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tmar said:
He was an Ex Law Officer, knowing 'too much time has elapsed to be charged for the rapes'.
So admits to these.
Murders, he won't admit because there is NO TIME LIMIT.
He will, and is, being outsmarted, by today's technology.
Yippee. Karma is at work. :jail:
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Heyya Tmar

He will have been confined close to a month, soon.
Hole commented that JJD was 'catatonic' in his initial interview.
Has to be a total mind F* for JJD; the realizations and total loss of control.
 
and and https://crimewatchdaily.co...dna-brings-new-hope-to-granite-bay-cold-case/

This is a cold case that is one of many being looked at. This was only 3 miles from the Citrus Heights address. There was a report of a Volkswagon bug with a guy in it lurking outside the school and this reminded me of similar reports in some of the JJD cases. Some of these cold case murders are horrific and this is another Granite Bay one. (There isn't currently a thread for Cheryl.)

Note to mod: Please can you put a link to the GSK media thread in post number 1, so we can view and post to it?

Cheers.
 
tmar said:
Great, if he can be charged for the Rapes he has admitted to have committed.
I was getting worried.
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That would be great - so why don't they charge him ? They have 11 months left and should get on with it.
 
Tadpole12 said:
https://www.mtdemocrat.com/news/golden-state-killer-arrest-prompts-look-at-40-year-old-local-murder/

Golden State Killer arrest prompts look at 40-year-old local murder

May 18, 2018

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This is interesting for a couple of reasons. The article confirms that JJD lived in Rancho Cordova at the time of this murder. I don't remember this being mentioned before but it could well explain the Maggiores' murder ( they also lived in Rancho Cordova) , as they may well have recognised him. Do we know his exact address in Ranch Cordova in '78?
 
tmar said:
Great, if he can be charged for the Rapes he has admitted to have committed.
I was getting worried.
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Shiressleuth said:
That would be great - so why don't they charge him ? They have 11 months left and should get on with it.
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The problem is that the 1986 change in the SOL is not retroactive. In the US, it’s unconstitutional to make laws retroactive (ex post facto). It would not apply to any rapes he committed prior to 1986. I’m sure if they can find a way to charge him, they will. But they can’t use a 1986 law to charge him for crimes committed prior to that law.


MOO
 
Shiressleuth said:
That would be great - so why don't they charge him ? They have 11 months left and should get on with it.
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There is no DNA evidence for most of the rapes. There is only DNA evidence for the 3 rapes in Contra Costa County. The Sacramento County Sheriff’s Department and other jurisdictions threw away the physical evidence once the statute of limitations for the rapes passed which happened years ago which is why they have only indicted him on the murder charges.
 
Gussified said:
The problem is that the 1986 change in the SOL is not retroactive. In the US, it’s unconstitutional to make laws retroactive (ex post facto). It would not apply to any rapes he committed prior to 1986. I’m sure if they can find a way to charge him, they will. But they can’t use a 1986 law to charge him for crimes committed prior to that law.


MOO
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I misunderstood the OP. I thought they said it depended when they got the DNA match?. As they only got a match recently they could not have charged him before, I thought. Do you have a link showing the situation that you have outlined?

Thanks.

Eta I am going by Tadpole's link upthread ATM.
 
Suglo said:
There is no DNA evidence for most of the rapes. There is only DNA evidence for the 3 rapes in Contra Costa County. The Sacramento County Sheriff’s Department and other jurisdictions threw away the physical evidence once the statute of limitations for the rapes passed which happened years ago which is why they have only indicted him on the murder charges.
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If he has admitted them, does that make a difference?

Have you got a link showing they don't have the DNA anymore from pre CCCounty cases.
 
Shiressleuth said:
I misunderstood the OP. I thought they said it depended when they got the DNA match?. As they only got a match recently they could not have charged him before, I thought. Do you have a link showing the situation that you have outlined?

Thanks.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_post_facto_law

An ex post facto law (corrupted from Latin: ex postfacto, lit. 'out of the aftermath') is a law that retroactively changes the legal consequences (or status) of actions that were committed, or relationships that existed, before the enactment of the law.
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In the United States, Congress is prohibited from passing ex post facto laws by clause 3 of Article I, Section 9 of the United States Constitution. The states are prohibited from passing ex post facto laws by clause 1 of Article I, Section 10. This is one of the relatively few restrictions that the United States Constitution made to both the power of the federal and state governments before the Fourteenth Amendment.

eta: Tadpole’s link is talking about a 1986 law. A 1986 law applies to crimes committed in 1986 and later.

MOO
 
Shiressleuth said:
If he has admitted them, does that make a difference?

Have you got a link showing they don't have the DNA anymore from pre CCCounty cases.
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I don’t think admitting it makes a difference as he will most likely plead not guilty. There’s also no official statement from LE that he admitted to being EAR or the VR. That statement is hearsay that has been published by blogs and mentioned in podcasts. I haven’t seen anyone from LE confirm that he admitted it but maybe I missed it. It would be pretty silly to admit to being EAR/VR but deny being ONS when EAR and ONS are linked via DNA (through the aforementioned CCC rape kits).

As to the rape evidence, Michelle McNamara stated that the Sacramento’s physical evidence and much of the case files were destroyed at p. 158 of her book “I’ll be Gone in the Dark.”
 
Shiressleuth said:
I misunderstood the OP. I thought they said it depended when they got the DNA match?. As they only got a match recently they could not have charged him before, I thought. Do you have a link showing the situation that you have outlined?

Thanks.

Eta I am going by Tadpole's link upthread ATM.
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More...
Golden State Killer may go unpunished for 50 alleged rapes
https://www.visaliatimesdelta.com/s...50-alleged-rapes-may-go-unpunished/617714002/

Accused Golden State Killer may not serve time for rape due to statute of limitations
http://www.wwlp.com/world/accused-g...rape-due-to-statute-of-limitations/1148918224

Alleged Golden State Killer may not serve time for sexual assaults due to statute of limitations
http://www.crimeonline.com/2018/04/...exual-assaults-due-to-statute-of-limitations/

California ended its statute of limitations on rape after Bill Cosby. It may not apply to the Golden State Killer
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/26/us/golden-state-killer-statute-limitations-trnd/index.html


MOO
 
Gussified said:
More...
Golden State Killer may go unpunished for 50 alleged rapes
https://www.visaliatimesdelta.com/s...50-alleged-rapes-may-go-unpunished/617714002/

Accused Golden State Killer may not serve time for rape due to statute of limitations
http://www.wwlp.com/world/accused-g...rape-due-to-statute-of-limitations/1148918224

Alleged Golden State Killer may not serve time for sexual assaults due to statute of limitations
http://www.crimeonline.com/2018/04/...exual-assaults-due-to-statute-of-limitations/

California ended its statute of limitations on rape after Bill Cosby. It may not apply to the Golden State Killer
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/26/us/golden-state-killer-statute-limitations-trnd/index.html


MOO
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Hmmm "may" is used a lot-it doesn't sound definite imo.
 
Suglo said:
I don’t think admitting it makes a difference as he will most likely plead not guilty. There’s also no official statement from LE that he admitted to being EAR or the VR. That statement is hearsay that has been published by blogs and mentioned in podcasts. I haven’t seen anyone from LE confirm that he admitted it but maybe I missed it. It would be pretty silly to admit to being EAR/VR but deny being ONS when EAR and ONS are linked via DNA (through the aforementioned CCC rape kits).

As to the rape evidence, Michelle McNamara stated that the Sacramento’s physical evidence and much of the case files were destroyed at p. 158 of her book “I’ll be Gone in the Dark.”
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Is there a MSM or LE link re the physical evidence and case files being destroyed) to back up that book extract ( which I haven't seen )?
 
Shiressleuth said:
Is there a MSM or LE link re the physical evidence and case files being destroyed) to back up that book extract ( which I haven't seen )?
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I have been looking but can’t find anything in MSM or LE to link. I guess LE doesn’t want to stoke that fire but I have heard this for the past few years which is why there is no DNA match to any of the 40 or so rapes in this area. I guess we will all officially know one way or another in the coming months and years.
 
fred&edna said:
I am so confused as to the reports of confession.
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I’d love to see where an actual LE person said this. It was rumored on pro boards and Reddit by people who had “sources.” Those same people later retracted their statements.
 
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