It is really hard to hear the video interviews of the kids when they are played.
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You could tell during Stallings questioning that the last bio child, the 9 y/o was alerted by her that he left out Orrin and Orson name. I sure hope Grandma does not get a visit tonight.Was this the boy that said he saw Grandma Wanda yesterday?
She said " and Orrin and Orson " after he listed the other family members being in Cal City and he says Oh yeah! Orrin and Orson.
He was definitely pushing the I do not remember line. He did not realize he was leaving the 2 younger boys off the list until Stallings told him.
I have never heard kids on the stand and I hope to never again. Pretty sure the last bio child, the older boy will be the same of I do not remember but he will have the maturity to know to add the names. I wonder if he has internet access during this? I think he will do a better job at remembering who Orrin and Orson is and what they look like.
Bet he will say he saw them in the van and on that bunkbed in Cal City. JMO!
Lets hope the prosecutor has something better up his sleeve?
She said " and Orrin and Orson " after he listed the other family members being in Cal City and he says Oh yeah! Orrin and Orson.
He was definitely pushing the I do not remember line. He did not realize he was leaving the 2 younger boys off the list until Stallings told him.
I have never heard kids on the stand and I hope to never again. Pretty sure the last bio child, the older boy will be the same of I do not remember but he will have the maturity to know to add the names. I wonder if he has internet access during this? I think he will do a better job at remembering who Orrin and Orson is and what they look like.
Bet he will say he saw them in the van and on that bunkbed in Cal City. JMO!
Lets hope the prosecutor has something better up his sleeve?
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Afternoon Testimony, Part 3
DAY FOURTEEN - May 1, 2023
https://twitter.com/KGETnews
One of the Wests' biological children has been called to the stand. #WestsTrial
Each of the West children has shown up wearing a collared white shirt. #WestsTrial
This boy is 9 years old. He's in 3rd grade. His favorite subject in school is writing. #WestsTrial
He identified the Wests as his parents. He said he remembers living in an apartment in Bakersfield. #WestsTrial
The boy said he doesn't recognize a photo of the apartment complex where the Wests lived but does recognize a photo of house in California City. He said he doesn't remember what room he stayed in or what it looked like. #WestsTrial
Asked who lived at the house, he named the Wests and his brothers but didn't name Orrin or Orson. #WestsTrial
Smith is asking the boy about bunk beds and who slept where. The boy said he slept in the middle bunk. #WestsTrial
The boy testified he doesn't remember Orrin or Orson. #WestsTrial
Smith displayed photos of Orrin and Orson. The boy said he doesn't recognize them. #WestsTrial
The boy said he doesn't remember going to his grandmother's house in December 2020, being there when police showed up or talking to police. #WestsTrial
Smith is going to play video of an interview police conducted with the child. #WestsTrial
The video is playing. The boy keeps rubbing his face and fidgeting in his seat. #WestsTrial
The officer answers his phone during the interview then goes back to questioning the boy. #WestsTrial
The boy is having difficulty answering any of the questions, including giving examples of something right and something wrong. #WestsTrial
He starts answering some questions and says mom and dad taught him right from wrong. #WestsTrial
He says he came to his grandmother's house a few days ago. His parents were in the van when they traveled there, and so were his brothers. He gives their names but doesn't name Orrin or Orson. #WestsTrial
Asked who lives with him, he also doesn't name Orrin or Orson but does say they lived in the apartment in Bakersfield. Asked why they didn't move to the house in Cal City, the boy says, "Because they were crying a lot." He says his parents told him that. #WestsTrial
He says his parents told him the boys went back to where they used to live. #WestsTrial
The boy says he didn't like having Orrin and Orson at home because they cried. #WestsTrial
The video ended. The boy testified he still doesn't remember the interview with the police officer. #WestsTrial
Asked what he meant when he told the officer Orrin and Orson West went to the place they used to live, the boy said, "They went home." #WestsTrial
Smith ended his questioning. Torres Stallings has begun cross-examination. #WestsTrial
She asked what he had to eat that day and how he got there. #WestsTrial
The boy told her what he had to eat and that someone drove him to court. The boy said he has been in the courtroom before. #WestsTrial
Torres Stallings went over the differences between truths, lies and mistakes with the boy. #WestsTrial
The boy said his mom was a good teacher. He was home-schooled by Jacqueline West. #WestsTrial
"Every memory" is his favorite memory of his mom and dad, the boy said. #WestsTrial
Attorney Victor Nasser handed tissues to Trezell and Jacqueline West. #WestsTrial
Court is in recess until 9 a.m. tomorrow. #WestsTrial
DAY FOURTEEN - May 1, 2023
https://twitter.com/KGETnews
One of the Wests' biological children has been called to the stand. #WestsTrial
Each of the West children has shown up wearing a collared white shirt. #WestsTrial
This boy is 9 years old. He's in 3rd grade. His favorite subject in school is writing. #WestsTrial
He identified the Wests as his parents. He said he remembers living in an apartment in Bakersfield. #WestsTrial
The boy said he doesn't recognize a photo of the apartment complex where the Wests lived but does recognize a photo of house in California City. He said he doesn't remember what room he stayed in or what it looked like. #WestsTrial
Asked who lived at the house, he named the Wests and his brothers but didn't name Orrin or Orson. #WestsTrial
Smith is asking the boy about bunk beds and who slept where. The boy said he slept in the middle bunk. #WestsTrial
The boy testified he doesn't remember Orrin or Orson. #WestsTrial
Smith displayed photos of Orrin and Orson. The boy said he doesn't recognize them. #WestsTrial
The boy said he doesn't remember going to his grandmother's house in December 2020, being there when police showed up or talking to police. #WestsTrial
Smith is going to play video of an interview police conducted with the child. #WestsTrial
The video is playing. The boy keeps rubbing his face and fidgeting in his seat. #WestsTrial
The officer answers his phone during the interview then goes back to questioning the boy. #WestsTrial
The boy is having difficulty answering any of the questions, including giving examples of something right and something wrong. #WestsTrial
He starts answering some questions and says mom and dad taught him right from wrong. #WestsTrial
He says he came to his grandmother's house a few days ago. His parents were in the van when they traveled there, and so were his brothers. He gives their names but doesn't name Orrin or Orson. #WestsTrial
Asked who lives with him, he also doesn't name Orrin or Orson but does say they lived in the apartment in Bakersfield. Asked why they didn't move to the house in Cal City, the boy says, "Because they were crying a lot." He says his parents told him that. #WestsTrial
He says his parents told him the boys went back to where they used to live. #WestsTrial
The boy says he didn't like having Orrin and Orson at home because they cried. #WestsTrial
The video ended. The boy testified he still doesn't remember the interview with the police officer. #WestsTrial
Asked what he meant when he told the officer Orrin and Orson West went to the place they used to live, the boy said, "They went home." #WestsTrial
Smith ended his questioning. Torres Stallings has begun cross-examination. #WestsTrial
She asked what he had to eat that day and how he got there. #WestsTrial
The boy told her what he had to eat and that someone drove him to court. The boy said he has been in the courtroom before. #WestsTrial
Torres Stallings went over the differences between truths, lies and mistakes with the boy. #WestsTrial
The boy said his mom was a good teacher. He was home-schooled by Jacqueline West. #WestsTrial
"Every memory" is his favorite memory of his mom and dad, the boy said. #WestsTrial
Attorney Victor Nasser handed tissues to Trezell and Jacqueline West. #WestsTrial
Court is in recess until 9 a.m. tomorrow. #WestsTrial
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MAY 1, 2023
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A 16-year-old boy who lived with the couple charged in the deaths of Orrin and Orson West testified he witnessed the wife on multiple occasions place younger children in a chokehold to get them to stop crying.
The teen, a foster child who lived with Trezell and Jacqueline West for about a year around 2016 — years before before the Wests adopted Orrin and Orson — demonstrated in court on Monday the move he said Jacqueline West used on the Wests’ two other adopted children, especially one who cried frequently. He said Jacqueline West would sit on the floor with the child in front of her and interlock her arms around his neck while using her legs to grip the child’s legs and hold the rest of the body still.
The teen said Jacqueline West would scream at the child as she held him in that position for a period of time that could last anywhere from 5 minutes to an hour. The teen said he got angry but was young and couldn’t do anything to stop her.
West Trial Day 14: Prosecution begins calling West children to testify
BAKERSFIELD, Calif. (KGET) — A 16-year-old boy who lived with the couple charged in the deaths of Orrin and Orson West testified he witnessed the wife on multiple occasions place younger chil…
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The teen, a foster child who lived with Trezell and Jacqueline West for about a year around 2016 — years before before the Wests adopted Orrin and Orson — demonstrated in court on Monday the move he said Jacqueline West used on the Wests’ two other adopted children, especially one who cried frequently. He said Jacqueline West would sit on the floor with the child in front of her and interlock her arms around his neck while using her legs to grip the child’s legs and hold the rest of the body still.
The teen said Jacqueline West would scream at the child as she held him in that position for a period of time that could last anywhere from 5 minutes to an hour. The teen said he got angry but was young and couldn’t do anything to stop her.
Stallings made it a point to get him to mention why he left his Aunts home and went back to Jameson after he told her he did not want to go into it. She wanted to show that he was troubled youth, IMO only!MAY 1, 2023
A 16-year-old boy who lived with the couple charged in the deaths of Orrin and Orson West testified he witnessed the wife on multiple occasions place younger children in a chokehold to get them to stop crying.West Trial Day 14: Prosecution begins calling West children to testify
BAKERSFIELD, Calif. (KGET) — A 16-year-old boy who lived with the couple charged in the deaths of Orrin and Orson West testified he witnessed the wife on multiple occasions place younger chil…
The teen, a foster child who lived with Trezell and Jacqueline West for about a year around 2016 — years before before the Wests adopted Orrin and Orson — demonstrated in court on Monday the move he said Jacqueline West used on the Wests’ two other adopted children, especially one who cried frequently. He said Jacqueline West would sit on the floor with the child in front of her and interlock her arms around his neck while using her legs to grip the child’s legs and hold the rest of the body still.
The teen said Jacqueline West would scream at the child as she held him in that position for a period of time that could last anywhere from 5 minutes to an hour. The teen said he got angry but was young and couldn’t do anything to stop her.
It really felt wrong listening to any of the children's testimony coming from all sides. Between the bio parents, the adopted parents, the police investigation and the court these kids will be more troubled from it than before.
I seriously doubt either Wests abused the bio children like they did Orson and Orrin.
And Stallings trying to make that hold down of the child by JW, into a proper technique for difficult children? At least that was what I thought she was trying to imply. She did not succeed though.
OK I will be quiet now, I am rambling.
I seriously doubt either Wests abused the bio children like they did Orson and Orrin.
And Stallings trying to make that hold down of the child by JW, into a proper technique for difficult children? At least that was what I thought she was trying to imply. She did not succeed though.
OK I will be quiet now, I am rambling.
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Thank you for all your updates today, cuffem. It's really helpful to hear your point of view as someone who is hearing the testimony first-hand.
The statement below by the 8-year-old stood out to me. I'm wondering when he says O&O were only there one day if he was remembering a trip they made to the house while they were moving? MOO
The boy says both Orrin and Orson moved to the Cal City house "but then they left." He says they were only there one day and he doesn't know where they went. #WestsTrial
Don't quote me on it but I swear I remember someone saying in either the interview or the prosecutor that it was TW that told him they left.
At times things are barely audible with the recordings.
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Homeschooled. These poor children. All of them. And of course, now tearing up the testimony of one of their victims.
9 y/o back on the stand with Stallings.
Right off the bat, objection on Who do you live with right now? Sidebar.
She asks if others in the home have talked about parents.
He says no but he saw them on tv.
Asking about who stepped in bunkbeds.
Does not remember how long Orson and Orrin lived at the home.
He says Orrin and Orrin would eat at the table.
Smith asking about who disciplined the children. (Does he know what the word means?)
Stallings asking what Tongue lashing means ( GEEZUS! )
Going over what mistakes mean ( I think the jury gets it )
He is excused for now.
Right off the bat, objection on Who do you live with right now? Sidebar.
She asks if others in the home have talked about parents.
He says no but he saw them on tv.
Asking about who stepped in bunkbeds.
Does not remember how long Orson and Orrin lived at the home.
He says Orrin and Orrin would eat at the table.
Smith asking about who disciplined the children. (Does he know what the word means?)
Stallings asking what Tongue lashing means ( GEEZUS! )
Going over what mistakes mean ( I think the jury gets it )
He is excused for now.
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Off record.
The next witness is a Spanish interpreter.
( I can not hear the questions by Smith )
Maria Flores is a friend of Maria Martinez, JW's mother.
She had lived in the home Dec 2020.
The other bio child should take the stand next.
( Can not hear very well, cross )
Asking if she remembers officers.
Flores excused.
The next witness is a Spanish interpreter.
( I can not hear the questions by Smith )
Maria Flores is a friend of Maria Martinez, JW's mother.
She had lived in the home Dec 2020.
The other bio child should take the stand next.
( Can not hear very well, cross )
Asking if she remembers officers.
Flores excused.
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12 y/o on the stand.
Talking about school.
Asking about playing with brothers.
Smith asks him if he sees his parents in the courtroom.
Smith asks about living in the apt in Bakersfield.
What room did he sleep in and with whom.
He names all the children.
All slept on mats. Even Orrin and Orson.
Showing him his drawing of the apt. in Bakersfield showing where he slept.
Smith showing picture and asking who slept where.
The four siblings went to homeschooled with him.
Did he see Orrin and Orson disciplined? No.
Did he see his father spanking Orson and Orrin? No.
Showing him the stick found in the van.
He says his father was using it to teach him self defense.
Asked if his dad carried it around, No not really.
Asks about house in Cal City.
Who moved there with him? Everybody, and names Orrin and Orson.
Asks if he saw Orrin of them sick? First says no then yes.
Saw him throwing up.
Not sure what happened to Orrin.
He looked normal.
He just left him there. Saw throw up.
Told police Orrins color was fading but does not remember.
Not sure if Orrin was taken anywhere.
Talking about school.
Asking about playing with brothers.
Smith asks him if he sees his parents in the courtroom.
Smith asks about living in the apt in Bakersfield.
What room did he sleep in and with whom.
He names all the children.
All slept on mats. Even Orrin and Orson.
Showing him his drawing of the apt. in Bakersfield showing where he slept.
Smith showing picture and asking who slept where.
The four siblings went to homeschooled with him.
Did he see Orrin and Orson disciplined? No.
Did he see his father spanking Orson and Orrin? No.
Showing him the stick found in the van.
He says his father was using it to teach him self defense.
Asked if his dad carried it around, No not really.
Asks about house in Cal City.
Who moved there with him? Everybody, and names Orrin and Orson.
Asks if he saw Orrin of them sick? First says no then yes.
Saw him throwing up.
Not sure what happened to Orrin.
He looked normal.
He just left him there. Saw throw up.
Told police Orrins color was fading but does not remember.
Not sure if Orrin was taken anywhere.
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Smith showing him pics of his room in Cal City and ask where he slept.
He believes either Orrin or Orson sleeping there but not sure who.
Asking him about homeschool.
The four siblings were homeschooled he says.
Smith asks who drove to Grandmas Christmas 2020.
Does not remember who drove. Does not remember police and if the asked about the 2 missing boys. He guess so.
Smith playing his interview video. ( hard to hear)
Admitting transcripts of interview.
Playing interview.
Asks if he knows right from wrong.
He does not know where Orrin and Orson were dropped off. ( I think Christmas? )
(Very hard to hear his answers)
He says his parents told him Orrin and Orson were dropped off at grandparents, long time ago.
Playing another video.
Says Orrin and Orson went Cal City house with them.
He says he liked them but they were annoying and cried a lot. ( Video ends )
Asks if he remembers what he told police on who was in the van. No.
He does not remember telling officers they have been gone for weeks.
He says he was not listening to that part of interview that was just played.
Does not remember being questioned.
Playing another video.
Says he does not remember the female officer in the interview.
They are playing video then a break.
( Can not hear his answers in the interview )
He lists who was in his family. Minus Orrin and Orson.
Asks about being at Grandmas. Who went.On the 19th of Dec.
Asking if he understands adoption. Orrin and Orson were adopted.
Says Orrin and Orson were at their Grandmas house.
She talks about covid happening.
Said boys were not around for Thanksgiving and Halloween. Says they were at grandmas.
( Can not hear his answers)
He said he has not seen Orrin and Orson since then.
She steps out.
The boys went to stay with grandma Maria and has not seen them since.
Other foster kids live with grandma Maria.
Video ends. 15 min. break.
He believes either Orrin or Orson sleeping there but not sure who.
Asking him about homeschool.
The four siblings were homeschooled he says.
Smith asks who drove to Grandmas Christmas 2020.
Does not remember who drove. Does not remember police and if the asked about the 2 missing boys. He guess so.
Smith playing his interview video. ( hard to hear)
Admitting transcripts of interview.
Playing interview.
Asks if he knows right from wrong.
He does not know where Orrin and Orson were dropped off. ( I think Christmas? )
(Very hard to hear his answers)
He says his parents told him Orrin and Orson were dropped off at grandparents, long time ago.
Playing another video.
Says Orrin and Orson went Cal City house with them.
He says he liked them but they were annoying and cried a lot. ( Video ends )
Asks if he remembers what he told police on who was in the van. No.
He does not remember telling officers they have been gone for weeks.
He says he was not listening to that part of interview that was just played.
Does not remember being questioned.
Playing another video.
Says he does not remember the female officer in the interview.
They are playing video then a break.
( Can not hear his answers in the interview )
He lists who was in his family. Minus Orrin and Orson.
Asks about being at Grandmas. Who went.On the 19th of Dec.
Asking if he understands adoption. Orrin and Orson were adopted.
Says Orrin and Orson were at their Grandmas house.
She talks about covid happening.
Said boys were not around for Thanksgiving and Halloween. Says they were at grandmas.
( Can not hear his answers)
He said he has not seen Orrin and Orson since then.
She steps out.
The boys went to stay with grandma Maria and has not seen them since.
Other foster kids live with grandma Maria.
Video ends. 15 min. break.
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West Trial Day 14: Three of the Wests' sons testify
On day 14 of the West trial, the jury heard from the other boys living in Trezell and Jacqueline's home, a neighbor of the Wests, a foster child who used to
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Back in session.
Smith asking child to read transcript of his interview with female officer.
Ask who is in video being shown. Himself.(interview)
He does not remember the interview.
Sidebar or technical?
Now playing more of the interview.
( Hard to hear his answers and parts of her questions)
Questions about grandma.
Something about a secret and parents talking about Orrin and Orson.
I think he said he was asked to keep a secret by his parents ( WOW! )
( Finally someone raises the volume of the video )
( OH holy moly!!! he his discussing one of the boys Orrin on his belly covered in a blanket, making noises all night and just left alone and sick )
Throw up coming out his nose and parents were crying.
The parents asked the boy if they should call Ambulance, he said no.
Parents said he could be taken away from them.
The parents told everyone Orrin went to grandmas but he does not know where he went.
Orrin was dead. Orrin was cold.
Orson was in his crib. He was alive.
Then they moved.
They took Orson to JW's mother.
( This child seems very mature and understands what is happening ) IMO.
Orson never came back.
Wanda watched the other boys as parents took Orson to grandma.
Boy is upset about not getting treat of ice cream and watch left behind.
He said boys were annoying, crying a lot.
Parents would smack them on cheeks.
They would be hit with paddle stick.
They would all get hit and deserved it.
The hitting suddenly stopped.
One boy got cold showers for peeing. 6 y/o at the time.
He would do it in his sleep.
He says Orrin and Orson were potty trained.
One of the boys threw up after drinking too much of chopped up food.
Because he would chew with his mouth open.
Both Orrin and Orson would get the drink.
Orrin took Orson's drink.
Parents told Orrin punch Orson for revenge.
( DEAR GOD! )
She steps out of room.
He is coloring.
Smith asking child to read transcript of his interview with female officer.
Ask who is in video being shown. Himself.(interview)
He does not remember the interview.
Sidebar or technical?
Now playing more of the interview.
( Hard to hear his answers and parts of her questions)
Questions about grandma.
Something about a secret and parents talking about Orrin and Orson.
I think he said he was asked to keep a secret by his parents ( WOW! )
( Finally someone raises the volume of the video )
( OH holy moly!!! he his discussing one of the boys Orrin on his belly covered in a blanket, making noises all night and just left alone and sick )
Throw up coming out his nose and parents were crying.
The parents asked the boy if they should call Ambulance, he said no.
Parents said he could be taken away from them.
The parents told everyone Orrin went to grandmas but he does not know where he went.
Orrin was dead. Orrin was cold.
Orson was in his crib. He was alive.
Then they moved.
They took Orson to JW's mother.
( This child seems very mature and understands what is happening ) IMO.
Orson never came back.
Wanda watched the other boys as parents took Orson to grandma.
Boy is upset about not getting treat of ice cream and watch left behind.
He said boys were annoying, crying a lot.
Parents would smack them on cheeks.
They would be hit with paddle stick.
They would all get hit and deserved it.
The hitting suddenly stopped.
One boy got cold showers for peeing. 6 y/o at the time.
He would do it in his sleep.
He says Orrin and Orson were potty trained.
One of the boys threw up after drinking too much of chopped up food.
Because he would chew with his mouth open.
Both Orrin and Orson would get the drink.
Orrin took Orson's drink.
Parents told Orrin punch Orson for revenge.
( DEAR GOD! )
She steps out of room.
He is coloring.
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They had to tell the other boys that Orrin and Orson would come back.
He made a promise to his parents not to tell anyone about Orrin and Orson being gone and it was a secret.
He said he cried a lot.
He was excited to move to new house and he did not think about Orrin and Orson.
Orrin was not there but Orson was crying a lot and had to be put in a room by himself as realtor was there to give keys.
They get annoyed when Orrin and Orson cries.
They would put the bleed food in a baby bottle for them to drink.
They would hav to make him chew with his mouth closed.
Where did they take Orrin's body? He does not know he asked.
It was when he was at school. He came home and the boy was gone.
Still have the sheets from their beds.
She steps out to get him water.
8 min. left in video, it continues.
( I can not hear again. )
She comes back.
She asks him what his understanding of what is going on?
He says he asked why Police were at Grandmas.
He says the original parents called the police because of Orrin and Orson.
He says the other adopted boys parents did not see them.
He thought the boys were at Grandmas but he saw on the news on a tablet the boys were missing.
He said he saw the interview and dad was lying about them being missing.
He does not know why they said Orson was missing.
Interview is interrupted and over.
Lunch break until 1:35
He made a promise to his parents not to tell anyone about Orrin and Orson being gone and it was a secret.
He said he cried a lot.
He was excited to move to new house and he did not think about Orrin and Orson.
Orrin was not there but Orson was crying a lot and had to be put in a room by himself as realtor was there to give keys.
They get annoyed when Orrin and Orson cries.
They would put the bleed food in a baby bottle for them to drink.
They would hav to make him chew with his mouth closed.
Where did they take Orrin's body? He does not know he asked.
It was when he was at school. He came home and the boy was gone.
Still have the sheets from their beds.
She steps out to get him water.
8 min. left in video, it continues.
( I can not hear again. )
She comes back.
She asks him what his understanding of what is going on?
He says he asked why Police were at Grandmas.
He says the original parents called the police because of Orrin and Orson.
He says the other adopted boys parents did not see them.
He thought the boys were at Grandmas but he saw on the news on a tablet the boys were missing.
He said he saw the interview and dad was lying about them being missing.
He does not know why they said Orson was missing.
Interview is interrupted and over.
Lunch break until 1:35
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This child appears smart and mature and understood or was aware of what was going on. This is all believable and not a mistake as Stallings like to say.
The boy said he was troubled by what had happened. He very much understands right from wrong. IMO!
The boy said he was troubled by what had happened. He very much understands right from wrong. IMO!
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Morning Testimony, Part 1
DAY FIFTEEN - May 2, 2023
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The trial of Trezell and Jacqueline West has resumed with the Wests' 9-year-old biological son back on the witness stand. He's being cross-examined by Alekxia Torres Stallings, lead counsel for Jacqueline West. #WestsTrial
A sidebar has been called. #WestsTrial
The sidebar was called after prosecutor Eric Smith objected to Torres Stallings asking the boy where he lives now. #WestsTrial
The attorneys and judge are back and the child is testifying to the people he lives with. #WestsTrial
Torres Stallings is asking if others in the home have talked about his parents. He said no but he has seen them on TV. #WestsTrial
He said he saw them on TV once, a long time ago. #WestsTrial
The boy has talked about sleeping arrangements. He said he and some of his brothers were in the Cal City home for a "long time," but he couldn't remember how long Orrin and Orson were there. #WestsTrial
The boy said Orrin and Orson would be at the dining room table and eat there with the rest of the family. #WestsTrial
Torres Stallings has finished her questioning. On redirect, prosecutor Eric Smith asked who disciplined him and his brothers. He said no, and doesn't remember who disciplined Orrin and Orson. #WestsTrial
The boy confirmed that when asked how long Orrin and Orson lived at the Cal City home he said he didn't know. #WestsTrial
On re-cross, the boy said his father would sometimes talk to him when he made a mistake, like running in the house. The boy has been excused. #WestsTrial
DAY FIFTEEN - May 2, 2023
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The trial of Trezell and Jacqueline West has resumed with the Wests' 9-year-old biological son back on the witness stand. He's being cross-examined by Alekxia Torres Stallings, lead counsel for Jacqueline West. #WestsTrial
A sidebar has been called. #WestsTrial
The sidebar was called after prosecutor Eric Smith objected to Torres Stallings asking the boy where he lives now. #WestsTrial
The attorneys and judge are back and the child is testifying to the people he lives with. #WestsTrial
Torres Stallings is asking if others in the home have talked about his parents. He said no but he has seen them on TV. #WestsTrial
He said he saw them on TV once, a long time ago. #WestsTrial
The boy has talked about sleeping arrangements. He said he and some of his brothers were in the Cal City home for a "long time," but he couldn't remember how long Orrin and Orson were there. #WestsTrial
The boy said Orrin and Orson would be at the dining room table and eat there with the rest of the family. #WestsTrial
Torres Stallings has finished her questioning. On redirect, prosecutor Eric Smith asked who disciplined him and his brothers. He said no, and doesn't remember who disciplined Orrin and Orson. #WestsTrial
The boy confirmed that when asked how long Orrin and Orson lived at the Cal City home he said he didn't know. #WestsTrial
On re-cross, the boy said his father would sometimes talk to him when he made a mistake, like running in the house. The boy has been excused. #WestsTrial
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Morning Testimony, Part 2
DAY FIFTEEN - May 2, 2023
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The next witness will be using a Spanish language interpreter. #WestsTrial
After this witness it's expected the Wests' eldest biological son will take the stand. #WestsTrial
Maria Cardenas Flores has been called to the stand. She knows Maria Martinez, Jacqueline West's mother. Has known her 20 years. #WestsTrial
Flores testified in December 2020 she lived at a home on Oakdale Drive. She said she doesn't recall giving items like a shelf and lumber to Trezell and Jacqueline West, doesn't remember them coming to her home. #WestsTrial
Smith asked if the Wests stayed at her home at some time in 2021. She said they slept over at a section "all the way in the back." They stayed there about a month, then the police came and took them out, Flores said. #WestsTrial
Smith is asking about the garage. She said she stores personal things there. Smith ended his questioning. #WestsTrial
Fatima Rodriguez, one of the attorneys representing Jacqueline West, has begun cross-examination. #WestsTrial
Flores agreed she let the Wests stay in her home as a favor to Jacqueline's mother. She said she never spoke with them about the case. The Wests slept in their car on her residence, didn't stay inside the house itself. #WestsTrial
Flores said she remembers Jacqueline and her mother coming to her house to get a bookshelf but it didn't fit in their van. She said she didn't help them put the bookshelf in the van. Under questioning by Rodriguez, she said she didn't look in the van. #WestsTrial
Rodriguez ended her questioning. Flores has been excused. #WestsTrial
DAY FIFTEEN - May 2, 2023
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The next witness will be using a Spanish language interpreter. #WestsTrial
After this witness it's expected the Wests' eldest biological son will take the stand. #WestsTrial
Maria Cardenas Flores has been called to the stand. She knows Maria Martinez, Jacqueline West's mother. Has known her 20 years. #WestsTrial
Flores testified in December 2020 she lived at a home on Oakdale Drive. She said she doesn't recall giving items like a shelf and lumber to Trezell and Jacqueline West, doesn't remember them coming to her home. #WestsTrial
Smith asked if the Wests stayed at her home at some time in 2021. She said they slept over at a section "all the way in the back." They stayed there about a month, then the police came and took them out, Flores said. #WestsTrial
Smith is asking about the garage. She said she stores personal things there. Smith ended his questioning. #WestsTrial
Fatima Rodriguez, one of the attorneys representing Jacqueline West, has begun cross-examination. #WestsTrial
Flores agreed she let the Wests stay in her home as a favor to Jacqueline's mother. She said she never spoke with them about the case. The Wests slept in their car on her residence, didn't stay inside the house itself. #WestsTrial
Flores said she remembers Jacqueline and her mother coming to her house to get a bookshelf but it didn't fit in their van. She said she didn't help them put the bookshelf in the van. Under questioning by Rodriguez, she said she didn't look in the van. #WestsTrial
Rodriguez ended her questioning. Flores has been excused. #WestsTrial
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Morning Testimony, Part 3
DAY FIFTEEN - May 2, 2023
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The Wests' eldest biological son has been called to the stand. This is the child who Smith said told police he saw Orrin die at the apartment in Bakersfield. #WestsTrial
He's 12 years old and is in 7th grade. #WestsTrial
The boy said science is his favorite subject. He said sometimes he plays with his brothers. #WestsTrial
The boy pointed out Trezell West and said that's his father, and Jacqueline West and said she's his mother. #WestsTrial
The boy testified he remembers the apartment they lived at in Bakersfield. He said he remembers moving to Cal City. #WestsTrial
He said all his brothers slept in the same room. They had mattresses on the floor. #WestsTrial
Smith showed the boy a drawing the boy had made. The boy said he made it to show the sleeping arrangements of him and and his brothers at the apartment. #WestsTrial
Orrin slept next to one of the other adopted children, and Orson also slept next to another of the Wests' adopted children, the boy said. He said the mattresses went with them to Cal City. #WestsTrial
The boy said he didn't see Orrin or Orson being disciplined. He said his father spanked him if he did something bad. He said his father usually used his hand. He didn't see him spank Orrin or Orson. #WestsTrial
Smith showed the boy a photo. The boy said his dad made it and it was kept for self defense. It's a stick. #WestsTrial
Shown another photo, the boy said he believes it's the apartment where they lived. He said his parents bought a home in Cal City in 2020. #WestsTrial
The boy said he was excited his parents bought a home in Cal City. He said he doesn't remember how many rooms it had or how big it was. #WestsTrial
The boy recognized the house when Smith showed him a photo. #WestsTrial
The boy said "everybody" moved to the Cal City house, including Orrin and Orson. #WestsTrial
The boy said he remembers an incident in Bakersfield where Orrin threw up. He doesn't remember when it happened or what time of day. He believes it was morning. #WestsTrial
The boy said he saw Orrin throwing up. He said he's not sure what happened to Orrin. He said he doesn't remember much about it. #WestsTrial
The boy said he saw vomit. He said he's not really sure what he meant when he told police Orrin's color was fading. #WestsTrial
The boy said he's not sure if Orrin was taken somewhere while they were in the apartment in Bakersfield. #WestsTrial
Shown a picture of his room in Cal City, the boy said he slept in the top bunk, his biological brother slept in the middle and he believes Orson slept in the bottom bunk. He said he's not sure if Orrin or Orson slept in the bottom. #WestsTrial
The boy said he was home-schooled in Cal City. #WestsTrial
Smith showed a photo of what the boy said was their school room. He said he and 3 of his brothers went to the school room, not Orrin and Orson. #WestsTrial
The boy said around Christmas 2020 he remembers going to his grandmother's house. He said he doesn't remember who drove him or who was in the van. He said he remembers the police coming to his grandmother's house and being questioned. #WestsTrial
The boy said he tried to tell police the truth. #WestsTrial
Smith is going to play the videos of the boy's interview with police. #WestsTrial
The boy said he recognizes himself in the videos. Transcripts of the interview are being handed out to the jury. #WestsTrial
The video is playing. The boy was 10 at the time. #WestsTrial
The boy says he knows the difference between a lie and the truth. #WestsTrial
If he does something wrong at home "we get talked to by dad," the boy says. #WestsTrial
The boy says he knows it's wrong to hurt or kill someone. He says he knows it's against the law and "it's just wrong because why would you want to kill somebody?" #WestsTrial
The boy says he likes being at home and has a bunch of toys. #WestsTrial
He says Orrin and Orson weren't with them when they got dropped off at his grandmother's house. He doesn't know where they got dropped off but said his parents dropped them off a while ago. #WestsTrial
He says it was weeks ago. #WestsTrial
The boy says his parents told him they were dropping Orrin and Orson off at their grandparents' house. #WestsTrial
The boy says they haven't talked to Orrin or Orson. He says he doesn't know why they went to their grandparents' house. He says he liked Orrin and Orson but they were sort of annoying because they cried a lot. #WestsTrial
The boy says Orrin and Orson went to the Cal City house with them. #WestsTrial
The boy has clarified his answer and says Orrin went to his grandmother's house before they moved to Cal City, and Orson went after they moved. #WestsTrial
The video is over. #WestsTrial
Smith is continuing to question the boy. #WestsTrial
The boy he doesn't remember telling the officer the boys had been gone for weeks. #WestsTrial
He said he remembers "a little bit" talking with another person after the officer. He said he doesn't remember what type of questions she asked. #WestsTrial
The interview the boy had with that person will be played by Smith. #WestsTrial
Transcripts are being provided to the jury. The video is about 20 minutes long. #WestsTrial
The video has begun. A woman enters the frame and says she'll be interviewing the boy, and gives the time and date. #WestsTrial
The woman leaves, then returns with the boy, who takes a seat on a chair while the woman sits on a couch. #WestsTrial
The woman asks him to tell her about his dog, which he does. He gives descriptions of the 3 dogs. #WestsTrial
The boy talks about being at his grandmother's house. He says his parents dropped him off at his grandmother's house on the 19th. #WestsTrial
The woman asks where Orrin and Orson are. The boy says at their grandmother's house. He says they went there "before this month." #WestsTrial
He says his parents told him the boys were at their grandparents' house. He says the boys weren't around for Thanksgiving or Halloween. He says he believes they left after they moved. #WestsTrial
The boy says he doesn't remember what month they moved to Cal City. #WestsTrial
The boy says Orrin and Orson were around for his birthday in June, and were there in July for one of his brother's birthdays. #WestsTrial
He says Orrin and Orson went to their grandmother's house "a couple of days after we moved." #WestsTrial
The boy says he hasn't seen Orrin or Orson since then. He says his parents didn't tell him how long the boys were going to stay with their grandmother. #WestsTrial
The woman stops out of the room. #WestsTrial
She returns and continues asking questions. #WestsTrial
The boy agrees it's long time for Orrin and Orson to be at the grandmother's house. He says his parents didn't say why the boys went there. #WestsTrial
"Why do you think I'm asking you questions about Orson and Orrin?" the woman asks. "I don't know," the boy says. #WestsTrial
The woman finishes questioning him and they leave the room. Smith stopped the video. Court is in recess for 15 minutes. #WestsTrial
DAY FIFTEEN - May 2, 2023
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The Wests' eldest biological son has been called to the stand. This is the child who Smith said told police he saw Orrin die at the apartment in Bakersfield. #WestsTrial
He's 12 years old and is in 7th grade. #WestsTrial
The boy said science is his favorite subject. He said sometimes he plays with his brothers. #WestsTrial
The boy pointed out Trezell West and said that's his father, and Jacqueline West and said she's his mother. #WestsTrial
The boy testified he remembers the apartment they lived at in Bakersfield. He said he remembers moving to Cal City. #WestsTrial
He said all his brothers slept in the same room. They had mattresses on the floor. #WestsTrial
Smith showed the boy a drawing the boy had made. The boy said he made it to show the sleeping arrangements of him and and his brothers at the apartment. #WestsTrial
Orrin slept next to one of the other adopted children, and Orson also slept next to another of the Wests' adopted children, the boy said. He said the mattresses went with them to Cal City. #WestsTrial
The boy said he didn't see Orrin or Orson being disciplined. He said his father spanked him if he did something bad. He said his father usually used his hand. He didn't see him spank Orrin or Orson. #WestsTrial
Smith showed the boy a photo. The boy said his dad made it and it was kept for self defense. It's a stick. #WestsTrial
Shown another photo, the boy said he believes it's the apartment where they lived. He said his parents bought a home in Cal City in 2020. #WestsTrial
The boy said he was excited his parents bought a home in Cal City. He said he doesn't remember how many rooms it had or how big it was. #WestsTrial
The boy recognized the house when Smith showed him a photo. #WestsTrial
The boy said "everybody" moved to the Cal City house, including Orrin and Orson. #WestsTrial
The boy said he remembers an incident in Bakersfield where Orrin threw up. He doesn't remember when it happened or what time of day. He believes it was morning. #WestsTrial
The boy said he saw Orrin throwing up. He said he's not sure what happened to Orrin. He said he doesn't remember much about it. #WestsTrial
The boy said he saw vomit. He said he's not really sure what he meant when he told police Orrin's color was fading. #WestsTrial
The boy said he's not sure if Orrin was taken somewhere while they were in the apartment in Bakersfield. #WestsTrial
Shown a picture of his room in Cal City, the boy said he slept in the top bunk, his biological brother slept in the middle and he believes Orson slept in the bottom bunk. He said he's not sure if Orrin or Orson slept in the bottom. #WestsTrial
The boy said he was home-schooled in Cal City. #WestsTrial
Smith showed a photo of what the boy said was their school room. He said he and 3 of his brothers went to the school room, not Orrin and Orson. #WestsTrial
The boy said around Christmas 2020 he remembers going to his grandmother's house. He said he doesn't remember who drove him or who was in the van. He said he remembers the police coming to his grandmother's house and being questioned. #WestsTrial
The boy said he tried to tell police the truth. #WestsTrial
Smith is going to play the videos of the boy's interview with police. #WestsTrial
The boy said he recognizes himself in the videos. Transcripts of the interview are being handed out to the jury. #WestsTrial
The video is playing. The boy was 10 at the time. #WestsTrial
The boy says he knows the difference between a lie and the truth. #WestsTrial
If he does something wrong at home "we get talked to by dad," the boy says. #WestsTrial
The boy says he knows it's wrong to hurt or kill someone. He says he knows it's against the law and "it's just wrong because why would you want to kill somebody?" #WestsTrial
The boy says he likes being at home and has a bunch of toys. #WestsTrial
He says Orrin and Orson weren't with them when they got dropped off at his grandmother's house. He doesn't know where they got dropped off but said his parents dropped them off a while ago. #WestsTrial
He says it was weeks ago. #WestsTrial
The boy says his parents told him they were dropping Orrin and Orson off at their grandparents' house. #WestsTrial
The boy says they haven't talked to Orrin or Orson. He says he doesn't know why they went to their grandparents' house. He says he liked Orrin and Orson but they were sort of annoying because they cried a lot. #WestsTrial
The boy says Orrin and Orson went to the Cal City house with them. #WestsTrial
The boy has clarified his answer and says Orrin went to his grandmother's house before they moved to Cal City, and Orson went after they moved. #WestsTrial
The video is over. #WestsTrial
Smith is continuing to question the boy. #WestsTrial
The boy he doesn't remember telling the officer the boys had been gone for weeks. #WestsTrial
He said he remembers "a little bit" talking with another person after the officer. He said he doesn't remember what type of questions she asked. #WestsTrial
The interview the boy had with that person will be played by Smith. #WestsTrial
Transcripts are being provided to the jury. The video is about 20 minutes long. #WestsTrial
The video has begun. A woman enters the frame and says she'll be interviewing the boy, and gives the time and date. #WestsTrial
The woman leaves, then returns with the boy, who takes a seat on a chair while the woman sits on a couch. #WestsTrial
The woman asks him to tell her about his dog, which he does. He gives descriptions of the 3 dogs. #WestsTrial
The boy talks about being at his grandmother's house. He says his parents dropped him off at his grandmother's house on the 19th. #WestsTrial
The woman asks where Orrin and Orson are. The boy says at their grandmother's house. He says they went there "before this month." #WestsTrial
He says his parents told him the boys were at their grandparents' house. He says the boys weren't around for Thanksgiving or Halloween. He says he believes they left after they moved. #WestsTrial
The boy says he doesn't remember what month they moved to Cal City. #WestsTrial
The boy says Orrin and Orson were around for his birthday in June, and were there in July for one of his brother's birthdays. #WestsTrial
He says Orrin and Orson went to their grandmother's house "a couple of days after we moved." #WestsTrial
The boy says he hasn't seen Orrin or Orson since then. He says his parents didn't tell him how long the boys were going to stay with their grandmother. #WestsTrial
The woman stops out of the room. #WestsTrial
She returns and continues asking questions. #WestsTrial
The boy agrees it's long time for Orrin and Orson to be at the grandmother's house. He says his parents didn't say why the boys went there. #WestsTrial
"Why do you think I'm asking you questions about Orson and Orrin?" the woman asks. "I don't know," the boy says. #WestsTrial
The woman finishes questioning him and they leave the room. Smith stopped the video. Court is in recess for 15 minutes. #WestsTrial