CA - Christopher Dorner kills 4 in tri-county rampage, Feb 2013 - #2

[Voice4theSilent]

the truck was found on the ridge looking at the Bear Mtn slopes. w/ binoculars or a scope on his weapon it would be like he was standing right in front of whoever he's interested in, whether they were in the parking lot or waiting in line for cocoa or getting their lift ticket attached

most of the chatter re activity/searches was in areas directly below the road in question, which runs between Bear Mtn and Snow Summit and a bit further west as well. there was particular interest in neighborhoods directly below Snow Summit and Bear Mtn, and also in neighborhoods directly below the west end of the road. LE wasn't looking from one end of the valley to the other, or looking way over here for awhile and then way over there for awhile. it was all about a very small area. the road in question is also the only off-road access down the back/south side of the mtn, about 4 miles to a major hwy leading down to the flatlands

So the thought was that he was going to Big Bear to target specific skiers not just random police officer who might just happen to be skiing that day? That makes more sense though it seems to me that if LE felt that way they would have definitely shut down the mountain until he was captured or they felt he was no longer in the area. Also, I doubt if you were a targeted LE officer or family member you would go skiing knowing you were in harm (they were already aware of the threat.)

 

[JBean]

Wow! He possibly made taunting phone call?
http://news.yahoo.com/taunting-phone-call-part-ex-cop-dorner-probe-193639786.html

They just cannot confirm it was him. I think it "originated" in Vancouver,Washington- but presumably that was just a diverted phone call or a toss away from that area. iOW< they are having trouble tying it to him directly or gleaning clues from it.

 

[CJMAJORGIRL24]

Tweets from a long beach reporter:

Beck confirms that the #LAPD has deployed additional officers to the @TheGRAMMYs for precautionary reasons

Trying to get my hands on a copy of the donor list who helped raised the $1 million reward to #Dorner capture.

 

[shadowraiths]

From what I understand regarding the police in Riverside, he ambushed them. Riverside is no where near Los Angeles and, though the names of the victims of that attack have not been released, I would be extremely surprised if either officer was on his list or were related to anyone on his list.

Do we even know for certain that he is the one who shot them? I have heard rumblings that two shooters were involved in that incident. Moreover, there have been repeated sightings of the man that have later been debunked. Add to that the two vehicles shot up, that, again, were not him? Anyway, just a thought...

 

[wfgodot]

Live blog and tons of articles here: http://www.dailynews.com/manhunt

 

[CJMAJORGIRL24]

Announcing 1,000,000 for info leading to capture. Will not tolerate reign of terror that has robbed us of peace of mind that we deserve."

IMO that is why he IS being so quiet right now. He doesn't want them to have peace of mind.

 

[Voice4theSilent]

Do we even know for certain that he is the one who shot them? I have heard rumblings that two shooters were involved in that incident. Moreover, there have been repeated sightings of the man that have later been debunked. Add to that the two vehicles shot up, that, again, were not him? Anyway, just a thought...

I know for certain he shot the police in Corona (my neighbor was the man who saw him at the gas station and pointed him out to police, resulting in the Corona Police officer shooting) which was around 1:30am. There is no reason to believe that he wouldn't have been the person who shot the two Riverside police officers as the timing to travel from the Corona shooting to the one in Riverside was perfect. As is the case in every manhunt, mistaken identity occurs a lot.

 

[Charlie09]

I don't think so. His goal was to get an apology and "clear his name." I don't think he is done.

Does anyone think that even if he wanted to, he could give himself up and not be killed?

(I'm not justifying or rooting him on, on any level - I want to make that clear) I just don't see how there is any out for him to have a moment of rational thought and give himself up. I'm pretty sure he'll be shot on sight, perhaps with cause because of what he's capable of doing.

(Jjenny, just adding to your post, not really singling you out with my question!)

 

[Elley Mae]

I must say that the thought has entered my mind that the (shoot on sight) order may have been given after the last two incidents with citizens being shot and being shot at. I am not sure I agree with the million dollar reward.

 

[JBean]

Does anyone think that even if he wanted to, he could give himself up and not be killed?

(I'm not justifying or rooting him on, on any level - I want to make that clear) I just don't see how there is any out for him to have a moment of rational thought and give himself up. I'm pretty sure he'll be shot on sight, perhaps with cause because of what he's capable of doing.

(Jjenny, just adding to your post, not really singling you out with my question!)

I think he knows he will not be captured alive. Imo that means he has absolutely nothing to lose which will make him more dangerous than ever.

 

[Pensfan]

They just cannot confirm it was him. I think it "originated" in Vancouver,Washington- but presumably that was just a diverted phone call or a toss away from that area. iOW< they are having trouble tying it to him directly or gleaning clues from it.

Scammers can use voice over internet protocol (VOIP) telephone numbers, most commonly “Magic Jack”, and use phone numbers with prefixes from any US state.

 

[JBean]

Scammers can use voice over internet protocol (VOIP) telephone numbers, most commonly “Magic Jack”, and use phone numbers with prefixes from any US state.

Exactly.
Easy technology.

 

[Voice4theSilent]

Does anyone think that even if he wanted to, he could give himself up and not be killed?

(I'm not justifying or rooting him on, on any level - I want to make that clear) I just don't see how there is any out for him to have a moment of rational thought and give himself up. I'm pretty sure he'll be shot on sight, perhaps with cause because of what he's capable of doing.

(Jjenny, just adding to your post, not really singling you out with my question!)

I absolutely think he could give himself up at any time and not be killed. If he was lying on the ground in submission they aren't going to shoot him. Though CD would have you believe differently, LE isn't comprised of a roving band of evil, trigger happy murderers....these are fathers, sons, wives, mothers and neighbors we are talking about. You better believe that, especially in this instance, LE is going to do everything by the book.

 

[CJMAJORGIRL24]

Does anyone think that even if he wanted to, he could give himself up and not be killed?

(I'm not justifying or rooting him on, on any level - I want to make that clear) I just don't see how there is any out for him to have a moment of rational thought and give himself up. I'm pretty sure he'll be shot on sight, perhaps with cause because of what he's capable of doing.

(Jjenny, just adding to your post, not really singling you out with my question!)

He can't give himself up-for many reasons.

 

[JBean]

Folks -pictures must have a link to the source.
thanks.

 

[raine1212]

I think he knows he will not be captured alive. Imo that means he has absolutely nothing to lose which will make him more dangerous than ever.

I agree JBean.. remember Eric Rudolph he survived in the mountains for 5 years before he got caught by accident. With CD'S training he will go down with a fight and probably a bad one.

 

[gitana1]

I'm thinkin the LA cops wanna kill this clown before he can talk to the media.

That's not logical IMO. Everything this clown wanted to say has already been said via his manifesto. And now his appellate proceedings have been reported. It's not like there's anything left they need to silence him on. His whole mission was to get an apology for his long and detailed list of perceived wrongs.

They want to kill him because he is an extreme danger to society, I think.

I think he left his briefcase and his badge there by the San Diego airport on purpose. And he tied up that old man on his boat, told him he was headed to Mexico, then left abruptly. That too was staged, imo. So the authorities were all caught up searching the entrances to Mexico and searching the airport. But he was already headed to big Bear by then. The truck MIGHT have been a mistake, but maybe not. That might have been staged as well.

I am afraid that he is stalking one of his targets right now, in a place we least expect it.

All his targets are aware though, that they are targets. They are also well protected. Which is why, if he is still alive, I'm worried for the public at large or random police officers He will have to committ more murders or crimes in order to continue his reign of terror.

I'm still looking for a source other than the original one (which was the Sunday Express, a middle-market UK tabloid) for the info. It's been picked up by at least one L.A. Times/blog person, and used on a score of non-MSM blog sites. I would be surprised if they weren't using drones though. It's been done in OK when a family went missing. This may be the first time a citizen has been hunted on U.S. soil with that capability, though.

Should the madmen who held five year old Ethan hostage for several days been allowed to live so he could face a court of law? How about if someone had had a gun and was capable of killing the coward of Newtown before he killed anymore babies? Is it more moral to allow him to get on with it rather than to kill him dead, because he deserves to be tried in a court of law rather than on the street?

I see no difference between those scenarios and this creep being shot down by a drone or whatever. He announced his intent to murder and he fulfilled his promise. He is a clear and imminent danger.

 

[katydid23]

Even if he did escape from Big Bear mountain before his truck was discovered, he had to have another vehicle. Did he stash one up there previously? Or did he carjack/kidnap someone or find one to steal that has never been reported?

 

[CJMAJORGIRL24]

Even if he did escape from Big Bear mountain before his truck was discovered, he had to have another vehicle. Did he stash one up there previously? Or did he carjack/kidnap someone or find one to steal that has never been reported?

I was thinking he could have rented a car? heck i don't know...But i don't think he is on the mountain...(just a feeling)

 

[gitana1]

Even if he did escape from Big Bear mountain before his truck was discovered, he had to have another vehicle. Did he stash one up there previously? Or did he carjack/kidnap someone or find one to steal that has never been reported?

Someone mentioned drag marks near his vehicle and thought maybe had a motorcycle in the bed.