Brad Cooper Pleads Guilty to 2nd Degree Murder of Nancy Cooper

[ncsu95]

Watch the hearing. Brad swore he was telling the truth, the whole truth, when he said he killed his wife and dumped her body. Was he lying?

People who are guilty take deals all the time, just like Brad did. Do some research. Brad still had the option of going to trial and presenting all his digital "evidence" to prove tampering. No one took that away from him. Showing that "evidence," according to his prior attorneys, would have gotten him acquitted. Put up or shut up. Brad had nothing and he knew it. Nothing but innuendos. AND, Brad had that 3825 router in his possession. It was said in the hearing today and Brad agreed that was true. Brad's a coward and he's a killer and that's all he'll ever be.

Why did Brad give up his children? Spin that one.

Forget guilt or innocence here. Why wouldn't he give us his children here? He has to serve at least another 6-9 years. I doubt very seriously anyone would try to regain custody of teenagers that they haven't lived with for 12-15 years after pleading guilty to killing their mother. And what judge would ever grant that anyways? My guess is the children will confront him one day when they are adults and he is out of prison.

 

[Madeleine74]

LOL, he has also said he didn't do it--you can't have it both ways. The router is BS because the time does not work for that router.

And I think he gave up his children for their peace of mind. It was a very kind thing to do.

BS is the flotsam that continues to be spewed forth to try and twist Brad into some kind fallen hero instead of what he is. He gave up his children willingly, not for them, but for HIM. The 3825 router evidence was coming in to a 2nd trial and he knew it. He knew exactly what Chris Frye found and was going to testify to. He saw the proffer himself in court. Rather than do exactly what all his fans wanted him to do -- show his stuff in court, he folded. He was bluffing and gave up.

He signed on the dotted line claiming he did kill his wife and dump her body, and no one can claim he had no choice. He had every choice. He had a new trial in the palm of his hand.

 

[SStarr33]

:yourock: Brad's supporters are just going to have to accept that he stood up in court under oath and admitted that he strangled Nancy Cooper and dumped her body, and is a (twice) convicted murderer. They don't have to like it I guess.

What I don't like is all of the lying that the State did in this case which they continued in this hearing. If you are going to win, do it fair and square, no spin allowed. That people on this site condone lying by prosecutors is just unbelievable to me.

 

[SStarr33]

BS is the flotsam that continues to be spewed forth to try and twist Brad into some kind fallen hero instead of what he is. He gave up his children willingly, not for them, but for HIM. The 3825 router evidence was coming in to a 2nd trial and he knew it. He knew exactly what Chris Frye found and was going to testify to. He saw the proffer himself in court.

He signed on the dotted line claiming he did kill his wife and dump her body, and no one can claim he had no choice. He had every choice. He had a new trial in the palm of his hand.

You are wrong on the router. Review the trial. The time DID NOT work, not to mention that the router was huge and would not have fit in the area they implied he had it.

If the State really felt he murdered Nancy, they should NEVER have given him a plea to 2nd degree as their "story" of the murder was clearly first degree.

Flotsam indeed!!

 

[Madeleine74]

You are wrong on the router. Review the trial. The time DID NOT work, not to mention that the router was huge and would not have fit in the area they implied he had it.

If the State really felt he murdered Nancy, they should NEVER have given him a plea to 2nd degree as their "story" of the murder was clearly first degree.

Flotsam indeed!!

You can spin and spin and spin.

Brad said he did it. He admitted it in open court. He signed a document that said it and then verbally admitted it in court. His choice. Dumped his wife like trash. That's it. End of story. He knew exactly what he was doing and he knew exactly what he was agreeing to that happened. He even admitted the state had enough evidence to convict him.

 

[calgary123]

He's not going to serve his sentence in Canada. He committed the crime here, was convicted here, pled guilty here, and will serve here. It will be Canada's problem eventually to deal with him after he's released in whatever way they deal with deported felons.

It does happen regularly between Canada and the US actually. Here is the link discussing the treaty: http://travel.gc.ca/travelling/publ...adians-imprisoned-abroad##transferofoffenders

This became a big deal in the news here recently, look up Omar Khadr.

 

[Boodles]

He did have a new trial in the palm of his hand. And he had the benefit of knowing the prosecution's case from A-Z. The prosecution also disclosed to him additional evidence it was going to introduce in a next trial, if it was to be held. Armed with that, BC made a choice. A smart one, IMO.

I don't view him as a victim or martyr. He's just another wife-killing murderer. He's getting off so easy. He's fortunate that Nancy's parents are more concerned about the children than with vengeance.

 

[SStarr33]

You can spin and spin and spin.

Brad said he did it. He admitted it in open court. He signed a document that said it and then verbally admitted it in court. His choice. Dumped his wife like trash. That's it. End of story. He knew exactly what he was doing and he knew exactly what he was agreeing to that happened. He even admitted the state had enough evidence to convict him.

The State lied to get their conviction--it is what it is. Hopefully you or someone you love will not be falsely accused and have lies said about them in a trial. But sometimes it takes that experience to learn.

No surprise you won't address the fact that the router story is BS and he admitted what he admitted to get out of the hell hole that is the legal system in NC.

 

[SStarr33]

My favorite part of the hearing was when he congratulated the CPD on a job well done.

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[Madeleine74]

It does happen regularly between Canada and the US actually. Here is the link discussing the treaty: http://travel.gc.ca/travelling/publ...adians-imprisoned-abroad##transferofoffenders

This became a big deal in the news here recently, look up Omar Khadr.

I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I'm saying in this particular case he's going to serve his time as a ward of the DOC in North Carolina.

 

[oenophile]

Maybe the computer has personal pictures on it. That would be the only thing that would make sense to me.

They already got a copy of the hard drive as part of the original trial discovery. That should have all the data on it. There isn't really a reason to have the computer.

 

[Madeleine74]

The State lied to get their conviction--it is what it is. Hopefully you or someone you love will not be falsely accused and have lies said about them in a trial. But sometimes it takes that experience to learn.

No surprise you won't address the fact that the router story is BS and he admitted what he admitted to get out of the hell hole that is the legal system in NC.

Prove the router story is BS. Go ahead. If you can. The proffer by Frye is in evidence. It exists and it's real. Brad was on that router at 10:21pm on 7/11/08 in his own house, connected directly to that very router. The MAC ID left its calling card in his Windows System Event log, discovered by Chris Frye. Those are the facts and that's exactly what was in the proffer in 2011 and it's what Frye would have said on the stand had Brad gone to a 2nd trial.

The only BS is that which is being spewed to desperately try and spin what Brad actually admitted to this morning. He's guilty.

 

[calgary123]

The State lied to get their conviction--it is what it is. Hopefully you or someone you love will not be falsely accused and have lies said about them in a trial. But sometimes it takes that experience to learn.

No surprise you won't address the fact that the router story is BS and he admitted what he admitted to get out of the hell hole that is the legal system in NC.

The problem with this argument is, at the first trial Brad had full disclosure of the State's case, and put up a bunch of garbage to try to mess with the technical evidence, and he got lucky by having a judge who didn't understand what was going on.

This second time, he'd have the ability to do an even better job with his own experts who can fully watch the State's case from before to know exactly how they're going to present it. If there was a way to raise doubt in the state's evidence a second time around, Brad would have done it. I think what is more likely is that they consulted further experts, "real" experts, the best of the best, and they wouldn't be able to give the testimony Brad needs. If he was able to get the expert testimony he needed, he pleads not guilty and he's out next year with a clear record--- even if he did it.

 

[Boodles]

Did I hear correctly that BC's monthly gross income was $17k?

 

[SStarr33]

The problem with this argument is, at the first trial Brad had full disclosure of the State's case, and put up a bunch of garbage to try to mess with the technical evidence, and he got lucky by having a judge who didn't understand what was going on.

This second time, he'd have the ability to do an even better job with his own experts who can fully watch the State's case from before to know exactly how they're going to present it. If there was a way to raise doubt in the state's evidence a second time around, Brad would have done it. I think what is more likely is that they consulted further experts, "real" experts, the best of the best, and they wouldn't be able to give the testimony Brad needs. If he was able to get the expert testimony he needed, he pleads not guilty and he's out next year with a clear record--- even if he did it.

Um, the State must not be too comfortable with their evidence which (according to them) shows murder in the FIRST DEGREE. Such BS.

 

[SStarr33]

Prove the router story is BS. Go ahead. If you can. The proffer by Frye is in evidence. It exists and it's real. Brad was on that router at 10:21pm on 7/11/08 in his own house, connected directly to that very router. The MAC ID left its calling card in his Windows System Event log, discovered by Chris Frye. Those are the facts and that's exactly what was in the proffer in 2011 and it's what Frye would have said on the stand had Brad gone to a 2nd trial.

The only BS is that which is being spewed to desperately try and spin what Brad actually admitted to this morning. He's guilty.

Um, it was proved in the trial. The max time is 23 seconds and the call was longer than that.

 

[calgary123]

Um, the State must not be too comfortable with their evidence which (according to them) shows murder in the FIRST DEGREE. Such BS.

Its called mercy, something Brad didn't give to Nancy. Also the family didn't want to go through another trial, and didn't see the need to have him kept in jail until he is dead.

 

[borndem]

Convicted felons have no right to their personal property?? Since when?

They are certainly not allowed to have telephones -- that is an "A" (the worst) violation in the NC prison system, and a prisoner loses his phone, of course, and is usually given punishment of 30--90 days of isolation (23 hours in cell, 2 hours in excercise pen). Prisoners are not allowed to have computers in their cells, either -- another serious offense, carrying same punishment.

No way prisoners are allowed these types of items -- think about it -- all types of plans could be arranged if a prisoner has unlimited access to anyone outside of prison.

The following is from the inmate handbook -- an "A" violation is the worst type

(A16) Possess or use in any manner any type of unauthorized recording or image taking device
or any type of unauthorized communication device
whether audio, video, or data. Examples
include but are not limited to cell phones, personal digital assistants, cameras, tape recorders or digital recorders that can be used to send and/or receive any type of messages/images for any purpose;


from: http://www.doc.state.nc.us/publications/inmate rule book.pdf

 

[SStarr33]

Its called mercy, something Brad didn't give to Nancy. Also the family didn't want to go through another trial, and didn't see the need to have him kept in jail until he is dead.

Mercy?? That is hilarious. They LIED to get him convicted.

 

[oenophile]

Just rewatched part of the plea, and something bothered me. The judge chastised Brad for giving up his children in exchange for a year of incarceration. It sounds to me like Brad wasn't willing to let the children be adopted, but agreed in exchange for a one year reduction on the sentence. Did I hear that properly?