AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - #23

[KnicksFan]

Well, I for one stopped posting because I felt some folks were too quick to shoot down theories they did not agree with. Then, what has there been to post about except speculating endlessly from the dribbles and drabs we've gotten from LE? I could spend the time and energy on my keyboard to go over the facts that I am privy to and give my interpretation and guesses based off that, but no, I didn't join this website to have to endlessly defend myself, I came here hoping for intelligent discussion. I have gotten that, but not as much as I had hoped.

Anyway...I hope the news update is something besides a recap of nothing new....peace out.

 

[SmoothOperator]

http://www.manta.com/c/mm528k9/chiquita-enterprises

this is one of isa's neighbors who was quoted in the doc dump that their house was a rental. look at the address.

imo it has no bearing on the case. but i'm sleuthing. go ahead and argue. this child is still missing.

Could you be more specific on what's being sleuthed about the people who rent the home at 5622 E 12th Street? ..no argument just curious what specifically is being looked at about the ppl that rent this home?

 

[No Stone Unturned]

KnicksFan: it is true that there are some heated posters in this thread who 100% believe that they are on the right side of the fence. I've been away from this thread for 3 weeks. I think that are pushing others away too.

I still look at MSM for news of Isabel and hope that LE makes a break in this case.

 

[Dr. Know?]

Nothing about Sergio being with the boys again. They said the parents have been coming by the command center & visiting.

TPD said they have about 1800 tips so far, a vigil is planned for July but no date is set.

The spokesperson for the center said donations have been coming in.

 

[winterrose]

Nothing about Sergio being with the boys again. They said the parents have been coming by the command center & visiting.

TPD said they have about 1800 tips so far, a vigil is planned for July but no date is set.

The spokesperson for the center said donations have been coming in.

At least they're aware of what locals are saying and will probably be checking into it.

 

[time]

Prof, I understand how you feel and what you are saying. My opinion is that I will not defend the Celis' because I have no evidence telling me they are innocent of it all unfortunately and a lot of possibles. However, I clearly don't see any evidence that tells me they have to be guilty. I'm not here to defend them, but I think a lot of 'going beyond the facts' goes on here that is leading to 'they have to be guilty' or even 'they ARE guilty'.... maybe too much so. And, I do wish posters would quite misstating those facts ... like saying there was blood found on the carpet.

 

[beach]

Mod warning

Too many rude, snarky personal remarks on this thread.

You don't have to agree but you guys do have to respect members' whose opinions may differ from your own.

Agree to disagree and move on. Stop the petty stuff.

Reminder - this thread is about ISABEL.

 

[Jules71]

http://www.manta.com/c/mm528k9/chiquita-enterprises

this is one of isa's neighbors who was quoted in the doc dump that their house was a rental. look at the address.

imo it has no bearing on the case. but i'm sleuthing. go ahead and argue. this child is still missing.

This is the house on the other side of neighbor AS right? Interesting what you found on manta.com.

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[white rabbit]

Could you be more specific on what's being sleuthed about the people who rent the home at 5622 E 12th Street? ..no argument just curious what specifically is being looked at about the ppl that rent this home?

nothing, that was my point. she was interviewed and quoted in the doc dump and she deals non-sporting ammunition.

if my neighbor sold bullets, i'd be speculative as should LE. IMO it has nothing to do with the case. i'm trying to provide alternative avenues for those who feel the family had nothing to do with it.

and it was the neighbor who said their (the celis's) house was a rental. i don't know why she'd say that.

 

[Dr. Know?]

I'm going to watch at 6, 9 & 10 in case the 5 o'clock was a build up for more news. (I doubt it, but could be).

ETA, my short update on the news, I think they said parents instead of family that was coming by the command center. I'll correct if I can find a video of it or hear it again mentioned on the news tonight.

 

[mmmagique]

I haven't posted much at all lately, since I don't feel that there is enough evidence to point fingers at anyone. And I haven't posted because I think that the posters who believe that family did it are just going to once again present the same "evidence" that they believe, once again, over and over. So I keep out of the discussion since we are just going over and over the same old same old, and I just keep up reading so when something new happens I am aware of it. But I truly do not see this forum as lopsided in favor of the family. I do see a few valiant posters who try and maintain a grasp on the truth, and a few posters defending the family. All the rest.... Think the family did it and think it LOUDLY. So I hope that the few who are on the fence like me, or are in defense of the family stick it out. I, for one, truly appreciate the effort it must take for them to post on here.

I do not think some (or at least one) member(s) of the family is/are innocent; but I've been very quiet about it.

I believe there are people on both sides (and on) the fence, and we're all just searching for the truth. Even if it means we are wrong.

 

[Galadriel]

Nothing about Sergio being with the boys again. They said the parents have been coming by the command center & visiting.

TPD said they have about 1800 tips so far, a vigil is planned for July but no date is set.

The spokesperson for the center said donations have been coming in.

Was that all? I was praying for something, anything, that showed things moving forward and finding Isa. I guess it's better than nothing - at least this keeps her in people's thoughts.

 

[Dr. Know?]

Was that all? I was praying for something, anything, that showed things moving forward and finding Isa. I guess it's better than nothing - at least this keeps her in people's thoughts.

More or less, yes that was it. Except at the 6pm news that's on now. A different reporter. While they showed old footage of Sergio & Rebecca at the old command center by Office Max, she said the parents are keeping Isabel's name out there by passing out flyers, holding vigils & car washes etc...hmmm (they didn't show up at the last car wash and have missed several other gatherings)

I contacted a few reporters to find out if the rumor was true about the NCO by CPS being lifted. That rumor started on Father's day I believe. The reporters for KOLD told me they would be checking into that fact today. Guess they are still checking.

Today does mark 2 months that Isa has been missing sadly.

eta, the reporter also said they were keeping her name out there by using social media?

 

[Jules71]

nothing, that was my point. she was interviewed and quoted in the doc dump and she deals non-sporting ammunition.

if my neighbor sold bullets, i'd be speculative as should LE. IMO it has nothing to do with the case. i'm trying to provide alternative avenues for those who feel the family had nothing to do with it.

and it was the neighbor who said their (the celis's) house was a rental. i don't know why she'd say that.

Which neighbor said the Celis's house is a rental? I think it is weird that this ammo business is run from a house. The business listing matches the name on whitepages too for that address.

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[SmoothOperator]

nothing, that was my point. she was interviewed and quoted in the doc dump and she deals non-sporting ammunition.

if my neighbor sold bullets, i'd be speculative as should LE. IMO it has nothing to do with the case. i'm trying to provide alternative avenues for those who feel the family had nothing to do with it.

and it was the neighbor who said their (the celis's) house was a rental. i don't know why she'd say that.

Thanks.. IMO it certainly appears from what documentation we have access to that she is clearly mistaken that the celis' are renters of their home as she is(again from documents available to us) ..she may just be one of those neighbors who speaks as if she has knowledge of a neighbors business, when she really doesn't.. i know here in my neighborhood we have a husband/wife that are this way,as in they are continually soeaking about other neighbors business as if they're "in the know"..when honestly they re not, but rather just nosy neighbors always attempting to gain info about neighbors any way they can.. with hopes that they learn something juicy about one of them so they can then really have something good to pass along to other neighbors.. I can only imagine if one of our neighbors were to suddenly be in the nnational media spotlight with a criminal investigation nd a missing child..these two would be the exact type talking to media about likely any irrelevant info imaginable just for the sheer purpose of appearing to be "in the know"..

Not saying that this is necessarily what's going on here but I do know that every neighborhood have these type neighbors of which i speak.. she may be similar, but then again she may just have stated that the celis family rented their home because she truly thought or assumed them to be renters much like herself.. idk

It is an interesting tidbit about her selling non-sporting ammo.. my question is if non sporting the only other use of ammo would be to protect ones self.. or to harm another..unless she sells to like LE agencies(which seems unlikely imo that they would be buying from a private individual seller)..do we know anything more about who her clientele is that she sells the non sporting ammo to?

TiA

 

[Dr. Know?]

Okay, my sister watch KVOA 4 and here's what she sent me.

KVOA4 just did update...said they asked CPS about Sergio's return to the home; said CPS nor Sergio returned their calls. Said TPD had sent reps to states on the east and west coast and to Mexico to investigate sightings. It was a TPD admin who spoke on camera, that is rare.

 

[Dr. Know?]

That means the FBI is pretty much in charge if they are looking east to west coast & in Mexico. It explains TPD silence.

Keep the rumors coming, we might get more news.

(obviously kidding about the rumors)

 

[Dee10]

That means the FBI is pretty much in charge if they are looking east to west coast & in Mexico. It explains TPD silence.

Keep the rumors coming, we might get more news.

Good point! It is just the term investigate "sightings" that doesn't make me optimistic as we see that in cases that have national exposure, but hey you never know & glad they are investigating. lease:

 

[FrayedKnot]

Well, I for one stopped posting because I felt some folks were too quick to shoot down theories they did not agree with. Then, what has there been to post about except speculating endlessly from the dribbles and drabs we've gotten from LE? I could spend the time and energy on my keyboard to go over the facts that I am privy to and give my interpretation and guesses based off that, but no, I didn't join this website to have to endlessly defend myself, I came here hoping for intelligent discussion. I have gotten that, but not as much as I had hoped.

Anyway...I hope the news update is something besides a recap of nothing new....peace out.

Thank you! The button was not enough!

 

[scout35]

Thought better of it.