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Phone showing no longer in service / disconnected IMO means NOT an accident, it means ~s o m e o n e~ purposefully cancelled said cell plan.
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That is kind of what I was thinking...before that it was ringing, after that straight to voicemail.I'm wondering if this was a translation error. The article saying "the phone was not connected" could also mean when her family called her, the calls weren't connecting. Maybe she had no service, her phone battery died, or she just wasn't answering the calls.
52Sorry but I can't remember the following info: How old is John? And do we know when he left the Navy?
While JRF may have had those skills, how many years had it been since he had actually used them?
He may have had the knowledge but age and time can take a toll on a person. So maybe he wasn't as honed as he once was.
MOO.
Here’s a map showing the various locations: Fang Jin Case Map
From Julian a turn South goes to Mexico, but a turn North takes them back to Palm Springs area.Very useful info
As some mentioned earlier in the thread...looks like Mexico could be the destination! (for one of them)
I'm down to one option now...
Surely someone has checked the Old Dale Mining district...????
ETA...for FANG!
I live in South Louisiana and we are acclimated to high temperatures with humidity often 100 percent. We don’t pay much attention to the temperature but watch the humidity. in the south, humidity is a killer. What is the humidity like in your region?
Rods, if I may, Desert Hot Springs is the locus of most of our crime out here. There is a nice section of resorts and hot springs at the foot of Mount San Gorgonio, but the rest of DHS is just as poor and dusty as Thermal. If we hear "drug bust" or "cartel murder", we think "Desert Hot Springs".Don't most people want to be further away from their own home when camping? The goal is usually go somewhere and see something new.
And didn't they head to Julian afterwards (several campgrounds on the way, more or less). At least, he apparently went to Julian but what was posted here in the past couple of days made me think that the daughters believed their mom was still with him in Julian.
This seems to be confirmation that they were camping - although with what equipment, I don't know (some people just put sleeping bags in the bed of their truck).
It's possible that Desert Hot Springs somehow got transformed into Thermal, although Thermal is definitely a good sized town out that - and that's what was in some of the LE communication, or at least so I thought. Desert Hot Springs is in the opposite direction than Thermal (and DHS is really close to where JRF lived in the first place - and immediately outside of Joshua Tree...hard for me to believe this would be a destination - not a lot there, and it's nicer to camp in Joshua Tree, if one is going to be right there). OTOH, Desert Hot Springs is expensive and more upscale. The nearby NPS campground is usually booked way in advance - I'd think that if they had been there, we'd know about it.
So, if the statements about Thermal are wrong, then we are more steps away from any reliable narrative or places to try and look or alert people to look.
IMO.
That’s a really good question. We don’t really know, LE haven’t officially released that information to the public. The info we have is based on what LE told the family in China.Just to clarify something as I’m confused, this photo of his truck floating around from a camera, is it definitely a recent photo? Has it been confirmed that this photo has been taken on a certain date/location? Or is it a photo the police found from a random day and are using it to help identify his truck?
Rods, if I may, Desert Hot Springs is the locus of most of our crime out here. There is a nice section of resorts and hot springs at the foot of Mount San Gorgonio, but the rest of DHS is just as poor and dusty as Thermal. If we hear "drug bust" or "cartel murder", we think "Desert Hot Springs".
I hear the ritzy parts are very, very nice, but all the streets I've seen there could stand in for "poor part of Mexico" in a film or TV show. (This is not to insult our neighbor to the South, which has many places of great beauty!)
They have been talking about "saving" the Salton Sea since before we moved out here in 2004. (It will cost billions of dollars and there's no real city there with enough voters to put pressure on the state government.)Thank you SO much. I think I've bumped up against this information through local crime reports - but yikes, this is why we've never been out to Borrego-DeAnza area, despite "Soaring Over California" (DCA ride) making me want to go. Badly.
I know exactly what you mean by "standing in" for parts of Mexico. There are towns in Arizona in the same condition. Which is why many of us are pondering the Salton Sea area as a vacation destination - perhaps these two are more into adventure?
It strikes me as odd that so far, we hear of only one early trip to Joshua Trip (worth several day trips) and then this ill-fated trip southward. Did JRF have friends in Thermal? Julian? Anywhere else? Was he really familiar with those areas (as a relative newcomer from the East Coast), or was this his big chance to take his truck into Parts Unknown?
For me, Occam's razor says "wilderness misadventure/truck mishap" but...the locales involved here make my head go to other scenarios.
IMO.
This has been shared as a video of JF visiting Tibet 2 years ago (she seems to be a world traveler) and was just posted. Is this allowed?? If not please delete it.
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It gives absolutely no indication of what is happening now or even a few months ago but it's prefaced as showing how she connected with people throughout her world travels. She owned and ran a hostel/airbnb/hotel in Portugal, but its business name has not been disclosed.
She is lovelyThis has been shared as a video of JF visiting Tibet 2 years ago (she seems to be a world traveler) and was just posted. Is this allowed?? If not please delete it.
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It gives absolutely no indication of what is happening now or even a few months ago but it's prefaced as showing how she connected with people throughout her world travels. She owned and ran a hostel/airbnb/hotel in Portugal, but its business name has not been disclosed.