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IIRC, no one has yet testified about who cleaned out the incinerator, or when. I wonder if those questions will be addressed?
All MOO.
Well, in fairness, it's not really ludicrous at all. Not many people are going to plead guilty to first degree murder and throw their life away.I think about how ludicrous it is that DM did not plead guilty in this case.
Most importantly, at the Bobcat location MS claims he did NOT know that any wrong doing had transpired. Until hesees DM get out and put a gun into his satchel. And MS claims DM saysI'm taking the truck.If that were the facts... Never mind the plates.Why did MS pull up so close to TB's truck? What if TB got out of his truck and saw there was no third person in the Yukon. I wonder if the Crown will ask for more details to hear more I don't remember I was under a lot of stress BSThose facts alone make me believe MS was inTB's truck when the fatal shot was fired.
Well, in fairness, it's not really ludicrous at all. Not many people are going to plead guilty to first degree murder and throw their life away.
Even Bernardo plead not guilty, and that was after KH had made her infamous "deal with the devil."
I don't understand why, after hearing all the evidence, MS didn't just say they drove N past SuperSucker, then got the call and turned back South to go pick up the fake friend. It would have explained everything. I for one, from the moment MS said they went directly to the fake friend, wanted an explanation for the other sightings of the truck. Surely, TD and MS must have realized they would have to explain the other sightings of the truck.
My apologies in advance for turning a little philosophical/reflective here...I just found myself in that mood
This is the first trial I've followed closely from start to finish.
Ever since I first heard of the disappearance through the church grapevine/facebook, I've felt like I was a part of it.
I still cry when I remember the raw emotion of Sharlene's plea for Tim's return ("You don’t need him. BUT I DO! And our daughter needs her daddy back,” It has angered me during this trial that people knew things, but ignored that plaintive plea...a call for human compassion...for an answer...
and then there were so many geographical familiarities along the way that drew me into the case even further...
The Justice system part I have found fascinating...it has made me rethink old positions on rights of EVERYone involved...thank you to WS posters and journalists who have given me this education.
At times, the stories of the lives led by that 'entourage' quite frankly depressed me..I kept wanting this to read like a well written novel where the characters come out in the end changed and better for what they've gone through...but, for the most part, I was deprived of that luxury and had to face the fact that a RL court case isn't a place we can go for absolute truth or redemption.
Still...while I sometimes found myself mourning the evilness and selfishness of some people in this world through this case, in the next moment I found myself encouraged and proud of the goodness and compassion of many more people also who filed through the courtroom...
1. Those in the 'entourage' who DID stand up and speak at least most of the truth (thank you)
2 Dr. Tracy Rogers, the forensic anthropologist who testified about the collection of human bone and ash from an incinerator stressed her determination to give the family every tiny piece that she could. "I thought it was important for the family's peace of mind that they have all the remains," she told the jury. Her voice cracked as she spoke and she apologized.After her testimony, Tim Bosma's father Hank followed Rogers out of the courtroom and gave her a hug. (Thank you Dr Rogers and Mr Bosma)
3. Veterinarian Robert Burns who stepped up to testify against his nephew Millard.... and was reported to have smiled and nodded several times to Sharlene Bosma during his testimony. (Thank you for that )
4. The person who spent so many hours putting together the incredibly useful powerpoint presentation on the phones (thank you for your time and diligence)
5. The LE, experts, the neighbours and witnesses who stood up and reported what they saw...who chose to get involved
6. The Bosma army who support the family so faithfully each day
....
I actually could go on and on....and I guess I am just happy now that I can....and thank you all who prove in big and little ways that there is still a LOT of good in this world, lets make sure the next generation can be equally proud
I also think when DM said .... I AM TAKING THE TRUCK .... during the test drive it was a prearranged signal that they would enact the rest of the plan.
My apologies in advance for turning a little philosophical/reflective here...I just found myself in that mood
This is the first trial I've followed closely from start to finish.
Ever since I first heard of the disappearance through the church grapevine/facebook, I've felt like I was a part of it.
I still cry when I remember the raw emotion of Sharlene's plea for Tim's return ("You don’t need him. BUT I DO! And our daughter needs her daddy back,” It has angered me during this trial that people knew things, but ignored that plaintive plea...a call for human compassion...for an answer...
and then there were so many geographical familiarities along the way that drew me into the case even further...
The Justice system part I have found fascinating...it has made me rethink old positions on rights of EVERYone involved...thank you to WS posters and journalists who have given me this education.
At times, the stories of the lives led by that 'entourage' quite frankly depressed me..I kept wanting this to read like a well written novel where the characters come out in the end changed and better for what they've gone through...but, for the most part, I was deprived of that luxury and had to face the fact that a RL court case isn't a place we can go for absolute truth or redemption.
Still...while I sometimes found myself mourning the evilness and selfishness of some people in this world through this case, in the next moment I found myself encouraged and proud of the goodness and compassion of many more people also who filed through the courtroom...
1. Those in the 'entourage' who DID stand up and speak at least most of the truth (thank you)
2 Dr. Tracy Rogers, the forensic anthropologist who testified about the collection of human bone and ash from an incinerator stressed her determination to give the family every tiny piece that she could. "I thought it was important for the family's peace of mind that they have all the remains," she told the jury. Her voice cracked as she spoke and she apologized.After her testimony, Tim Bosma's father Hank followed Rogers out of the courtroom and gave her a hug. (Thank you Dr Rogers and Mr Bosma)
3. Veterinarian Robert Burns who stepped up to testify against his nephew Millard.... and was reported to have smiled and nodded several times to Sharlene Bosma during his testimony. (Thank you for that )
4. The person who spent so many hours putting together the incredibly useful powerpoint presentation on the phones (thank you for your time and diligence)
5. The LE, experts, the neighbours and witnesses who stood up and reported what they saw...who chose to get involved
6. The Bosma army who support the family so faithfully each day
....
I actually could go on and on....and I guess I am just happy now that I can....and thank you all who prove in big and little ways that there is still a LOT of good in this world, lets make sure the next generation can be equally proud
I'm curious why they would have had to have used a coin to attach the licence plates. Why didn't they have the screwdriver they likely used to take them off of the red ram with?
Before the murder, Smich sent a message to Millard saying something like "mission tonight" or "mission this week" and attached an image of outdoor furniture and a grilling sausage. Many people are of opinion that it is a reference to the cremation process and use of the incinerator.
rsbm
Brilliant insight and I can totally imagine this happening as a code signal! Those words do have the ring of truth to them and that's likely why MS is able to communicate that part of the truth effectively. DM announces to TB, "I'm taking the truck". And IMO the sick plan to murder TB was confirmed and then immediately put into action by both DM and MS. Maybe MS felt twitchy and nervous and did literally jump the gun when DM gave the signal and MS shot TB prematurely inside the truck - or - maybe they then both pulled out guns in that moment and shot TB together. In any case, I'm convinced they both knew TB wasn't getting out of that truck alive.
All MOO.
rsbm
Brilliant insight and I can totally imagine this happening as a code signal! Those words do have the ring of truth to them and that's likely why MS is able to communicate that part of the truth effectively. DM announces to TB, "I'm taking the truck". And IMO the sick plan to murder TB was confirmed and then immediately put into action by both DM and MS. Maybe MS felt twitchy and nervous and did literally jump the gun when DM gave the signal and MS shot TB prematurely inside the truck - or - maybe they then both pulled out guns in that moment and shot TB together. In any case, I'm convinced they both knew TB wasn't getting out of that truck alive.
All MOO.