Deceased/Not Found AZ - Jhessye Shockley, 5, Glendale, 11 Oct 2011 - #5 *J. Hunter guilty*

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TL have not read any of the doc dumps yet.

Did the witness who drove her to Tempe say what jerice told her was in the suitcase? Is she an actual witness who will testify at trial?

Right now sitting here at my desk at work, I feel ill. Sick to my stomach and full of very bad feelings about jerice and shirley!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Knox said:
TL have not read any of the doc dumps yet.

Did the witness who drove her to Tempe say what jerice told her was in the suitcase? Is she an actual witness who will testify at trial?

Right now sitting here at my desk at work, I feel ill. Sick to my stomach and full of very bad feelings about jerice and shirley!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I can't bring myself to go back into the documents right now, so this is from memory:

I believe that the driver/witness is very cooperative and will be testifying at the trial.

I didn't see/hear on the news about anything specific in the suitcase, only that Jerice apologized for the smell.


I also wanted to post a link to another tv station's story: http://www.azfamily.com/news/Police-report-released-in-Jhessye-Shockley-case-173428841.html

I couldn't watch the video all the way through, it is just too heartbreaking.
 
Knox said:
TL have not read any of the doc dumps yet.

Did the witness who drove her to Tempe say what jerice told her was in the suitcase? Is she an actual witness who will testify at trial?

Right now sitting here at my desk at work, I feel ill. Sick to my stomach and full of very bad feelings about jerice and shirley!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What Marigold said as to the witness (Tempe drive)

as to your sick feeling, I hear you friend. :hug: after all the reopening of the wound this report has done (although I am so thankful for its being released to read) I think a :grouphug: may be in order.
 
tlcox said:
What Marigold said as to the witness (Tempe drive)

as to your sick feeling, I hear you friend. :hug: after all the reopening of the wound this report has done (although I am so thankful for its being released to read) I think a :grouphug: may be in order.
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Absolutely TL ... :grouphug:

Marigold, I have not seen you posting in a while. Good to hear from you, though under such horrible circumstances.

I've come to draw comfort from those who have been here and stayed the course for Jhessye. As bad as we feel, I always have Jhessye's real family (Tycora, Lisa, Mahogany and others) on my mind. They loved her as their own, tried to fight jerice when she forcefully took her back, and tried their best to help her afterwards by calling CPS.

It's what never made sense ... why take her back if you did not want her?
 
To get expedited assistance from agencies (smaller child, further up the list of the needy for assistance with housing, food, cash, etc.)

and

Bonus for Jerice

Her own little whipping girl who thought she was some sort of princess because Jerice's "uppity" relatives had raised her like one. (the perfect victim for all her rage)

I need to stop now or get myself in trouble. I am so angry and full of hate towards Jerice and her accomplice, Shirley.
 
I hope shirley knows that everyone who knows anything about this case, feels she should be sitting beside her daughter in that jail!!!!!!!

She's like the person who drives the get-a-way car from the murder scene, then helps the murderer clean up, get rid of the weapon and then gives them an alibi. It's all the same to me.
 
I haven't been able to bring myself to read the reports of what jerice did to Jhessye. I would probably cry and feel such rage and hate. I taught in the inner city and Jhessye reminded of my sweet little kindergarten girls with their pretty hairdos and bows and such. Such beautiful, sweet loving little girls. A joy to be around, just as Jhessye was.

But not to jerice. I always felt that jerice was very jealous and enraged
about Jhessye's upbringing and the fact that she had been loved, pampered and educated.

I remember when I taught my little kindergarteners and they would get into fusses like kids do. If one of them would say "I hate ____", I would say "You shouldn't say that that. You should only say you hate something that is evil. ____ isn't evil, you are just upset with ___ and we can fix this and you be friends again.

So I really never say that I hate something and correct my grandkids if they say they hate something. But I cannot help myself, I think of poor sweet Jhessye and what she endured and I hate jerice.
 
So... all these relatives that knew this sweet child was being abused, that saw bruises, heard cries from this baby, just did *advertiser censored* nothing?
 
Knox said:
Absolutely TL ... :grouphug:

Marigold, I have not seen you posting in a while. Good to hear from you, though under such horrible circumstances.

I've come to draw comfort from those who have been here and stayed the course for Jhessye. As bad as we feel, I always have Jhessye's real family (Tycora, Lisa, Mahogany and others) on my mind. They loved her as their own, tried to fight jerice when she forcefully took her back, and tried their best to help her afterwards by calling CPS.

It's what never made sense ... why take her back if you did not want her?
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Respectfully bolded by me.

Between beautiful little Jhessye, and adorable little baby Gabriel, my heart feels so very very heavy. But right now, I don't want to think of how I feel, I want to offer prayers and condolences to those that knew Jhessye and truly loved her. May God bless them, comfort them and give them strength.
 
This case makes me so heartsick. Even Caylee's autopsy report did not make me ache the way these details do. I can't bring myself to read it all; just the comments here are horrific.

Poor baby Jhessye! I'm so sorry you had to live such a short, tragic life. You should have been nurtured and allowed to spread your beautiful wings! God only knows what you might have done if you had had a real mother.

Tears...
 
Even though the date listed for when Jhessye went "missing" is Oct. 11, 2011-- I think we all know that she was gone before then.


Tomorrow marks 1 year that you have been a part of my daily thoughts, prayers, and free time. Yes, I spend my free time sifting through websites and forums and news articles and court documents. I do it because I love children. I do it because I hate abuse. I do it because it makes me feel good to know that someone, even a complete stranger, can love a child they have never met.
 
seattlechiquita said:
So... all these relatives that knew this sweet child was being abused, that saw bruises, heard cries from this baby, just did *advertiser censored* nothing?
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I think you said this because you don't know all the facts, not out of maliciousness.

It's certainly NOT the case. I don't have the energy to go into details tonight, but please go back and read through this thread. "Those relatives" loved Jhessye with all their heart and soul.
 
Indy Anna said:
I have a question or two for AZlawyer, or anyone else who can answer.

Since Jhessye's body wasn't recovered, I assume the case will be based upon witness testimony. Much of that testimony, I presume, will be from Jhessye's siblings. On the other hand, would they be called to testify against their own mother? Is that left up to the child?

If Jhessye's siblings do testify, would they have to testify in person (in court). I've heard of cases using video-taped testimony of young witnesses. Would that depend on their ages at the time of trial? Jhessye's one sister would be 14 now ... and will be 16 when the case goes to trial if it should take 2 years.

TIA
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Yes, any of the children who are old enough to understand what it means to take an oath to tell the truth, and who know something about what happened, will testify. The 13-year-old for sure. For young children, there is a possibility of video testimony.

I don't believe there are any hard-and-fast age limits--the judge will consider the child's individual level of understanding.
 
This is one of the worst child abuse cases I ever read about. Shirley needs to be sitting in jail right next to that monster. I am mad at everyone who saw and suspected abuse happening to Jyhessye and did nothing! :mad: If only someone intervened and called police to report welfare fraud, which can be done anonymous, Jyhessye would be alive today. :(

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seattlechiquita said:
So... all these relatives that knew this sweet child was being abused, that saw bruises, heard cries from this baby, just did *advertiser censored* nothing?
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incorrect. several relatives reported their concerns to LE and to CPS. Their concerns were not addressed. They were kept from Jhessye and therefor saw her very infrequently. When they did, they were shocked and concerned. They did everything you are supposed to do. Report. Try to stay allowed in her sphere to monitor her condition. They were thwarted by Jerice, Shirley, CPS and LE.

The rest of the jerks, mostly friends, relatives and associates on Shirley side of the family apparently ignored the abuse but were happy to tell LE what "dumb*ss girl" Jerice was and that she would whoop those kids so bad it wouldn't be a stretch to imagine she may have whooped Jerice to death. (see [unusual person] Ricky's interview with LE)

(is there an absolute disgust emoticon? I sure could use one for some of these folks)
 
"When Jerice got into the car with the witness, she apologized for the smell of the suitcase," the report said. "After they arrived at an apartment complex in the city of Tempe, Jerice Hunter took the large suitcase from the trunk of the vehicle and placed it into a dumpster."

When asked about the veracity of the witness' statement, Glendale police spokeswoman Tracey Breeden would not say directly whether police believe the suitcase contained the body.

"The suitcase was placed in a trash can, and we were in a landfill looking for Jhessye, so when you put 2 and 2 together, you can kind of figure it out," she said. "(I) can't really say anything more at this point."

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarep...ockley-report-witness-abrk.html#ixzz2902BBQ5e

I am thankful for this witness.
 
Jhessye's school principal had told police that the child was absent for about two weeks before her disappearance and that officials contacted the mother about getting her back to school, according to the documents.

The officer reported that the principal said numerous calls were made to the mother of Jhessye during that time.

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarep...ockley-report-witness-abrk.html#ixzz2902g3xkM
 
I skimmed through the docs. No wonder it took LE a long time to rule out an abduction and focus on Jerice completely. Hundreds of pages of tips from people who saw little girls who looked like Jhessye.
 
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