By Accident Or On Purpose Who Killed JonBenet Ramsey?

[BOESP]

Ropes may have been used to control JonBenet during the "corporal cleansing" mentioned by Steve Thomas in his book.

Years ago when studying the warrants used to collect evidence, my active imagination wondered if JonBenet could have been trussed and hoisted above a Christmas tree in order to make her appear to be an angel. The corner brick taken into evidence along with one or more Christmas ornaments suggested she could have fallen onto the hearth while posing for a photo as a Christmas angel.

 

[Miz Adventure]

Ropes may have been used to control JonBenet during the "corporal cleansing" mentioned by Steve Thomas in his book.

Years ago when studying the warrants used to collect evidence, my active imagination wondered if JonBenet could have been trussed and hoisted above a Christmas tree in order to make her appear to be an angel. The corner brick taken into evidence along with one or more Christmas ornaments suggested she could have fallen onto the hearth while posing for a photo as a Christmas angel.

you certainly do have an active imagination.

 

[UKGuy]

Ropes may have been used to control JonBenet during the "corporal cleansing" mentioned by Steve Thomas in his book.

Years ago when studying the warrants used to collect evidence, my active imagination wondered if JonBenet could have been trussed and hoisted above a Christmas tree in order to make her appear to be an angel. The corner brick taken into evidence along with one or more Christmas ornaments suggested she could have fallen onto the hearth while posing for a photo as a Christmas angel.

BOESP,
Yes siree, you get 10 out of 10 for imagination. You score eleven if you can say why it never ever happened?

Hint: Ramsey Video.

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[Miz Adventure]

Ropes may have been used to control JonBenet during the "corporal cleansing" mentioned by Steve Thomas in his book.

Years ago when studying the warrants used to collect evidence, my active imagination wondered if JonBenet could have been trussed and hoisted above a Christmas tree in order to make her appear to be an angel. The corner brick taken into evidence along with one or more Christmas ornaments suggested she could have fallen onto the hearth while posing for a photo as a Christmas angel.

This one gets my vote for being the most Bizarre Post of the Year (so far).

 

[kanzz]

If JDI, the head blow was intended to cause death in order to keep JonBenet quiet about molestation.
If PDI, the head blow was a rage incident not meant to cause death but ended up resulting in death.
If BDI, the head blow was most likely a rage incident not intended to cause death but resulting in death.

The only scenario of the three where strangulation is not necessarily part of the cover-up is probably BDI. It is possible, as Kolar believes, that the rope may have been used before that night as some sort of sexual play device.

BBM
If Kolar put forth that premise, I've forgotten it. I've searched FF and can't find that reference. For some reason, I thought that was someone else's theory.

 

[BOESP]

This one gets my vote for being the most Bizarre Post of the Year (so far).

Which part of the post wins your award? Steve Thomas definitely stated in his book that his theory was corporal punishment that got out of hand. The other part of the post was clearly stated that it was a theory I had many years ago (like 15+ years).

Don't know really how to take your post but I assume you do know that a corner brick and angel ornaments from a Christmas tree were taken into evidence?

 

[Miz Adventure]

Which part of the post wins your award? Steve Thomas definitely stated in his book that his theory was corporal punishment that got out of hand. The other part of the post was clearly stated that it was a theory I had many years ago (like 15+ years).

Don't know really how to take your post but I assume you do know that a corner brick and angel ornaments from a Christmas tree were taken into evidence?

Which part? All of it.

The book written by ST was the first one that I read about the case and because he was a detective on the case I tended to think he must know something.

However, since reading other books on this case I have changed my mind.

Parts of ST's theory never sat right with me. The part that has PR strangling her daughter to death, for instance.

If you put BR into the equation it makes a huge amount MORE sense. The parents covering up the crime in order to save him - that makes sense too.

I can't help but wonder if ST was interviewed today - and was able to talk honestly without fear of getting sued - he might tell us that he now believes he was wrong and that BR was actually the killer.

Jmo.

 

[BBB167893]

Which part? All of it.

The book written by ST was the first one that I read about the case and because he was a detective on the case I tended to think he must know something.

However, since reading other books on this case I have changed my mind.

Parts of ST's theory never sat right with me. The part that has PR strangling her daughter to death, for instance.

If you put BR into the equation it makes a huge amount MORE sense. The parents covering up the crime in order to save him - that makes sense too.

I can't help but wonder if ST was interviewed today - and was able to talk honestly without fear of getting sued - he might tell us that he now believes he was wrong and that BR was actually the killer.

Jmo.

If memory serves, he and Jim Kolar did a blogtalkradio episode back in 2012, and he didn't back off then.

 

[Miz Adventure]

If memory serves, he and Jim Kolar did a blogtalkradio episode back in 2012, and he didn't back off then.

Well he's not likely to back off from his theory is he - not at this late stage? He got sued the last time he made an accusation against the Ramseys. Once bitten twice shy?

 

[andreww]

Well he's not likely to back off from his theory is he - not at this late stage? He got sued the last time he made an accusation against the Ramseys. Once bitten twice shy?

When did Kolar ever get sued? Thomas did, and John recently said that they didn't sue Kolar because the book didn't do well and he didn't want to draw attention to it.

 

[Miz Adventure]

I'm not sure Kolar ever laid it on the line (in his book) and stated exactly WHO he thought was responsible. He sort of hedged around it.

 

[Tadpole12]

If memory serves, he and Jim Kolar did a blogtalkradio episode back in 2012, and he didn't back off then.

Heyya SD

Oh, I don't remember that.

If you're able to remember the specifics,
please refresh my memory.

 

[Cranberry]

Tad, here is a radio show from 12.24.12 - not sure if this is the one SuperDave mentioned...(if link doesn't work look on page 17)

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websleuths/2012/12/24/websleuths-radio

 

[BBB167893]

Well he's not likely to back off from his theory is he - not at this late stage? He got sued the last time he made an accusation against the Ramseys. Once bitten twice shy?

I doubt anyone is willing to back off now.

 

[BBB167893]

Tad, here is a radio show from 12.24.12 - not sure if this is the one SuperDave mentioned...(if link doesn't work look on page 17)

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websleuths/2012/12/24/websleuths-radio

That's the one!

 

[Tssiemer]

I'm wondering, could the skull fracture be caused by a fall? Like down the stairs or off the second floor or something?


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[Miz Adventure]

I'm wondering, could the skull fracture be caused by a fall? Like down the stairs or off the second floor or something?


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I think that's unlikely. It has been discussed over the years but the theory doesn't seem to work.

I'm no doctor but I would have thought that if somebody fell downstairs they would be more likely to break their neck if they fell on their head enough to crack the skull.

 

[BBB167893]

I'm wondering, could the skull fracture be caused by a fall? Like down the stairs or off the second floor or something?


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It's possible.

 

[neesaki]

It's possible.

Well, maybe pushed down the stairs.But it still sounds more like a blunt trauma injury due to a bash on the head. jmo

 

[BBB167893]

Well, maybe pushed down the stairs.But it still sounds more like a blunt trauma injury due to a bash on the head. jmo

Like I said: possible. I wouldn't hang my hat on it. (That was a poor choice of words.)