AZ - Gabriel Johnson, 8 months, 26 Dec 2009 - last seen in Texas - #16

[eyes4crime]

I'm not BeanE, but I don't think she's on here right now, so I'll take a shot at an answer, E4C. LOL, you don't have to say you're a "verified professional poster" in your posts. But when you give your opinion about things related to your profession, you are allowed to write things like "I'm a Pharmacist and . . ." or "As a Pharmacist, my opinion is . . . ." Of course, you can post that you've been verified as a professional by Tricia if you want or if you think someone is questioning your credentials.
The "verified" thing started when new members would come on claiming to be lawyers or doctors or LE just to make people give their posts more weight or to get attention or win arguments.
We'll remember you're a verified professional on this thread (hopefully forum soon.)

thanks STEADFAST - Gosh, I'm sure glad I don't have to say 'I'm a verified professional poster' that's a bit much - sort of like saying I'm a fortified vitamin or something. Glad to know that's not the expected. Can't imagine someone coming on the threads pretending to know about drugs/medications - that's playing with life isn't it? mho

 

[angarella]

Hmmmm....TS is on FB as we speak. Wonder what new posts will be appearing soon? :woohoo:

 

[kappy50]

Morning everyone...couple of questions...If EJ was bi-polar and supposedly on medications, do you think they have contacted her Dr. in regards to this to maybe get an idea of previous behavior or possible future behaviour without her med's...and secondly...would she recieve any type of med's in jail....I would assume she has been evaluated there as well.......

 

[BeanE]

I've listened to Eliz's jail interview about 10 billion times. The thing that stands out to me most is that the reporter asks her repeatedly why that particular couple, how does she know if Gabe is safe, etc., and I would expect her answer to be something like:

"These are good loving people, who will take good care of him, and give him a loving environment to grow up in - the things I didn't have as a kid. She's a nurse and he's a computer programmer. Good stable incomes. They go to church every week. They like sports and music and will get Gabe involved in activities and the arts. They have a dog and a cat and 3 goldfish. They travel every summer. We talked about raising children. They have good parental values. They were clean. I have every reason to think they will care well for Gabe."

But she gives no reasons whatever for her trust. Nothing about the couple except that they have no children and can't have any. Nothing to indicate she spent so much as a minute talking to them. Nothing.

But when looking for adoptive parents, aren't the things I listed the kind of things you find out so you know your child is going to a good home?

Why didn't she even make some stuff up? It makes me think that Tammi was a coincidental, one-shot deal, and that she's never looked for adoptive parents at all. She doesn't even know anything about the process.

And if that's the case, who did she give Gabe to?

Thinking out loud. Trying to get the old juices flowing.

 

[eyes4crime]

I've listened to Elizi's jail interview also. Here is what I think:

She reminds me so much of Casey Anthony - Eliz just doesn't 'get it'. She doesn't seem to see the difference between taking her baby away from dad and handing him to strangers in the park, or killing her baby and throwing him in a diaper bag and into a dump, to her, it's all the same. mho The baby is nothing more than an inconvenient object to her and I think everything she does with him is for HER convenience; sedating him, not bothering with toys etc. I see Eliz as highly manipulative - look how she has LE, judicial system, and people across America guessing at her every move. I think she is every bit as much a sociopath/psychopath as Casey is and I'm very worried that her baby is no longer alive. I would be shocked if he is! MOO

 

[LadyL]

Ok, TPS posted overnight that she would be so happy if she got arrested. I really think that's LE's cue to go over there and haul her in.

ETA: She also says that she and JS told H from the beginning that Gabriel was not her baby brother, but H called him that anyway so it became his nickname. Wow! She really has an outrageous lie to try to cover anything she knows is problematic.

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?u...3d39f3e53c4#/profile.php?id=1585061919&ref=mf

those comments appear to be gone now?
did everyone who saw them get screenshots?

the reason she wants to be arrested is b/c it would play in to her martyr fantasy peerfectly

:sick:

 

[YellowSubmarine]

Ok, TPS posted overnight that she would be so happy if she got arrested. I really think that's LE's cue to go over there and haul her in.

ETA: She also says that she and JS told H from the beginning that Gabriel was not her baby brother, but H called him that anyway so it became his nickname. Wow! She really has an outrageous lie to try to cover anything she knows is problematic.

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?u...3d39f3e53c4#/profile.php?id=1585061919&ref=mf

BBM --

Is that why she posted on FB that they got H a baby brother for Christmas? :waitasec:

It's very disturbing that she feels so ok about lying regarding this investigation. Even moreso that she thinks falsifying legal paternity documents to complete an illegal adoption is "telling a white lie". When she states "everyone involved has told lies" - well, she can only state that about her, her husband, EJ and whoever else is involved. So, knowing they have all lied, I don't understand WHY LE hasn't hauled them in? They have admittingly given false statements to LE. They have admittingly obstructed an investigation. They have admittingly falsified legal paternity documents.

I just have to keep hope that LE is just waiting for more. I suppose all their blabbering on tv is good for LE. Just like the Anthony's. Keep giving them a little more rope . . .

I also REALLY hope DCF is investigating whether H should be removed from these people.

 

[YellowSubmarine]

I've listened to Elizi's jail interview also. Here is what I think:

She reminds me so much of Casey Anthony - Eliz just doesn't 'get it'. She doesn't seem to see the difference between taking her baby away from dad and handing him to strangers in the park, or killing her baby and throwing him in a diaper bag and into a dump, to her, it's all the same. mho The baby is nothing more than an inconvenient object to her and I think everything she does with him is for HER convenience; sedating him, not bothering with toys etc. I see Eliz as highly manipulative - look how she has LE, judicial system, and people across America guessing at her every move. I think she is every bit as much a sociopath/psychopath as Casey is and I'm very worried that her baby is no longer alive. I would be shocked if he is! MOO

I agree! I think EJ is LOVING the attention and the fact she is in total control. She loves that everyone is hanging on her every word waiting for a clue as to where Gabe is. I wouldn't be surprised if she's even belted out a "LE is NOT going to trick me into confessing" or "They are NOT going to break me". The similarities between her and kc are frightening.

 

[CathyinTexas]

I am catching up finally. She says Elizabeth wanted them to change Gabriel's name too. :furious:

I go there but I don't see a new post from Tammi. Where are you reading this?

 

[TXHOPE]

Hi BeanE - Tricia has my license # and all that's needed for verification of my professional credentials as a Pharmacist - am I supposed to identify myself as a 'verified professional poster' in the comment? Never know quite how to explain who I am professionally. TIA

Thanks AZlawyer for sharing your time and knowledge with us. Always appreciated!

Eyes4Crime, so what is your opinion on the dosage in the cup and the effects whether it's Benedryl or Tylenol? I would love to hear what a pharmacist thinks about this. BTW love your frog kitty..makes me smile everytime I see it which is much needed right now!

 

[not_my_kids]

What sticks out to me in her jail interview is that when she says that "everyone thought it was such a good thing" when she gave Gabe to TPS and Jack. That is a self centered statement. Not "I thought it was a good thing for Gabe" not "I thought it was commendable to give him a better life". Just that people commended her.

That means if she did give the baby to someone it would not be based on the opportunities or possibilities that they could give Gabe, it would be based on what they told her that they feel about her giving them Gabe. She wouldn't be listening for "We have a big house, we are Christian, we have always wanted children but we can't have them, and we just want a child to spoil and take to the museum and make part of our family." EJ would be listening for, "We adore any mother that chooses to make this unselfish decision." Anything that glorifies her through her choice.

I don't see how this can help, but it's mental purging and it's case related, so just bear with me. I may come up with something productive along the way.

ETA: This was not to offend, or to insinuate that Christians are better people. I was just thinking back to some of the hundreds of adoption postings over the past few days and typing up the pertinent parts that prospective adoptives tend to use to make themselves seem more desirable. So no one take offense. I didn't mean that "Christian" automatically means "good" or that someone would only let a Christian adopt. Just typing from memory and it ended up in the post.

 

[b4e]

I wonder if LE knows that TPS is feeling 'accomplished'...

 

[katiemadonna]

I go there but I don't see a new post from Tammi. Where are you reading this?

She removed it...

 

[Shear22]

Hmmmm....TS is on FB as we speak. Wonder what new posts will be appearing soon? :woohoo:

Just deleting stuff she regrets having said.:doh:

It seems like a compulsion for her. She knows she should shut up. She knows she should defriend all these strangers who are cluttering up her facebook and hanging on every word she says (and getting screenshots), but she just can't do it. Instead, she makes a fan page, but still comes back to her personal page to publish some more cover-up lies. In the now deleted comment where she expresses her desire to be arrested she also asked if she should lie, cheat, and steal to get more attention for Gabriel. Hasn't she been doing that since the beginning?

 

[kissdegirl]

Why oh why? I live near Dallas, and just went to Walmart. They don't even have Gabriel on their missing poster! I had to leave because of my little ones, but I going to call the manager and get his picture up. Anyone else in Texas wanna help with their local stores as well? I am planning to call all the businesses I can think of, or maybe even make flyers to take to them personally to post on their doors. Too bad I'm not in San Antonio, I would be all over that area of town where they were staying.

 

[LadyL]

did anyoone get screenshots? the comment about EJ wanting her to change Gabriel's name seems important to the investigation ...

or can someone at least forward that info to LE?

 

[kissdegirl]

thanks STEADFAST - Gosh, I'm sure glad I don't have to say 'I'm a verified professional poster' that's a bit much - sort of like saying I'm a fortified vitamin or something. Glad to know that's not the expected. Can't imagine someone coming on the threads pretending to know about drugs/medications - that's playing with life isn't it? mho

I think I snorted.... no....I did snort.

 

[fran]

I actually thought about TS the past couple of days and wondered if she was upset that her 15 minutes was waning. After all, NG seems to be moving away from the case and Haleigh Cummings got NG attention Thursday and last night was TW. I didn't watch the whole show each night, but didn't see, in what I did watch, a mention of Gabriel.

JMHO
fran
:twocents:

 

[NewMommy09]

Some shady adoption agencies in SA and some stuff on the contents of the medicine cuppy.

The third that I'm not sure got submitted was someone who took pics of measured amounts poured into a medicine cuppy.

They were great tips.

There was also a poster (MarylandMissing, IIRC) that had found some escort type ads that he/she thought the person looked like EJ. We didn't get a lot of details on that. I asked if the poster had submitted that as a tip, but never got a response.

 

[Shear22]

did anyoone get screenshots? the comment about EJ wanting her to change Gabriel's name seems important to the investigation ...

or can someone at least forward that info to LE?

I got a screenshot of the first comment (so happy if arrested, lie cheat steal) but not the second one (little brother nickname and EJ wanted Gabriel's name changed).