AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - # 8

[Anita Richman]

Per Natisha, the volunteer search command center is manned mostly by Becky's friends an coworkers.

Natisha says they haven't been able to confirm where Sergio works.

Hmmm. Nancy's crack team of investigators should call all of the oral surgeons in Tucson. I don't think it should be that hard to determine.

 

[Anita Richman]

Okay, my bad, Greg said across the street from the church.

LOL, forgive my nitpicking, I'm a little surly right now.

 

[PAXIMUS]

Please share what exactly you think happened to little Isabel.

I have no idea what happened to her and I dont really care to speculate. At this point I have no reason to believe it is anything other than what the parents claim, the father went to get her and she was gone and they dont know who did it.

 

[Shelby2]

Who was just yelling at Nancy? I was busy yelling at someone else.

 

[liltexans]

LOL, forgive my nitpicking, I'm a little surly right now.

No worries. I got mixed up because Greg was talking about 2 restaurants across the street from the church and then he said the bank "next door" and I thought he meant next door to the church. So glad we have locals on here!

 

[katydid23]

There are going to be a zillion sightings of girls who look like Isabel. She is very beautiful but many little girls look quite similar. Many people will confuse pretty girls with long, thick light brown hair and hazel eyes with the missing child, imo.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

These are totally just my personal opinions and what it is that I "see" at this point in the case.. If looking for facts being listed then it's best you just scroll on past this post onto the next one..

I personally see nothing whatsoever that is indicative of these parents being in any way whatsoever involved in their daughter, Isa's disappearance.. From what little we know(which hey aren't we used to having very little to work with especially 10days in).. But from what little we know I can find, nor even find an area of reasonable speculation that is indicative they would have any reason or motive to ever harm they're youngest child, and only daughter, Isabel Mercedes..
Moo but I dont care if 5mins from now we get proof positive that either or both of these parents are in the worst of the worst dire straits financially and they've borrowed $50,000 off a loan shark that's now come due.. For me no matter what comes to light of how financially ruined this family may be.. IT DOES NOT MATTER AND IT DOES NOT IMO INDICATE EVEN IN THE SLIGHTEST WAY THAT THESE PARENTS ARE INVOLVED IN THEIR DAUGHTERS DISAPPEARANCE..

Financial dire straits or not the vast majority of 99.9999999% of human beings do not find one of their children to somehow be the answer to the financial problem.. That's just not reality and IMO Sergio and Becky do not fall into that rare category .09999% that would be of this type mindset..

So, IMPO I have nothing of which to base even a speculative theory of either or both of Isa's parents being in any way involved in their daughters disappearance.. If I'm of that frame of mind(which I am) then I cannot even begin to express the confusion, frustration, and yea, even irritation that I have with how Pecheco has and continues to choose to handle this family within the public forum.. I will say this.. If it is indeed fact that these parents are absolutely innocent victims of this entire nightmare then IMO Pecheco has done severe damage to this family(and not just speaking of a little tarnish on their reputation).. I mean in much much more serious and detrimental ways.. But as of right here, right now just as I'm choosing to give the parents the absolute benefit of the doubt. I, too feel I should do the same for LE due to fact that I cannot come up with a nefarious motive for why Pacheco would blatantly choose to handle the parents with such coolness with some extremely passive aggressive comments peppered throughout every single public statement thus far given.. I mean some very obvious, oozing with passive-aggression towards the parents and I cannot for the life of me figure out why????

Again I really and truly cannot find any even half azz good reason or motive for how/why Serio and/or Becky would have in any way harmed Isa, benefit from Isa's disappearance, or after the fact cover up for anyone who did take and/or harm Isa.. I can't.. I really really can't..

My question is to any of you all who are leaning toward the possibility that either or both of the parents are in some way involved with what's happened to Isa... I am very interested to get you all's honest opinions and your personal "take" on the entire situation as we know it thus far.. What/Why/How the parents did so.. What exactly is it they've done(as in stage an abduction and she's hidden somewhere yet alive, sold/gave her away, killed her accidental or otherwise, etc, etc).. What is it that in your opinion that either/both Sergio/Becky would in an way benefit by having Isa "disappear"??

And then what is you all's take on the situation with LE(specifically Pecheco) and their openly, publicly extremely cool towards the parents and their statements literally oozing with passive-agressive slants toward the parents.. What specifically do you all believe could be the main issue that has LE seem to have such a cool, zero ounce of compassion towards Sergio and Becky?? .. IMO I don't believe I've ever seen LE be so outwardly cool and passively aggressive publicly towards the parents of a child that's MISSING except for in the case of KC LE toward the Bradley/Irwin parents of Baby Lisa.. Sadly this is somewhat that same vibe all over again regarding the relationship between LE and the parents of the missing child(and God don't we all know just what a blessed nightmare of a case that Baby Lisa case is.. And still it drags on with no Baby Lisa in sight)..

I'm just very very perplexed at the moment with what is actually going on here in Isa's case and am desperately praying that it not turn Into another torturous, never ending, no resolution, nor ever even any closure to the case and especially for Isa's many loved ones..

Tho, More so than ANYTHING else(including even my questions regarding Isa's parents and their seeming opposition to speaking out).. Yes, even more so than that I AM THE MOST PERPLEXED AND FLUMOXED WITH HOW PECHECO HAS AND IS CONTINUING TO OPENLY AND PUBLICLY HAVE ALMOST WHAT ID CALL DISDAIN FOR ISA's PARENTS!! What/why are the most concerning issues for me... And for some reason(unbeknownst to me presently) I almost feel as tho, if I can somehow figure out and find the answer to that question that it may just make everything else all make sense and fall in place.. Idk??

So, for any/all of you who have any theories, speculations, intuitions, or just opinions on the possibility of either/both Isa's parents are in some way involved in Isa's disappearance.. Would you please share what/why/how your thoughts are on this issue??.. As well as what could be the real issue behind what is in my personal open almost open disdain that Pecheco seems to have toward Sergio and Becky??

TIA
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Posting via mobile as well as via tablet so plz forgive all typos.. Btwn the sucky touch keyboard and the obsessive auto-correct it's a big ol' mess :crazy:

Thank you for saying exactly what I have felt for over a week now. I have certainly been around this block a few hundred times and I am not guliable in the least.

I have honestly and openly looked for anything I find suspicious about Isa's parents and I have found NADA, ZILCH, ZERO!

In fact based on everything that has come out these parents are the all American family who are close knit and love all three of their children immensely. Supporting and interacting with them as a family unit. And NOT ONE PERSON has said anything differently.

Isa was taken because of a drug debt? Baloney. There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever the parents even do drugs much less hang around drug dealers. Even LE said the drug connection was 'misplaced.'

Isa was taken because her parents were in a financial crisis? Where in the heck did that come from? They seemed to have worked out a different agreement with the mortgage holder and are doing quite well now. Is that different than millions who have had to do the same in the last three years or so? Of course not. And people can also work extra hours or off days and catch their mortgage up.

It really seems to me that LE knows they are not going to solve this case or find Isa so they are trying to put the fault on Isa's parents when LE is the one that solves cases not parents.

Frankly, Pecheco, makes my skin crawl. If this is one of LEs finest I would hate to see their worst. He is very unlikeable and he would be to me even if I thought one of the parents or both were involved, imo.

IMO

 

[callyn]

Nancy says some business have non-working videos, but some businesses have not turned over their videos because LE hasn't asked yet.

This does not inspire confidence. I would think LE would want to see those videos ASAP. :banghead:

 

[katydid23]

This does not inspire confidence. I would think LE would want to see those videos ASAP. :banghead:

I agree. The first thing I would have done is gone around collecting surveillance videos for that night.

p.s. I love your doggie. Reminds me of our littlest one, who is corgie/chihuahua mix.

 

[liltexans]

Per Nancy, Isa's family is currently staying at the home of Isa's grandparents, which is nearby.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

wth!!

Let me echo that sherbet!

WTH!!!!!:maddening:

 

[liltexans]

The family showed up for Isa's special Mass at the church last night and they were all wearing purple, Isa's favorite color.

 

[PAXIMUS]

I don´t know, but people in desperat situations somtimes make desperat decisions.




I read on the mothers facebook that she concider herself:
Quote Oct 2011 Rebecca Celis: "Am not very religious"

So that might explain it.
I also read somone posting here on WS that both parents, at their plea, was wearing Rosary beads around their necks but that you are not supposed to wear them like that, and that it kind of revailed that their symbols of faith was not genuin but insted across as a fake showoff.

I don´t know about that, because I´m not a Catholic.

And please know that thise theorie I posted is just one of many different possible senarious IMHO.

Well that is true as a Catholic I wouldnt wear rosary beads around my neck, it seems only the idiots on Jersey Shore do stupid things like that so when I did see the parents doing that I sort of cringed a little but that doesnt make me suspect them of anything.

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

I am just plain disappointed and confused about the information coming forth from the "pressers." At the onset of Isa's disappearance I was encouraged by the willingness of the LE community to communicate with the public and enlist their help. But as their statements evolved from several each day to a once a day occurrence ~ so has their willingness to share important and accurate information.

Perhaps they have selected the wrong spokesperson? Or maybe not; is their intent to be officially blase and confusing? Because that's my impression and from reading the posts here it doesn't sound like I'm the only one who has picked up on the same vibes.

Gosh, one of the biggest pieces of information they presented and asked the public's assistance in was, now we learn, based on faulty information . . . . and revealed in such a backward, off-handed manner. From the statements given by Villaseñor, we even have questions about whether LE supports the family or not.

At this point, I question the usefulness and accuracy of their information.

The only solid fact that I know is that I and everyone here at WS are hoping and praying that Isa will be returned safely and soon! God bless her.

 

[dsntslp]

The family showed up for Isa's special Mass at the church last night and they were all wearing purple, Isa's favorite color.

Did any WS locals attend? Have they said in reports about how many people did attend?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Hmmm. Nancy's crack team of investigators should call all of the oral surgeons in Tucson. I don't think it should be that hard to determine.

This is not directed at you at all but I need to vent. lol

What business is it of the media anyway?

What does that have to do with finding Isa and who took her away.

More and more I cant stand the media.

They have become nothing more than bottom feeders, imo.

 

[PAXIMUS]

Did any WS locals attend? Have they said in reports about how many people did attend?

300 people attended.

 

[liltexans]

Marc Klaas on now saying the parents have a very important job in keeping public awareness alive and keeping the focus on Isabel and not distracted by the family. MK: "Of course authorities are going to continue to look at the family. That always happens because that's where the numbers take you. That's responsible investigative technique, but until they're eliminated they still need to be out in front. They need to be talking to people. They need to be helping to alleviate the fear that yes, indeed, there's a monster out there and the kids in Tucson are not going to be safe until that monster is caught. They have a very huge component in ensuring that that occurs."

 

[elmomom]

In my very very humble opinion, I have had a theory from the early days of this case, and I would like to share it.
I think that the crime scene looked "fishy" to LE from the get-go, which led to the comment that they hoped the FBI would see it differently. I think LE thinks it was staged, but as of yet cannot find any evidence against the parents. I think LE is convinced that the parents did it, the parents know they feel that way and are extremely frightened of being falsely accused by LE. Which leads them to fear coming out in public. And I do think they may be innocent and uninvolved. I think the Ramsey's were uninvolved in Jon Benet's murder, and in that case, I think the public reacted negatively towards the parents, allowing LE to really try to hang the whole case on Patsy. This is all my rampant speculations, but honestly, I do think LE is empty handed and would like to have the public sentiment turn against the parents. I don't think they are guilty, but maybe they are, but I do know one thing for sure. LE MUST do its job and uncover real EVIDENCE before casting suspicion on anyone. Until then, I prefer to stay on the fence and sympathize with these parents who have lost their baby girl.

 

[dsntslp]

This is not directed at you at all but I need to vent. lol

What business is it of the media anyway?

What does that have to do with finding Isa and who took her away.

More and more I cant stand the media.

They have become nothing more than bottom feeders, imo.

I 'get' what you are saying, I do.
The press and LE are often "necessary evils" to each other.
The press need tips and info from LE and LE needs the press to spread info and ask for the help of the public.

At least that is how I see it...


IMO