Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #52

[mussopossum]

If you want to read the complete article, it is posted in full in a couple of Williams groups on FB. You may need to join though.

Oh my goodness,
I wonder who the viagra was to impress.... Not that buying that is a crime, just interesting they felt the need to report it.

Jubelin told the court his suspicions about Mr Savage, a widower, arose from allegedly odd behaviour including a conviction for breaching an apprehended violence order taken out by the local postie, Virginia Toller, his purchase of Viagra three days before William’s disappearance, his strange reaction to seeing a Spider-Man suit Jubelin had deliberately placed on a bush trail, Savage’s theft of a covert police camera and his constant mutterings to himself as he rattled around his house, including phrases like: “You’re just a little boy, you’re nobody. You don’t tell me, I tell you and I did, sweetheart.”

We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph

 

[JWSleuth]

Oh my goodness,
I wonder who the viagra was to impress.... Not that buying that is a crime, just interesting they felt the need to report it.

Jubelin told the court his suspicions about Mr Savage, a widower, arose from allegedly odd behaviour including a conviction for breaching an apprehended violence order taken out by the local postie, Virginia Toller, his purchase of Viagra three days before William’s disappearance, his strange reaction to seeing a Spider-Man suit Jubelin had deliberately placed on a bush trail, Savage’s theft of a covert police camera and his constant mutterings to himself as he rattled around his house, including phrases like: “You’re just a little boy, you’re nobody. You don’t tell me, I tell you and I did, sweetheart.”

We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph

Arose from allegedly odd behaviour
Sorry I’ll try get my mind out the gutter soon but you can’t make this crap up! What the H is going on.

 

[JLZ]

If you want to read the complete article, it is posted in full in a couple of Williams groups on FB. You may need to join though.

I've been chucked out of FB for not being a real person. Have to wait till it's re-reported, maybe by DM.

Maybe PS purchased Viagra online 3 days before and so was waiting for its delivery to prevent its going to his wife? Assuming he had another woman in mind such as caravan lady. Then wife found out and there was a blow-up. Then (sorry about all the maybes for those who hate them) when police asked the street about deliveries, PS didn't admit to the Viagra, and "don't tell them, love . . . they're right after me" pertained to that?

 

[mussopossum]

This week, Savage made a new claim,

Savage: “He was giving me a pretty hard time, how he knew I’d done it and all this sort of rubbish and he finished up saying he’d be back tomorrow to take you in. He was telling me that he was going to arrest me.”

Jubelin’s barrister, Margaret Cunneen, suggested to Mr Savage he had invented this claim. The recording of that conversation, played to the court, ends like this.

Jubelin: Look after yourself, OK?

Savage: I’ll do me best, mate.

Jubelin. Good to see you, Paul.

Savage: I’ll catch you later.

Jubelin: Merry Christmas, Happy New Year.

How do we know?
Because Jubelin recorded the conversation.


BOOM!

We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph

 

[Ms Kite]

Oh my goodness,
I wonder who the viagra was to impress.... Not that buying that is a crime, just interesting they felt the need to report it.

Jubelin told the court his suspicions about Mr Savage, a widower, arose from allegedly odd behaviour including a conviction for breaching an apprehended violence order taken out by the local postie, Virginia Toller, his purchase of Viagra three days before William’s disappearance, his strange reaction to seeing a Spider-Man suit Jubelin had deliberately placed on a bush trail, Savage’s theft of a covert police camera and his constant mutterings to himself as he rattled around his house, including phrases like: “You’re just a little boy, you’re nobody. You don’t tell me, I tell you and I did, sweetheart.”

We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph

I noticed that the "little boy" quote has been extended...

“You’re just a little boy, you’re nobody. You don’t tell me, I tell you and I did, sweetheart.”

Not liking it.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Oh my goodness,
I wonder who the viagra was to impress.... Not that buying that is a crime, just interesting they felt the need to report it.

Jubelin told the court his suspicions about Mr Savage, a widower, arose from allegedly odd behaviour including a conviction for breaching an apprehended violence order taken out by the local postie, Virginia Toller, his purchase of Viagra three days before William’s disappearance, his strange reaction to seeing a Spider-Man suit Jubelin had deliberately placed on a bush trail, Savage’s theft of a covert police camera and his constant mutterings to himself as he rattled around his house, including phrases like: “You’re just a little boy, you’re nobody. You don’t tell me, I tell you and I did, sweetheart.”

We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph

bbm
OMG. And who within LE is thinking, there is nothing relevant for further investigating PS???

 

[JWSleuth]

He seems twisted. Maybe he got his jollies ordering viagra and having the person with an AVO on him, made to deliver it to him.

 

[Chrissy74]

cancel that very sorry... I’m not sure if that is confirmed - it may have been sighted by PS:
Grey Isuzu Ute + canopy

That would tie in with the silver car the fm saw that morning

 

[mussopossum]

I noticed that the "little boy" quote has been extended...

“You’re just a little boy, you’re nobody. You don’t tell me, I tell you and I did, sweetheart.”

Not liking it.

Me either...

 

[Chrissy74]

Caravan lady

I've been chucked out of FB for not being a real person. Have to wait till it's re-reported, maybe by DM.

Maybe PS purchased Viagra online 3 days before and so was waiting for its delivery to prevent its going to his wife? Assuming he had another woman in mind such as caravan lady. Then wife found out and there was a blow-up. Then (sorry about all the maybes for those who hate them) when police asked the street about deliveries, PS didn't admit to the Viagra, and "don't tell them, love . . . they're right after me" pertained to that?[

 

[mussopossum]

He seems twisted. Maybe he got his jollies ordering viagra and having the person with an AVO on him, made to deliver it to him.

Oh god that is sounding like an episode of Criminal Minds lol

But gosh you could be so right there

 

[JLZ]

This week, Savage made a new claim,

Savage: “He was giving me a pretty hard time, how he knew I’d done it and all this sort of rubbish and he finished up saying he’d be back tomorrow to take you in. He was telling me that he was going to arrest me.”

Jubelin’s barrister, Margaret Cunneen, suggested to Mr Savage he had invented this claim. The recording of that conversation, played to the court, ends like this.

Jubelin: Look after yourself, OK?

Savage: I’ll do me best, mate.

Jubelin. Good to see you, Paul.

Savage: I’ll catch you later.

Jubelin: Merry Christmas, Happy New Year.

How do we know?
Because Jubelin recorded the conversation.


BOOM!

We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph

No boom with me. GJ said he made the recordings to cover himself. He could have said those farewell words, switched off the recording, and got some more in before he drove away.

 

[stormyseas]

He seems twisted. Maybe he got his jollies ordering viagra and having the person with an AVO on him, made to deliver it to him.

Or maybe he was delusional.. truly believed that his love for the postie was reciprocated. That would explain his breach of the AVO. So perhaps he ordered the viagra, truly believing he was in luck. But then he’s rejected in some way or William interrupts his fantasy. Maybe this made him angry (we know he has some anger issues)... IMO

 

[JLZ]

Or maybe he was delusional.. truly believed that his love for the postie was reciprocated. That would explain his breach of the AVO. So perhaps he ordered the viagra, truly believing he was in luck. But then he’s rejected in some way or William interrupts his fantasy. Maybe this made him angry (we know he has some anger issues)... IMO

BBM, I don't know about that. Suppose you believed someone reciprocated your love, and you weren't delusional, you were right. But the person wanted nothing to do with you and told you so. Would you be justified in imposing yourself on her? Presumably not. So I'm thinking delusionality wouldn't really explain/excuse PS's pursuit.

 

[JWSleuth]

Caravan lady

I wasn’t going to go there but...

Does Lyn actually exist though? Or is she imaginary?

 

[JWSleuth]

Oh god that is sounding like an episode of Criminal Minds lol

But gosh you could be so right there

sorry.... too much true crime

 

[kiwi50]

Don’t forget we may have an even stranger POI called back at the inquest, chicken man... I find him stranger than PS.

 

[stormyseas]

BBM, I don't know about that. Suppose you believed someone reciprocated your love, and you weren't delusional, you were right. But the person wanted nothing to do with you and told you so. Would you be justified in imposing yourself on her? Presumably not. So I'm thinking delusionality wouldn't really explain/excuse PS's pursuit.

BBM But I’m suggesting he may have been delusional. If so, it may explain his behaviour. I’m certainly not suggesting it would excuse his behaviour, although in a criminal court (in the event of criminal behaviour) a judge would consider fitness to plead. IMO

 

[JWSleuth]

Don’t forget we may have an even stranger POI called back at the inquest, chicken man... I find him stranger than PS.

Kiwi I was just thinking this.... which begs the question what do we not know about him...

 

[JWSleuth]

Kiwi I was just thinking this.... which begs the question what do we not know about him...

And another cat with extensive history..