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suspicious said:
Professional courtesy, if this is true and the fm has hidden this, do you think what she has done is acceptable? If this is true, think about the lives that have been ruined because of her possible lies. What about the the money it has cost tax payers.

There have been a lot of people who have been dragged through the mud, including his bio parents, the fm’s neighbours, BS and all of these peoples families. So if the fm isn’t guilty, she gets added to a long list of ppl who have been dragged, the only difference is that their names and identities are still suppressed.
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That is a reaction about IF she has done this. Way too premature for me. :)
 
suspicious said:
Was it forensically searched too?
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It was searched by crime scene officers, so yes it was :)

William Tyrrell’s foster grandmother’s car, which has been seized by police for forensic testing, had already been examined days after the toddler went missing seven years ago, The Daily Telegraph can reveal.

Crime scene officers also examined his foster parents’ then-new four-wheel-drive, and the two vehicles were returned when nothing incriminating was found.

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drsleuth said:
The searches were thorough & the FGM car was searched.
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Doc, do we know how long they had FGM car for testing at that time?
And if the panels were removed (car pulled apart) and if it was stringently tested for DNA etc at that time???
Or did Police just dust for prints etc at that time ??

If so, what would be the point of them seizing the car a second time? To do the same search???

It just doesn’t seem to make much sense to me ….

JMO
 
SLouTh said:
Doc, do we know how long they had FGM car for testing at that time?
And if the panels were removed (car pulled apart) and if it was stringently tested for DNA etc at that time???
Or did Police just dust for prints etc at that time ??

If so, what would be the point of them seizing the car a second time? To do the same search???

It just doesn’t seem to make much sense to me ….

JMO
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No we/I don't.
 
butterstick said:
Do we think the FCs ever had a moment without being observed in the first few weeks/months?

If WT was left unfound for a good few weeks of intense searching then I'd suggest they'd think they'd gotten away with it, and returning to the site to move him would just seem risky?
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Was there a continuous police presence in the house in the first 48 hours or so? IIRC at that point (and for a couple of weeks) police were looking for a lost child, not closely watching members of the foster family.

Conceivably, in the cover-up scenario, the FM could have gone out in the wee hours and moved a body.

I very much doubt that anyone would leave a child's body in a culvert to be found by others. For a cover-up to succeed, it would need to be removed and disposed of very well, all of which would require a good deal of planning in a pretty short period, IMO.
 
JBowie said:
Was there a continuous police presence in the house in the first 48 hours or so? IIRC at that point (and for a couple of weeks) police were looking for a lost child, not closely watching members of the foster family.

Conceivably, in the cover-up scenario, the FM could have gone out in the wee hours and moved a body.

I very much doubt that anyone would leave a child's body in a culvert to be found by others. For a cover-up to succeed, it would need to be removed and disposed of very well, all of which would require good deal of planning in a pretty short period, IMO.
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Depending on the type of accident, FFC might have been OK with William being found away from the house the first day. Say if he'd drowned at FGM's and she left him in a drain down the road.
 
JBowie said:
Was there a continuous police presence in the house in the first 48 hours or so? IIRC at that point (and for a couple of weeks) police were looking for a lost child, not closely watching members of the foster family.
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There was a police command post set up at Benaroon Drive ….

However, my understanding is that Family members were allowed to leave the premises unescorted …. Initially, at least …

We have information of the FM going to Port Mac to pick her sister up, at the airport, and there are many articles, podcasts and books that mention this, and none mention that a Police Officer accompanied them ….

Also FGM left the residence with her other daughter to stay at a hotel, also no mention in any article of them being accompanied by Police …

Of course we don’t have access to all of the evidence …. But we have been led to believe they were not under Police scrutiny the entire time, from the time of Police arrival at the scene …

IMO
 
JLZ said:
Depending on the type of accident, FFC might have been OK with William being found away from the house the first day. Say if he'd drowned at FGM's and she left him in a drain down the road.
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Moving a body and getting away with it is not as easy as it may sound. During autopsies forensic pathologists are pretty good at determining cause of death and can find circumstances that are not consistent with a death occurring at the location where a body was found.
 
SLouTh said:
There was a police command post set up at Benaroon Drive ….

However, my understanding is that Family members were allowed to leave the premises unescorted …. Initially, at least …

We have information of the FM going to Port Mac to pick her sister up, at the airport, and there are many articles, podcasts and books that mention this, and none mention that a Police Officer accompanied them ….

Also FGM left the residence with her other daughter to stay at a hotel, also no mention in any article of them being accompanied by Police …

Of course we don’t have access to all of the evidence …. But we have been led to believe they were not under Police scrutiny the entire time, from the time of Police arrival at the scene …

IMO
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If it was me, I'd be totally paranoid that I was being followed or tracked somehow.
 
JLZ said:
Depending on the type of accident, FFC might have been OK with William being found away from the house the first day. Say if he'd drowned at FGM's and she left him in a drain down the road.
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Going with the police theory of an accident, is it possible he was reversed into whilst on his bike? Then hidden down the road with the idea that he would be discovered and make it look like he wandered off and then a hit/hide and run took place? but he wasn't discovered....
 
iiiii's said:
Going with the police theory of an accident, is it possible he was reversed into whilst on his bike? Then hidden down the road with the idea that he would be discovered and make it look like he wandered off and then a hit/hide and run took place? but he wasn't discovered....
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It is however with forensics i am sure that police would have picked up any fibres body tissue blood etc from the car, even if it was cleaned. Dogs probably would have detected his scent on part of the car also. And as someone else said previously why would you cover up an accident and not call for help. There is such a tight window involved from when he was last seen to when police were called. For anybody to move a body somewhere unplanned and hide it with the risk of being seen also in such a short period of time.....

Even if he had been placed somewhere close, The amount of searchers and ground covered I would have thought he would have been found quite easily.
 
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