CA - Bakersfield 3: Disappearance of Baylee Despot and murders of James Kulstad & Micah Holsonbake

[margarita25]

Can you think of any major cases where the killer or killers dumped body pieces in different or seperate locations around a town or city?

Yes. We have seen dismemberments where body parts were scattered at multiple locations.

Also, ARS who killed Jessica dumped her torso but kept her head and hands his crawl space.

Ashley Mead:
Boulder mother dismembered, remains scattered

BPD needs help finding remains of Boulder mom

“They believe her body was at least partially dismembered outside of Shreveport, Louisiana. Officers located part of her body in a dumpster in Oklahoma, not far from where police arrested Adam Densmore, 32, and recovered the couple's 13-month-old child.

Police say they believe Mead's body parts could be strewn across the nation in communities through which the suspect traveled.”

WS Link:
GUILTY - CO - Ashley Mead, 25, & daughter (fnd safe), 1, Boulder, 12 Feb 2017 *Arrest*

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Zahra's body 'dismembered, scattered'

“AUSTRALIAN girl Zahra Baker was dismembered and her remains scattered at different sites, according to court papers filed by lawyers representing her American stepmother.”

WS Link:
Zahra Baker MEDIA links only **NO DISCUSSION**

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Dismembered body found scattered in New York City park ID'd as 26-year-old woman, police say

“Odom’s arms and legs were located in the park Tuesday, about a half-mile from where her torso was initially found.”

WS Link:
Identified! - NY - Female torso and body parts found, Brooklyn Park, 09 Apr 2018 *Brandy Odom*

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Dismembered Remains Identified as Missing Pennsylvania Woman

“SWIFTWATER, Pa. – A severed head and other dismembered remains found stuffed in trashed bags and scattered along Pocono Mountain highways have been identified as those of a missing woman, state police said Monday.“

WS Link:
GUILTY - PA - Deanna Null, 36, found dismembered, Monroe County, 18 Jan 2008

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Sydney Loofe (al though her remains were scattered in a general location):

She went on a Tinder date. She ended up dismembered, police say.

“Court documents say Bailey Boswell and Aubrey Trail dismembered Sydney Loofe's body and disposed it in several garbage bags in Clay County.”

WS Link:
Found Deceased - NE - Sydney Loofe, 24, Lincoln, 15 Nov 2017 #1

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“Velasquez's body parts were discovered over the course of two weeks in late August in both Barretto Point Park and Crotona Park.”

Funeral held for woman found dismembered in Bronx parks

WS Link:
Identified! - NY - Bronx, Female body parts, Crotona Park, 23 Aug 2018 *Lisa Marie Velasquez* *ARRESTS*

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“A US tourist has been arrested in Japan after a local woman he met through a dating app went missing earlier this month, her body believed to have been dismembered and scattered across several locations in western Japan, according to media.”

US tourist arrested after woman dismembered in Japan: Media

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“Detectives were led to an undisclosed location in Verona, where they discovered the torso and some dismembered leg parts of a white man wrapped up and discarded in a field. They also learned the missing body parts had supposedly been disposed of in a dumpster at the Super 8 motel on Dream Street in Florence.“

Snip

“In addition, Scheben also said they aren't ruling out other parts of the victim being located in other areas of Northern Kentucky.”

Sheriff: Murder suspects dismembered body to 'target evil'

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The list goes on and on...

 

[bakersfield3]

Yes. I will have to think about it to remember specifically which ones. I’m sure others can chime in here as well but absolutely the answer is a strong yes. We have seen dismemberments where body parts were scattered at multiple locations. Let me get back to you on that one.

Also, ARS who killed Jessica dumped her torso but kept her head and hands his crawl space.

Yeah I remember parts of that case, but not all the details involving Jessica.

 

[margarita25]

Yeah I remember parts of that case, but not all the details involving Jessica.

( I have edited my above post to add some cases.)

 

[bakersfield3]

( I have edited my above post to include a case. Adding some others in progress.)

Thanks.

 

[bakersfield3]

Yes. We have seen dismemberments where body parts were scattered at multiple locations.

Also, ARS who killed Jessica dumped her torso but kept her head and hands his crawl space.

Ashley Mead:
Boulder mother dismembered, remains scattered

BPD needs help finding remains of Boulder mom

“They believe her body was at least partially dismembered outside of Shreveport, Louisiana. Officers located part of her body in a dumpster in Oklahoma, not far from where police arrested Adam Densmore, 32, and recovered the couple's 13-month-old child.

Police say they believe Mead's body parts could be strewn across the nation in communities through which the suspect traveled.”

WS Link:
GUILTY - CO - Ashley Mead, 25, & daughter (fnd safe), 1, Boulder, 12 Feb 2017 *Arrest*

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Zahra's body 'dismembered, scattered'

“AUSTRALIAN girl Zahra Baker was dismembered and her remains scattered at different sites, according to court papers filed by lawyers representing her American stepmother.”

WS Link:
Zahra Baker MEDIA links only **NO DISCUSSION**

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Dismembered body found scattered in New York City park ID'd as 26-year-old woman, police say

“Odom’s arms and legs were located in the park Tuesday, about a half-mile from where her torso was initially found.”

WS Link:
Identified! - NY - Female torso and body parts found, Brooklyn Park, 09 Apr 2018 *Brandy Odom*

—-

Dismembered Remains Identified as Missing Pennsylvania Woman

“SWIFTWATER, Pa. – A severed head and other dismembered remains found stuffed in trashed bags and scattered along Pocono Mountain highways have been identified as those of a missing woman, state police said Monday.“

WS Link:
GUILTY - PA - Deanna Null, 36, found dismembered, Monroe County, 18 Jan 2008

—-

Sydney Loofe (al though her remains were scattered in a general location):

She went on a Tinder date. She ended up dismembered, police say.

“Court documents say Bailey Boswell and Aubrey Trail dismembered Sydney Loofe's body and disposed it in several garbage bags in Clay County.”

WS Link:
Found Deceased - NE - Sydney Loofe, 24, Lincoln, 15 Nov 2017 #1

—-

“Velasquez's body parts were discovered over the course of two weeks in late August in both Barretto Point Park and Crotona Park.”

Funeral held for woman found dismembered in Bronx parks

WS Link:
Identified! - NY - Bronx, Female body parts, Crotona Park, 23 Aug 2018 *Lisa Marie Velasquez* *ARRESTS*

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“A US tourist has been arrested in Japan after a local woman he met through a dating app went missing earlier this month, her body believed to have been dismembered and scattered across several locations in western Japan, according to media.”

US tourist arrested after woman dismembered in Japan: Media

—-

“Detectives were led to an undisclosed location in Verona, where they discovered the torso and some dismembered leg parts of a white man wrapped up and discarded in a field. They also learned the missing body parts had supposedly been disposed of in a dumpster at the Super 8 motel on Dream Street in Florence.“

Snip

“In addition, Scheben also said they aren't ruling out other parts of the victim being located in other areas of Northern Kentucky.”

Sheriff: Murder suspects dismembered body to 'target evil'

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The list goes on and on...

What is the pysche of a person that scatters vs choosing one location for a dump?

 

[Jennifer17]

Can you think of any major cases where the killer or killers dumped body pieces in different or seperate locations around a town or city?

Didn't Zahra Baker's stepmother dump her dismembered body in different locations? Even her prosthetic leg. I am sure that I have read of others too.

 

[Jennifer17]

What is the pysche of a person that scatters vs choosing one location for a dump?

They must think that the person will not be identified if they only find part of.

 

[bakersfield3]

They must think that the person will not be identified if they only find part of.

Yeah understand that part. But is it pre-planned or spur of the moment thing after the victim is killed.

 

[Jennifer17]

Yeah understand that part. But is it pre-planned or spur of the moment thing after the victim is killed.

My mind won't go there. I don't have any experience with evil and brutality like that.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Stories behind the Bakersfield 3

“His mother, Cheryl Holsonbake said, "He talked a lot about being concerned that people were going to hurt him. He was afraid, felt like he needed to defend himself."”

Snip

“A sheriff's office search warrant from June revealed detectives were investigating Queen, Despot, Holsonbake and three others for allegedly manufacturing and selling illegal guns.

"The stuff they were involved in, these people know. They all know each other. It's a big circle of criminal activity over here in Rosedale," Parrent said.“

What did I just read? No wonder op thinks its connected. Because it seems like that here. Thanks Magz.

 

[bakersfield3]

My mind won't go there. I don't have any experience with evil and brutality like that.

I was looking for more cases that might go into the motive side of things

What did I just read? No wonder op thinks its connected. Because it seems like that here. Thanks Magz.

Parents have said that from the beginning once they formulated their children knew of each other. That has been in previous news articles and previous news media reports.

 

[DexterMorgan]

I was looking for more cases that might go into the motive side of things


Parents have said that from the beginning once they formulated their children knew of each other. That has been in previous news articles and previous news media reports.

Okay. Thanks. Meth addicts may dismember a body also for easier concealment before the body dump. Plus scaterring the body parts helps confuse the crime scene location area. Jmo

 

[bakersfield3]

Okay. Thanks. Meth addicts may dismember a body also for easier concealment before the body dump. Plus scaterring the body parts helps confuse the crime scene location area. Jmo

Why just meth addicts or how did you come up with that?

 

[DexterMorgan]

Why just meth addicts or how did you come up with that?

I said may. Or a possible could be. Im near Visalia and truly hope you folks get the answers you are looking for. I feel sorry for the family and loved ones.

 

[bakersfield3]

I said may. Or a possible could be. Im near Visalia and truly hope you folks get the answers you are looking for. I feel sorry for the family and loved ones.

Trying to understand the angle your using by incorporating Meth into the conversation. Are you saying they are likey out of their mind under the influence of drugs?

 

[margarita25]

( Re: meth and dismemberment, looking for some case references:

“Shortly after the arrests, investigators said Bridges confessed to choking, stabbing and dismembering Stone, but he is now saying details of his statement were incorrect because he was high on meth and trying to protect his mother at the time he gave it.“

'Meth took over' - Teen, mother recount grisly murder

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Defendant denies any involvement in 2015 Newman Lake murder and dismemberment

“With each question asked by his attorney Joe Kuhlman, he’d lean forward from the witness chair and speak clearly into the microphone during his murder trial. With some regret, he told the jury how he’d stay up for days while high on meth. Or how hard it could be to wake him after a particular week-long drug-fueled bender. Or how he would sell meth - sometimes to single mothers.

But when it came to the accusations of kidnap and murder, specifically his alleged involvement in the beating and dismembering of 32-year-old Bret Snow at a Newman Lake garage in early December 2015, he was steadfast: he had nothing to do with it.“

Defendant denies any involvement in 2015 Newman Lake murder and dismemberment

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Drugs, dismemberment led 'great kid' Scott Dozier to Nevada's death row

“Inside that Dumpster, inside a suitcase, was the decapitated, dismembered body of Jeremiah Miller.”

Snip

“But he was also deep into the methamphetamine world, with a rap sheet that would later include a second murder conviction linked to drugs, and with what one psychologist described as a personality disorder and narcissistic tendencies. Clark County prosecutors successfully made the case that the down-and-out Dozier killed Miller for $12,000 the victim had brought to Vegas to buy meth-making supplies and then used the money to buy a camcorder from Best Buy and shower girlfriends with gifts.“

Drugs, dismemberment led 'great kid' Scott Dozier to Nevada's death row )

 

[margarita25]

I don’t think it’s a leap to say this likely revolves around their illegal weapons dealings, moo.

(Quote for reference:

““A sheriff's office search warrant from June revealed detectives were investigating Queen, Despot, Holsonbake and three others for allegedly manufacturing and selling illegal guns.

"The stuff they were involved in, these people know. They all know each other. It's a big circle of criminal activity over here in Rosedale," Parrent said.““

Stories behind the Bakersfield 3 )

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Yeah understand that part. But is it pre-planned or spur of the moment thing after the victim is killed.

This is a good question. I’m sure it goes both ways as do other crimes, moo.

 

[margarita25]

Cartels dismember a lot.

 

[bakersfield3]

( Re: meth and dismemberment, looking for some case references:

“Shortly after the arrests, investigators said Bridges confessed to choking, stabbing and dismembering Stone, but he is now saying details of his statement were incorrect because he was high on meth and trying to protect his mother at the time he gave it.“

'Meth took over' - Teen, mother recount grisly murder

Snip

Defendant denies any involvement in 2015 Newman Lake murder and dismemberment

“With each question asked by his attorney Joe Kuhlman, he’d lean forward from the witness chair and speak clearly into the microphone during his murder trial. With some regret, he told the jury how he’d stay up for days while high on meth. Or how hard it could be to wake him after a particular week-long drug-fueled bender. Or how he would sell meth - sometimes to single mothers.

But when it came to the accusations of kidnap and murder, specifically his alleged involvement in the beating and dismembering of 32-year-old Bret Snow at a Newman Lake garage in early December 2015, he was steadfast: he had nothing to do with it.“

Defendant denies any involvement in 2015 Newman Lake murder and dismemberment )

I thought maybe this was the angle makes sense to me as a theory espesically if the person or persons were drug users. But if not they have to be borderline sadistic.

 

[bakersfield3]

Cartels dismember a lot.

Very true but are we dealing with someone who is done this before or a first time offender?