Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #37

[papertrail]

If an investigation is current/ongoing - then surely there must be some communication with the police, so they don't inadvertently ruin an investigation IMO

I doubt a burnt out wreck story neither the rehash of Katrina blah blah blahing would be classified as 'interferring'. Her interview contained zilch.

I think it highly likely she initially reported to police then tried out ACA as a money grabber. Leaching.

Did someone say ages ago Loweke was connected to Jones. Is she connected to Katrina?

 

[Violet77]

I know a worker who 'borrowed' a piece of their town council's heavy equipment - on a Sunday - to drag a mate's deeply bogged 4-wheel drive out of a *dry* creek bed, in a country town. No adverse repercussions for doing that.

I guess that if Jones did, in fact, borrow a chain saw to get access to some scrap metal, and then went and sold the scrap metal to a dealer that morning, then went and got drunk at the pub .. before returning home .. he may have a cleared alibi for that morning. With enough witnesses being able to confirm him being at several places.
Which may mean that he 'once was a person of interest in the disappearance' of William, which we noted fairly recently in an MSM article.

Though, I wonder what time the pubs open in that area. I believe it was said that he arrived home at around noon that day?

BBM - Yes, that wording was very interesting, although I believe he must still be on that list of POI's.

 

[Karinna]

Widow doesn’t want husband used as William Tyrrell alibi
A widow has said she does not want her late husband used as an alibi by a person of interest in the William Tyrrell case.


As reported on A Current Affair last night, Tony Jones, who lived 20 minutes from the Kendall home William disappeared from in 2014, offered his first public alibi.

Mr Jones, who remains a person of interest in the case but has not been charged, said he was helping a neighbour install a hot water system at his house the day the then-three-year-old vanished.
The neighbour has since died, but his widow told A Current Affair that Mr Jones did install a hot water system at their house, at least four months before William's suspected abduction.
Widow doesn’t want husband used as William Tyrrell alibi

 

[sleepinoz]

Widow doesn’t want husband used as William Tyrrell alibi
A widow has said she does not want her late husband used as an alibi by a person of interest in the William Tyrrell case.


As reported on A Current Affair last night, Tony Jones, who lived 20 minutes from the Kendall home William disappeared from in 2014, offered his first public alibi.

Mr Jones, who remains a person of interest in the case but has not been charged, said he was helping a neighbour install a hot water system at his house the day the then-three-year-old vanished.
The neighbour has since died, but his widow told A Current Affair that Mr Jones did install a hot water system at their house, at least four months before William's suspected abduction.
Widow doesn’t want husband used as William Tyrrell alibi

Did he need a chainsaw to do that?

 

[Karinna]

BBM - Yes, that wording was very interesting, although I believe he must still be on that list of POI's.

I agree and haven't seen him cleared publicly by LE yet.
We know AJ & PB are convicted child molesters, and BS alleged in historical CSA, but has no conviction for that to date. And he had no previous criminal record either, unlike AJ who has.

 

[Karinna]

Did he need a chainsaw to do that?

I doubt it.

 

[Karinna]

IMO the car burned out in the bush and the chainsaw AJ purported to have had doing whatever he was doing with it, if his story is even true?, are just nothingburgers like so much else in this case.

 

[sleepinoz]

IMO the car burned out in the bush and the chainsaw AJ purported to have had doing whatever he was doing with it, if his story is even true?, are just nothingburgers like so much else in this case.

BBM - Sorry I don't understand?

ETA - I don't believe much that was said in this story.

 

[SouthAussie]

BBM - Yes, that wording was very interesting, although I believe he must still be on that list of POI's.

Yes, he may very well be.

I just struggle to see him as the perpetrator of this crime. He is so highly volatile, has been arrested and convicted so many times. How on earth would he stand up to police pressure, not leave clues, not blab or explode about what he had done ... to someone?

I guess we will find out when the inquest commences.

 

[Violet77]

Yes, he may very well be.

I just struggle to see him as the perpetrator of this crime. He is so highly volatile, has been arrested and convicted so many times. How on earth would he stand up to police pressure, not leave clues, not blab or explode about what he had done ... to someone?

I guess we will find out when the inquest commences.

When I think about scenarios like this, it reminds me that Cowan got away with his crimes against Daniel for a number of years, although TJ seems to be more of a loose cannon than Cowan, it’s still possible IMO that someone like him could conceal a crime like that for all this time. Cowan seemed like the type to cave under police pressure too.
I really hope TJ isn’t responsible. I believe poor William didn’t live to see the end of that day, but it haunts me that much more to think of the violence he would have experienced at the hands of TJ.

 

[papertrail]

I know a worker who 'borrowed' a piece of their town council's heavy equipment - on a Sunday - to drag a mate's deeply bogged 4-wheel drive out of a *dry* creek bed, in a country town. No adverse repercussions for doing that.

I guess that if Jones did, in fact, borrow a chain saw to get access to some scrap metal, and then went and sold the scrap metal to a dealer that morning, then went and got drunk at the pub .. before returning home .. he may have a cleared alibi for that morning. With enough witnesses being able to confirm him being at several places.
Which may mean that he 'once was a person of interest in the disappearance' of William, which we noted fairly recently in an MSM article.

Though, I wonder what time the pubs open in that area. I believe it was said that he arrived home at around noon that day?

I agree and haven't seen him cleared publicly by LE yet.
We know AJ & PB are convicted child molesters, and BS alleged in historical CSA, but has no conviction for that to date. And he had no previous criminal record either, unlike AJ who has.

Law enforcement under no circumstances will declare a person of interest no longer a person of interest.

Law enforcement at no time have in fact declared anyone a person of interest.

Its all media beat up and media who have declared persons of interest.

When police charge a person or persons they declare that the person a suspect as they are suspected of committing the crime subject to the charge.

It is a Court process that can then declare charged persons not guilty of the charge. Or if police or DPP withdraw charges it is then declared charges withdrawn.

 

[papertrail]

Yes, he may very well be.

I just struggle to see him as the perpetrator of this crime. He is so highly volatile, has been arrested and convicted so many times. How on earth would he stand up to police pressure, not leave clues, not blab or explode about what he had done ... to someone?

I guess we will find out when the inquest commences.

The inquest will not declare anyone guilty of a crime. To do so would be flagrant disregard to lawful process.

What a coronial inquest can do and will do under due process is to put people under oath by force if necessary. Anyone that is found to have not told the truth under oath is liable to be charged with perjury or contempt of court with a possible jail sentence.

An inquest takes away the rock and hard place police investigators have to deal with because no one can be forced to say a word under interrogation or questioning with police. You are only lawfully required to advise your name after that silence if you wish.

Once someone is under oath at inquest the rock and hard place becomes sludgy quicksand.

 

[iailwa]

Law enforcement under no circumstances will declare a person of interest no longer a person of interest.

Law enforcement at no time have in fact declared anyone a person of interest.

Its all media beat up and media who have declared persons of interest.

When police charge a person or persons they declare that the person a suspect as they are suspected of committing the crime subject to the charge.

It is a Court process that can then declare charged persons not guilty of the charge. Or if police or DPP withdraw charges it is then declared charges withdrawn.

Could you please put, after your posts, that this is your opinion, because otherwise you sound like you think you know everything & you are trying to control & correct everyone, all the time, but it's just your opinion... it's quite eye roll worthy and very annoying.

 

[Blues Clues]

When I think about what type of person could be the culprit, my thoughts often come back to a person who is not of sound mind. I wonder if SFR went to Port Macq Base Hospital - Mental Health Unit and scrutinised their patient list. Would they have the power to do that?

 

[frogwell]

The rusted upside down car appears to have 2 exhaust pipes, something a younger person owns with a big engine. Any car experts here?

 

[Cagney&Lacey]

I don’t know if this is a spin off of ACA segment but it says investigators say...

INVESTIGATORS say a burnt-out car abandoned deep in the bush near where William Tyrrell went missing could be a breakthrough in the case of the missing NSW boy.
It is believed the vehicle belonged to Tony Jones, a convicted paedophilewho was at one point a person of interest in the little boy's disappearance, Nine's A Current Affair reports.
Burnt-out car linked to William Tyrrell mystery

Apologies If this has been posted.

Just a thought that perhaps as LE were aware of the car and had already noted any evidence or lack there of, they left it insitu and monitored activity in the area. Perhaps TJ did recently return to the car and that was the reason for the recent search in the area by police.

 

[frogwell]

https://www.9now.com.au/a-current-a...wfbf8z1p/17c0fae3-ef48-4307-87ca-f2b6883b9759

*ACA says BS's NSW and Victorian charges were dropped. If that is the case, why is it not being covered generally in the media? (GJ is suspiciosly absent around the Bowraville outcome, 4th anniversary of WT's disappearance)
*The neighbor may dispute the hot water system, but how does the neighbor know that TJ was referring specifically to her husband and not a different hot water system with a different neighbor. (unlikely I know)
*If TJ used to burn out cars, it could be that he was doing crime using those vehichles, or he does insurance jobs for people. Otherwise he would be using the cars for scrap to sell.

 

[papertrail]

Could you please put, after your posts, that this is your opinion, because otherwise you sound like you think you know everything & you are trying to control & correct everyone, all the time, but it's just your opinion... it's quite eye roll worthy and very annoying.

I am not trying to control or correct anyone. Just putting information that is valid.

I will only include 'imo' when I think it necessary and ONLY when I deem it necessary. Thankyou.

 

[papertrail]

https://www.9now.com.au/a-current-a...wfbf8z1p/17c0fae3-ef48-4307-87ca-f2b6883b9759

*ACA says BS's NSW and Victorian charges were dropped. If that is the case, why is it not being covered generally in the media? (GJ is suspiciosly absent around the Bowraville outcome, 4th anniversary of WT's disappearance)
*The neighbor may dispute the hot water system, but how does the neighbor know that TJ was referring specifically to her husband and not a different hot water system with a different neighbor. (unlikely I know)
*If TJ used to burn out cars, it could be that he was doing crime using those vehichles, or he does insurance jobs for people. Otherwise he would be using the cars for scrap to sell.

Maybe recycling stolen vehicles for others for payment when they have taken what they require. therefore cannot put thru vehicle scrap facility. no VIN no scrap facility will accept.

Is TJ still based in Wauchope. His FB has a reference to Kelso. Appears to be quite lovesick for a special woman too.

 

[Karinna]

Law enforcement under no circumstances will declare a person of interest no longer a person of interest.

Law enforcement at no time have in fact declared anyone a person of interest.

Its all media beat up and media who have declared persons of interest.

When police charge a person or persons they declare that the person a suspect as they are suspected of committing the crime subject to the charge.

It is a Court process that can then declare charged persons not guilty of the charge. Or if police or DPP withdraw charges it is then declared charges withdrawn.

BBM, I thought that GJ has declared BS a POI and TJ & PB as well in their investigation? But i agree they don't to my knowledge declare publicly when someone is no longer a POI.
(quote)
BILL Spedding, a man police say has been a person of interest in the William Tyrrell inquiry,
Tyrrell ‘person of interest’ to appear in court