gossheather77
Dogmom77
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No worries! We don't want to get the thread shut down
Absolutely not! I've followed this story about BT from the beginning and just wish she would be found
No worries! We don't want to get the thread shut down
With regard to estimated distances and times, I'm not taking anything RT said (or is paraphrased as having said) literally. He may have been mistaken. He may be a poor judge when estimating such things.I keep wondering, if she simply got turned around when heading back to the RV then why didn't she call out to RT when she realized she was lost. IIRC (according to RT) she was five minutes ahead of him.
With regard to estimated distances and times, I'm not taking anything RT said (or is paraphrased as having said) literally. He may have been mistaken. He may be a poor judge when estimating such things.
He may also have minimised the time between her leaving and him following - people tend to do that if they feel they might be criticised. It may well have been more like ten minutes if he decided to take more photos, or even longer.
I don't think there is any indication that she was getting tired of hiking or camping or that her love of nature had diminished.What if BT had become tired of the "hiking the desert" lifestyle? The 'collecting rocks and placing them in a pile in the backyard' hobby? The having to leave behind her precious fur baby every time she had to go on a 'hike'?
Is it possible she decided to leave that all behind; hopped a bus to somewhere, never to be seen nor heard from again? Would BT accept how her 'disappearance' might affect her family?
Was there something in the air that gave hint that BT was tiring of the entire situation? Makes me wonder why RT was so quick to cancel BT's Hong Kong trip tickets.
Could BT have actually made it to HK, site unseen (read: unrecognized, but was anyone, i.e., local LE there, actually looking?) and is living the rest of her life with her HK family?
Why not...?
I would imagine RT did not care for Matt either, given the problems he apparently caused his mother.I don’t recall that it was directly said, however, my impression was that Matt did not care for RT. JMO.
I don't think there is any indication that she was getting tired of hiking or camping or that her love of nature had diminished.
That is apparently one of the things they had in common and likely what attracted them to each other.
I don't think there is any way she is in HK with her family. They would not be trying so hard to find her if she was.
Imo
bbm
What would you expect to see as 'indication'? BT isn't here to reveal her inner-most thoughts, maybe thoughts she would not want to reveal to anyone except the remotest of family? Who knows.
Common like, perhaps. But if that common like morphed in to something the other never envisioned it to be, such as having become a matter-of-course, routine, doing it only a certain person's way and more often and with conditions not agreeable over the long run?
We don't know... but it's on the table.
Exactly what is it the HK family is doing?
I meant from everything we have heard and the information the VI has given I did not get the idea that Barbara was getting tired of camping and hiking. It was something she loved doing all her life, or at least since he has known her, so it doesn't seem likely she would suddenly stop enjoying it.bbm
What would you expect to see as 'indication'? BT isn't here to reveal her inner-most thoughts, maybe thoughts she would not want to reveal to anyone except the remotest of family? Who knows.
Common like, perhaps. But if that common like morphed in to something the other never envisioned it to be, such as having become a matter-of-course, routine, doing it only a certain person's way and more often and with conditions not agreeable over the long run?
We don't know... but it's on the table.
Exactly what is it the HK family is doing?
Alright, BT is not in the HK. That doesn't mean she couldn't have hopped transportation (whether it be via bus or a supportive friend) and took off to regions unknown.I meant from everything we have heard and the information the VI has given I did not get the idea that Barbara was getting tired of camping and hiking. It was something she loved doing all her life, or at least since he has known her, so it doesn't seem likely she would suddenly stop enjoying it.
The family has been speaking to LE from the beginning and they feel certain there is foul play involved.
In a recent post I mentioned that they are considering pursuing other avenues if LE does not find anything in their investigation. The VI has said he plans to go to the area himself in the coming months.
Why would they be so desperate to find her, to the point of taking actions themselves to solve the case and find out what happened to Barbara if she was in HK with them?
The VI has said he is certain she is not in HK. He hoped she would turn up, but that has not happened.
Imo
As a big dog lover myself, I dont think she would have left Lexi somehow. Also, she has a good relationship with her brother and family in HK. I dont think she'd allow them to suffer. JMOAlright, BT is not in the HK. That doesn't mean she couldn't have hopped transportation (whether it be via bus or a supportive friend) and took off to regions unknown.
It is possible.
Alright, BT is not in the HK. That doesn't mean she couldn't have hopped transportation (whether it be via bus or a supportive friend) and took off to regions unknown.
It is possible.
Yes, of course anything is possible, I just don't think that's what happened.Alright, BT is not in the HK. That doesn't mean she couldn't have hopped transportation (whether it be via bus or a supportive friend) and took off to regions unknown.
It is possible.
More and more they are using drones.. It has gone from a toy to a tool..I'm surprised they don't use drones regularly, even the day she was missing. You can spot people very well on them. They could have spotted her walking around that day!
bbm sbmI don't think there is any indication that she was getting tired of hiking or camping or that her love of nature had diminished. ....
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What would you expect to see as 'indication'? BT isn't here to reveal her inner-most thoughts, maybe thoughts she would not want to reveal to anyone except the remotest of family? Who knows.
Common like, perhaps. But if that common like morphed in to something the other never envisioned it to be, such as having become a matter-of-course, routine, doing it only a certain person's way and more often and with conditions not agreeable over the long run? We don't know... but it's on the table....
Cactus & Outdoor Recreation
@LietKynes sbm
For those who have never had Close-Encounters-of-the-Cholla-Kind, lemme tell ya.
W fleshy parts of cholla 'flicked off' unfortunately the worst is not over. Vid ^ shown on larger-than-phone screen shows big spines still protruding from the bicycler's skin. They get embedded but can be pulled out. After that there still remain almost invisible hairy barbs that try the patience of Job to remove, or at least bright light, magnifier, and tweezers. Usu some swearing too. Then the Lanocaine to treat the residual rashy, itchy, scratchy feeling.
Having lived in SW'ern desert for several yrs, seems likely BT had some exposure to cactus. Maybe from prior swimwear-clad walks, she knew hiking boots were sufficient, if she was careful about where she walked and if the trail/path was wide its whole length. IDK, I just can't imagine. All jmo.
@LAhiker bbm Thanks for your post, as apparently you heard right, and recommendation was on target. Wish I would have known a few years back. At the time(s) [yes, plural] I did not think to ask my buddy wiki, who endorsed your post and backed it up w an honest to goodness medical study.*I agree that BT would have known that cactus spines are to be avoided. Regarding getting those tiny fine cactus spines out (in some species the fine spines are called "glochids") I've heard that white glue (such as Elmer's) can be helpful. You put on some glue, let it dry thoroughly, and then pull it off. Apparently most of the glochids will come with it. Repeat as needed. JMO