GUILTY CA - Gianni, 24, & Sal Belvedere, 22, Ilona Flint, 22, San Diego, 24 Dec 2013 - #2

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Will they be on KNSD at 5:00 tonight? Thanks for all the heads up!!! And the pictures you posted above are wonderful! I especially love the one of Ilona with the tennie slippers on...they were all so beautiful, young and vibrant :heartluv:

I am adding more pics right now. I had some issues with godaddy so i had to switch to enom and basically recreate the entire site again within a few hours
 
This is from KNSD and also see "mikes" there from KFMB and KUSI but nothing reported on those stations. Sounds as if LE is not communicating with the family and they are on their own. Of course that's just MSM speaking. Hopefully they are still working on this case! :tantrum:

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/video/#!...aiser-Set-for-Triple-Murder-Victims/254973521

Thanks "best" for all you are doing for the family and the website looks great!

ETA: I watched this live on TV and the reporter also said that LB stated they have had no real contact with LE but in this video it was obviously snipped.
 
The Best photo I've found of Gianni...

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:grouphug: Hi to Everyone! Been sick, but trying to follow along. Saw the sisters on the news.


:bump: Tomorrow is the fundraiser to increase the reward fund. Great job, thebest.
 
:grouphug: Hi to Everyone! Been sick, but trying to follow along. Saw the sisters on the news.


:bump: Tomorrow is the fundraiser to increase the reward fund. Great job, thebest.

Feel better Curious! Your absence was noticed!!!!
 
Personally I have mixed feelings about raising the "reward" amount. If LE is advising he family to do this I would like to know the reasoning behind it. IMO it is a last ditch effort when all leads, motives and POI has dried up and LE is not willing to put the time and effort into the investigation.

This from the San Diego Union Tribune:

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/apr/11/belvedere-fund-raiser-shooting/

Now the Belvederes’ sisters, Antoinette, 27, and Laura, 30, are hoping to increase the incentive for someone to provide a tip that solves the case.

“It’s been a month, and there’s no new information, there’s no nothing. We want to keep this going so it doesn’t die down.”

San Diego and Riverside investigators have been working the case together but no arrests have been made. San Diego police homicide Lt. Mike Hastings said Friday that he had no comment about the investigation.

I especially find Lt. Hastings comment (or lack of) interesting. Why not just say this is an active investigation and I cannot comment? Of course we know that MSM is not always accurate in their statement. :twocents:
 
Personally I have mixed feelings about raising the "reward" amount. If LE is advising he family to do this I would like to know the reasoning behind it. IMO it is a last ditch effort when all leads, motives and POI has dried up and LE is not willing to put the time and effort into the investigation.

I agree, so do I. I've followed quite a few cases here now and have yet to see one where reward money helped, even when the reward was a significant amount. Obviously there might be some that I've missed, but so far in the cases I've followed it hasn't seemed to make any difference in finding a missing person, or in finding their killer.

One case I'm thinking of in particular is Elizabeth Collins and Lyric Cook, the cousins in Waterloo. From the sounds of things there are all kinds of shady people in and around their lives who you'd think would be pretty tempted to snitch, given the high reward, but as far as we've heard there's nothing. (granted, something could be going on behind the scenes that hasn't been reported)

I think if someone's a good, moral person and knows something, they'll do the right thing... and if they're not, I don't know that reward money helps that much. That said, I do think it gives the family something to focus on and feel like they're helping the investigation when they're probably feeling pretty helpless. And like I said, maybe it does work sometimes and it just didn't happen to help in the cases I've followed.
 
Jack in the box is approximately 3 miles from the freeway.
There's no gas stations located on Van Buren between the I-215 Freeway and the Jack in the Box. The first gas station isn't for another 1 3/4 miles.
The area is upper middle class.
I don't see any exterior camera's (so far), but there may be some, I'll check for sure and get back to you.

What I'd like to know is... LE gives a description of the POE. But the description is vague, (i.e., was the unique marking on the sleeves a single white band or two?).

If their description comes from eye witnesses and not camera's, then why haven't they offered at the very least an artist's rendition of the POE?
You feel me?

What does POE stand for?
 
I especially find Lt. Hastings comment (or lack of) interesting. Why not just say this is an active investigation and I cannot comment? Of course we know that MSM is not always accurate in their statement. :twocents:
RSBM
Alas, I have lost much respect for SDPD as well as SDSO investigations.
 
I agree, so do I. I've followed quite a few cases here now and have yet to see one where reward money helped, even when the reward was a significant amount. Obviously there might be some that I've missed, but so far in the cases I've followed it hasn't seemed to make any difference in finding a missing person, or in finding their killer.

One case I'm thinking of in particular is Elizabeth Collins and Lyric Cook, the cousins in Waterloo. From the sounds of things there are all kinds of shady people in and around their lives who you'd think would be pretty tempted to snitch, given the high reward, but as far as we've heard there's nothing. (granted, something could be going on behind the scenes that hasn't been reported)

I think if someone's a good, moral person and knows something, they'll do the right thing... and if they're not, I don't know that reward money helps that much. That said, I do think it gives the family something to focus on and feel like they're helping the investigation when they're probably feeling pretty helpless. And like I said, maybe it does work sometimes and it just didn't happen to help in the cases I've followed.

I agree, it does not seem to help putting up a reward - at least not in the last several years, and I have wondered why. Personally, if I had anything to tell that would help the police, I would not want a reward. I would just hope it helps catch the murderer.
 
I have never seen a case where LE was involved in any way to "increase" a reward fund. It's not ethical, IMO. The Holly Bobo case in TN with a reward fund raised to $250K did not provide the lead they needed. Good LE work all the way up to the FBI did. And frankly I do not believe the public donates to these funds the way they used to. When Justice is served, where do the funds go when not paid out to the informant? No accountability up front.

In my mind if you are going to raise funds , pay it to a reputable PI to work with LE to make sure progress is being made. JMO's
 
IMO it is imperative that the family put pressure on SDPD and knock on every media sources door to keep this story in the forefront of everyone's mind. For example the families of Amber Dubois and Chelsea King's families took on a major crusade to push LE for answers. Even though it took time to play out and justice was finally served we heard about it every day.

My heart aches for the Belvedere and Flint families and I'm sure the shock of this is still fresh for them...but it will fade fast for the community if they do not come forward and speak more about the investigation and their communications with LE. Hopefully the recent news video will be the first of many and the silence broken. If in fact LE is telling them to remain silent they need to say so.

Perhaps I'm just naïve but I don't think SDPD is doing their job. Go to the City D.A. and request further investigations or hand it off to a new detective. It seems Det. Hasting is the "media" homicide detective for every case I've seen. They need someone who will hit the ground running with this and need to be more vocal about it.

Sorry for the long post but feeling frustrated. I'm sure there is more going on behind the scenes but I can't even fathom why LE wouldn't want this in the media to flush the talkers out. More than one person knows exactly what happened that night! :banghead:

All being said I hope today brings the family what they are hoping for and hopefully it will make them feel more comfortable around the public. I hope the media is at the event today!

Enough of my rant :facepalm:
 
It's such a sad situation I'm going to hit up the fundraiser a little later on I'm not sure if I am allowed to post who I am but since I am verified I don't think it matters [modsnip] if you see me feel free to say hi :) I'm just going to drop off some flowers for the parents and make a donation but I'll definitely mention getting someone more vocal and out there. I know the parents are still devastated and LE is failing them. If I hear anything tonight worth mentioning I'll post when I get home

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It's such a sad situation I'm going to hit up the fundraiser a little later on I'm not sure if I am allowed to post who I am but since I am verified I don't think it matters [modsnip] if you see me feel free to say hi :) I'm just going to drop off some flowers for the parents and make a donation but I'll definitely mention getting someone more vocal and out there. I know the parents are still devastated and LE is failing them. If I hear anything tonight worth mentioning I'll post when I get home

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Without a doubt I'm sure the family appreciates everything you have done for them and so do I :loveyou: I thought about going but decided not. I saw it on KFMB and it looks like the media is not allowed in but can report from outside so not much to report. What happened to the PI they talked to?

What you are doing for the family is awesome!!! HUGS girl!
 
I agree, it does not seem to help putting up a reward - at least not in the last several years, and I have wondered why. Personally, if I had anything to tell that would help the police, I would not want a reward. I would just hope it helps catch the murderer.

Same here, and I'm willing to bet a lot of people feel that way.

ETA: and, I have this feeling that the ones who don't feel this way probably don't want to talk to LE for other reasons, which may be why rewards don't seem to help. I'd love to see them use the money for a PI and maybe a publicity person who can help keep the story out there and keep the pressure on.
 
Same here, and I'm willing to bet a lot of people feel that way.

ETA: and, I have this feeling that the ones who don't feel this way probably don't want to talk to LE for other reasons, which may be why rewards don't seem to help. I'd love to see them use the money for a PI and maybe a publicity person who can help keep the story out there and keep the pressure on.

There are so many PIs I've talked to willing to do it for free Le just won't help at all

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Best, maybe you can talk to the family about setting up a FB page...Justice for Gianni, Sal & Ilona? Of course it would need admins that are active in updates, stories, etc. It seems social media is an easier way for people to communicate and say things they would not do in person. The website is lovely but not interactive and maybe through SM people will talk more? My only concern is that the family would let it go stale and not post.

Just a thought?
 
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