Brad Cooper Pleads Guilty to 2nd Degree Murder of Nancy Cooper

[Madeleine74]

I guess the claim of "tampering" and "railroading" will continue unabated. Even though he fully admitted he did it AND agreed with the state's narrative AND gave up his children. Who willingly does that?

To those who think he "had no choice," that's complete BS. He had every chance. He was given more chances than other defendants get. It was all his choice. 100% his decision, every step of the way. PUT UP OR SHUT UP. Have a new trial and bring in everything you want, guaranteed. Or... there's this other choice...

When push came to shove & Brad could man-up and show the evidence he claimed he had, Brad showed what he was really made of:

and the stuff that comes out of them.

 

[oenophile]

I wish part of the plea deal was immediate deportation upon completion of his sentence, as in, not even one step outside the prison door as a free man.

I'm pretty sure that he will be subjected to immediate deportation upon completion of his sentence.

But, that leads to a legal question I hadn't considered before....

If he is subject to deportation, how would parole work? You cannot monitor parole outside of the country, and he cannot legally remain in the country. I'm guessing that parole isn't really an option, is it?

 

[Tipstaff]

Missed the hearing - anyone know of a link replaying the hearing?

Always knew Brad Cooper was a murder - his deposition was creepy and I never doubted for a minute he killed Nancy. Imagine those that lived and worked with this creep finally hearing it in his own words....and how about the women who had affairs with him? I only wish he got more time in jail.

 

[calgary123]

I wish part of the plea deal was immediate deportation upon completion of his sentence, as in, not even one step outside the prison door as a free man.

Sometimes Canadian citizens convicted in the US are returned to Canada to serve their sentences out. He could be in Canada sooner than we think. He can make application to the Canadian government, and the US won't say no because they'd rather he serve his sentence on another country's dime.

As for those who continue to deny that Brad did it, there's one in every crowd, its just something to accept. There are those who insist 9/11 was an inside job perpetrated by the US government for example.

Brad will be free around the age of 46. I would imagine his family will give him some money to live and then he'll have to obtain a menial job, the kind that doesn't check references or require background searches. His expertise will be stale by the time he's released, and no major company where his skills would be desirable would hire him as a convicted murderer even if he updated-- he wouldn't be welcome on any corporate team.

I kind of doubt he'll move back in with his parents for a while, I doubt his parents want him there first of all because of the "buzz" it would create amongst the community and focus attention on them. Brad will want to go where he won't be noticed the least to try to blend in and re-establish a life.

 

[Madeleine74]

He's not going to serve his sentence in Canada. He committed the crime here, was convicted here, pled guilty here, and will serve here. It will be Canada's problem eventually to deal with him after he's released in whatever way they deal with deported felons.

 

[SStarr33]

Again, why would you even think a murderer should be given back his murder kit? Are the families of other murders given back their weapons of choice? Did the family of the unibomber ask for his bomb making materials back?

Again, what is the law? I like to deal with facts. I have searched for the answer and cannot find info as I would think it would relate to this case.

 

[Hez]

I guess the claim of "tampering" and "railroading" will continue unabated. Even though he fully admitted he did it AND agreed with the state's narrative and gave up his children.

To those who think he "had no choice," that's complete BS. He had every chance. He was given more chances than other defendants get. It was all his choice. 100% his decision, ever step of the way.

When push came to shove & Brad had to man-up and show the evidence he claimed he had, Brad showed what he was really made of

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:goodpost: Let the spin cycle begin! I'm thankful Nancy's daughters will never be subjected to any further emotional damage at the hands of their own father.

 

[gracielee]

Nothing quite as sobering as hearing Brad Cooper, in the flesh, answering YES to the question 'did you murder your wife and dump her body in a ditch on Fielding Drive?' That will forever be available, on tape, for his children to hear in future years. Hopefully, by then, any feelings they may once have had for him will be long forgotten. I'm remembering the testimony of one of the daycare mothers who heard the girls screaming and crying when Brad drove them to daycare. They were just babies, Brad was always working or training for his triathalons. Gone from the home. He didn't want those children nor the responsibility of caring for them, he simply didn't want to have to 'pay for' their care for the next 18 years of his life. What a jerk.

 

[oenophile]

When push came to shove & Brad could man-up and show the evidence he claimed he had, Brad showed what he was really made of:

View attachment 59622 and the stuff that comes out of them.

Eggs? :thinking:

 

[SStarr33]

Nothing quite as sobering as hearing Brad Cooper, in the flesh, answering YES to the question 'did you murder your wife and dump her body in a ditch on Fielding Drive?' That will forever be available, on tape, for his children to hear in future years. Hopefully, by then, any feelings they may once have had for him will be long forgotten. I'm remembering the testimony of one of the daycare mothers who heard the girls screaming and crying when Brad drove them to daycare. They were just babies, Brad was always working or training for his triathalons. Gone from the home. He didn't want those children nor the responsibility of caring for them, he simply didn't want to have to 'pay for' their care for the next 18 years of his life. What a jerk.

Yes and the trial will be available for them to watch so they can make their own decision about his guilt or innocence.

 

[Skittles]

Here's an article on felonies and immigration status:

http://immigration.findlaw.com/deportation-removal/felony-convictions-and-immigration-status.html

 

[Madeleine74]

There is no possible logical conclusion one can make that has any merit when the defendant himself stood up in court and said YES to the question, "do you admit you killed your wife and dumped her body off of Fielding Drive?" He also said YES to agreeing with all the other facts in the case. Then he gave up the children. That is direct evidence: confession by the perp. He did it, he killed her. Despite how confusing the evidence may have seemed (and his defense team did a stellar job of confusing and misleading a lot of people), he searched his own computer the day before, found where he was going to dump her, killed her, and then dumped her. No one planted anything on his computer. No one railroaded him. Nancy was never out running; she was dead long before sunrise. He did it. He said he did it. He swore he was telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth at the beginning of this hearing.

I think it's likely his oldest daughter already knows he killed her mommy. She's old enough to ask questions. Both girls will eventually be able to see that he stood up in court and admitted it and then see their father willingly gave them up. Just like that. Tossed aside in the end. He is well and truly despicable.

Thank goodness those girls were beautifully protected by their mother's family, now their primary family, and always will be.

 

[SStarr33]

There is no possible logical conclusion one can make that has any merit when the defendant himself stood up in court and said YES to the question, "do you admit you killed your wife and dumped her body off of Fielding Drive?" He also said YES to agreeing with all the other facts in the case. That is direct evidence: confession by the perp. He did it, he killed her. Despite how confusing the evidence may have seemed (and his defense team did a stellar job of confusing and misleading a lot of people), he searched his own computer the day before, found where he was going to dump her, killed her, and then dumped her. No one planted anything on his computer. No one railroaded him. Nancy was never out running; she was dead long before sunrise. He did it. He said he did it. He swore he was telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth at the beginning of this hearing.

People confess to crimes they did not commit all the time. Do some research.

 

[Madeleine74]

People confess to crimes they did not commit all the time. Do some research.

Watch the hearing. Brad swore he was telling the truth, the whole truth, when he said he killed his wife and dumped her body. Was he lying?

People who are guilty take deals all the time, just like Brad did. Do some research. Brad still had the option of going to trial and presenting all his digital "evidence" to prove tampering. No one took that away from him. Showing that "evidence," according to his prior attorneys, would have gotten him acquitted. Put up or shut up. Brad had nothing and he knew it. Nothing but innuendos. AND, Brad had that 3825 router in his possession. It was said in the hearing today and Brad agreed that was true. Brad's a coward and he's a killer and that's all he'll ever be.

Why did Brad give up his children? Spin that one.

 

[Hez]

People confess to crimes they did not commit all the time. Do some research.

Oh please, not when they have a shot at re-trial and being acquitted, but I would love to see your research on that. He is guilty, just like he admitted. :jail:

 

[SStarr33]

Watch the hearing. Brad swore he was telling the truth, the whole truth, when he said he killed his wife and dumped her body. Was he lying?

People who are guilty take deals all the time, just like Brad did. Do some research. Brad still had the option of going to trial and presenting all his digital "evidence" to prove tampering. No one took that away from him. Showing that "evidence," according to his prior attorneys, would have gotten him acquitted. Put up or shut up. Brad had nothing and he knew it. Nothing but innuendos. AND, Brad had that 3825 router in his possession. It was said in the hearing today and Brad agreed that was true. Brad's a coward and he's a killer and that's all he'll ever be.

Why did Brad give up his children? Spin that one.

LOL, he has also said he didn't do it--you can't have it both ways. The router is BS because the time does not work for that router.

And I think he gave up his children for their peace of mind. It was a very kind thing to do.

 

[ncsu95]

I must admit, I have really mixed emotions about this.

He admitted that he committed the crime. He also, as part of the plea, gave up his children to be adopted by Nancy's family.

I am still not 100% convinced that he is guilty, but I'm certainly no longer convinced that he is innocent. There are two reasons why I am not 100% convinced that he is guilty. 1) He had incentive to take the deal even if he didn't commit the crime, both for his future and for his kids. 2) There are facts in the case that still do not add up, as I documented earlier.

But, that being said, I have to accept the real probability that he did commit the crime. I cannot imagine an innocent man telling his kids that he killed their mother. And that is what he did.

I was confused about the devices. Why would he want them? They are antiquated now, and in a few years they will be relics. There is something strange there.

Anyway, it is over. The exculpatory evidence is going to bother me for a long time.

But, I am happy for the Rentz's and for the daughters. They are the innocent victims in this whole ordeal, and they can move on with their lives.

Maybe the computer has personal pictures on it. That would be the only thing that would make sense to me.

Anyways, he admitted it, so he is guilty. I do find it "funny" that Gessner expressed his contempt. If it wasn't for Gessner, Cooper would be spending the rest of his life in jail. We should be showing our contempt at Gessner by voting his but out.

 

[SStarr33]

Oh please, not when they have a shot at re-trial and being acquitted, but I would love to see your research on that. He is guilty, just like he admitted. :jail:

Um, sometimes they even confess before the first trial.

 

[borndem]

So who gets the fun job of escorting Brad out of the country in 6-ish years? He was here on a work visa and Cisco dumped him.

What will his immigration status be when he is released from jail -- and will he be given parole?

He obviously had at least a work visa when he was with Cisco, but did he have any other kind of visa? Immigration law is HUGE -- a friend of mine practices imm. law in DC -- I'll definitely have a talk with her when she comes back to Raleigh (a neighbor's daughter).

Below is an article about immigrants with felonies -- they aren't necessarily deported, but they certainly can be. And like someone said earlier, why would he want to stay? And how would he get along? What kind of visa could he get with a murder felony on his record (I'm assuming his earlier visa would be null and void)? Getting work would be tuff, and I don't know whether his parents would be able to support him down here for housing, food, etc., transportation, etc., etc. He did have a couple of friends at the time of his trial, so maybe they could house him for a while... Dunno.

http://immigration.findlaw.com/deportation-removal/felony-convictions-and-immigration-status.html

 

[Hez]

Watch the hearing. Brad swore he was telling the truth, the whole truth, when he said he killed his wife and dumped her body. Was he lying?

People who are guilty take deals all the time, just like Brad did. Do some research. Brad still had the option of going to trial and presenting all his digital "evidence" to prove tampering. No one took that away from him. Showing that "evidence," according to his prior attorneys, would have gotten him acquitted. Put up or shut up. Brad had nothing and he knew it. Nothing but innuendos. AND, Brad had that 3825 router in his possession. It was said in the hearing today and Brad agreed that was true. Brad's a coward and he's a killer and that's all he'll ever be.

Why did Brad give up his children? Spin that one.

:yourock: Brad's supporters are just going to have to accept that he stood up in court under oath and admitted that he strangled Nancy Cooper and dumped her body, and is a (twice) convicted murderer. They don't have to like it I guess.