very obvious in that isolated area/street. Wasn't he supposedly somewhere else when WT went missing doing another repair? I'm sure the police would of checked that out wouldn't they as to where he did that repair and for whom?

 

[Karinna]

The timing of William's arrival/abduction has always baffled me too. BS having connections to William's bio family probably relayed the info that he would be at the house that day. He went there early unannounced (maybe planning a snatch or maybe not) and the opportunity presented itself. Remember, BS wiped his call records from his phone that morning. Did he make a call saying, hey, guess who I see, do you want me to get them? Or there could have been a much sinister plan....I wonder


JMO

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Is it a fact that BS has connection to WT's bio family, i don't recall reading anything about that in MSM?

 

[Makara]

Is it a fact that BS has connection to WT's bio family, i don't recall reading anything about that in MSM?

No it's not a fact that BS personally has connections to William's bio family.

 

[Makara]

From what i have understood BS was told not to come by the house for the repair, and as far as i'm aware BS's van would of been very obvious in that isolated area/street. Wasn't he supposedly somewhere else when WT went missing doing another repair? I'm sure the police would of checked that out wouldn't they as to where he did that repair and for whom?

Karinna I agree that BS's van would have been very obvious in the street that morning. If BS was intent on abducting William (or his sister), IMO he would not have used his own sign written van to do so. He may well be behind the abduction (we don't know what the police know) but I seriously doubt if this was a planned abduction BS would have used his own van to do so.

 

[koios]

From what i have understood BS was told not to come by the house for the repair, and as far as i'm aware BS's van would of been very obvious in that isolated area/street. Wasn't he supposedly somewhere else when WT went missing doing another repair? I'm sure the police would of checked that out wouldn't they as to where he did that repair and for whom?

Yes if his van had been there it would have been very obvious. I think the whole washing machine repair thing, while obviously very important to check out, may be irrelevant.

 

[Bohemian]

Regarding the relevance of the cars to to Strike Force Rosann's investigations into William's disappearance:

Where is William: 60 Minutes
September 6, 2015
Reporter: Michael Usher
Producer: Laura Sparkes, Grace Tobin

Part 3 of 3
Published by on youtube by Richie (richieswan)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Y6M4ZwCV73aIu6Fgs-L_Q?app=desktop

Transcript (starting at 1' 25"):

Mike Usher (MU):

Then there's the information that, for the first time tonight, is being made public by police.

William's mother also saw two cars earlier that morning, parked strangely between two driveways. The specific makes and models of the cars are not known.

DCI Gary Jubelin (GJ):

Oh we've got the general description of the two vehicles; one's a white station wagon, the other's an older-style greyish-coloured sedan but, what makes us suspicious of these particular vehicles, is they weren't parked in a driveway; they were parked between driveways so we're talking about on one-acre lots. The driveways are about one hundred metres apart.

MU:

Suspicious because, in that neighbourhood even if you're visiting a relative, or doing some business there, you park in the driveway or on the land? The lots are that big.

GJ:

Yes. There's no logical explanation as to why they would park in the location they were, and they were very close to each other. Given that it's a dead-end street; that raises our curiosity.

We're interested in finding out who these people are, and what they were doing there; at the time.


Image Supplied: NSW Police Force

 

[Karinna]

Karinna I agree that BS's van would have been very obvious in the street that morning. If BS was intent on abducting William (or his sister), IMO he would not have used his own sign written van to do so. He may well be behind the abduction (we don't know what the police know) but I seriously doubt if this was a planned abduction BS would have used his own van to do so.

I agree Makara, it would of been too obvious for sure. As far as him being behind the abduction, i have no idea. I don't think he has ever been convicted of being a paedophile or in a paedophile ring? He has historical charges against him for what he allegedly did 30 years ago, and until the outcome of that court case, who knows?

 

[Bohemian]

Regarding the relevance of the cars to to Strike Force Rosann's investigations into William's disappearance:

Where is William: 60 Minutes
September 6, 2015
Reporter: Michael Usher
Producer: Laura Sparkes, Grace Tobin

Part 3 of 3
Published by on youtube by Richie (richieswan)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Y6M4ZwCV73aIu6Fgs-L_Q?app=desktop

Transcript (starting at 1' 25"):

Mike Usher (MU):

Then there's the information that, for the first time tonight, is being made public by police.

William's mother also saw two cars earlier that morning, parked strangely between two driveways. The specific makes and models of the cars are not known.

DCI Gary Jubelin (GJ):

Oh we've got the general description of the two vehicles; one's a white station wagon, the other's an older-style greyish-coloured sedan but, what makes us suspicious of these particular vehicles, is they weren't parked in a driveway; they were parked between driveways so we're talking about on one-acre lots. The driveways are about one hundred metres apart.

MU:

Suspicious because, in that neighbourhood even if you're visiting a relative, or doing some business there, you park in the driveway or on the land? The lots are that big.

GJ:

Yes. There's no logical explanation as to why they would park in the location they were, and they were very close to each other. Given that it's a dead-end street; that raises our curiosity.

We're interested in finding out who these people are, and what they were doing there; at the time.

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Image Supplied: NSW Police Force

Oops, forgot to thank richieswan for uploading the 60 Minutes's video, among many others, to youtube. Thanks Richie!

 

[koios]

In the police photo/sketch the cars appear to be in front of two properties. One of those properties has a wooden gate across its main drive which would if closed prevent visitors parking on its main drive.
And a seperate point - bearbear has pointed out that at a property downhill from those, in a sixmaps image (dated Dec 2012 so may or may not be applicable 21 months later) there were cars approximately of those descriptions.

 

[Bohemian]

In the police photo/sketch the cars appear to be in front of two properties. One of those properties has a wooden gate across its main drive which would if closed prevent visitors parking on its main drive.
And a seperate point - bearbear has pointed out that at the next property downhill from those, in a sixmaps image (dated Dec 2012 so may or may not be applicable 21 months later) there were cars approximately of those descriptions.

That may be so, koios, but it doesn't change the fact that DCI Jubelin flagged the cars and their occupants as 'of interest' (ie; relevant) to the Strike Force's investigations into William's disappearance.

A year is plenty of time for investigators to determine if the cars belonged to neighbours or benign visitors to Benaroon Drive at the time in question. In my opinion, they were neither neighbours' nor benign visitors' cars. If it's good enough for DCI Jubelin to voice his suspicions about those cars, I believe they have at least some relevance to William's disappearance.

Also, I don't think it was a tactical manoeuvre to place the cars at the location on Benaroon Drive, rather a strategic one to release the information about them at the time.

(snipped)

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Y6M4ZwCV73aIu6Fgs-L_Q?app=desktop

Transcript (starting at 1' 25"):

Mike Usher (MU):

Then there's the information that, for the first time tonight, is being made public by police.

William's mother also saw two cars earlier that morning, parked strangely between two driveways. The specific makes and models of the cars are not known.

DCI Gary Jubelin (GJ):

Oh we've got the general description of the two vehicles; one's a white station wagon, the other's an older-style greyish-coloured sedan but, what makes us suspicious of these particular vehicles, is they weren't parked in a driveway; they were parked between driveways so we're talking about on one-acre lots. The driveways are about one hundred metres apart.

MU:

Suspicious because, in that neighbourhood even if you're visiting a relative, or doing some business there, you park in the driveway or on the land? The lots are that big.

GJ:

Yes. There's no logical explanation as to why they would park in the location they were, and they were very close to each other. Given that it's a dead-end street; that raises our curiosity.

We're interested in finding out who these people are, and what they were doing there; at the time.

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