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No surprise there.JUST IN - Hart family crash update: Jury has ruled that the parents, Jennifer (who was driving) & Sarah Hart committed suicide and all six children “died at hands of another, other than by accident.”
https://twitter.com/BonnieSilkman/status/111395316643586867235868672
I think he was determined to be dead before this. (Officially) At least I thought I read that somewhere. ImoHow are they ruling that Devonte is dead without a body?? Ugh. i've read about all the scenarios and I know better not to have hope but it's still so so sad and unbelievable...
Slates testified that shortly after leaving their Woodland, Washington, home on March 23, the family stopped at a Walmart, where Sarah ran inside and bought a bottle of generic brand Benadryl.
Hours later, she would search Google about overdosing.
“Can 500 ml of Benadryl kill a 120 pound woman?” she searched, Slates testified. She reportedly also searched, “How can I easily overdose on over-the-counter medications?” and “What will happen when overdosing with Benadryl?”
“How long does it take to die from hypothermia in water while drowning in a car?” Sarah also searched, according to Slates’ testimony.
Right after Googling, Sarah would delete each search from her phone, Slate testified.
One of the final searches on her phone, Slate testified, was searching for no-kill shelters for dogs.
The family’s dogs have not been accounted for and are believed to have been in the vehicle with the family.
I think they were also concerned about how things would look after they were all gone. That's why they stocked up on food before the drive off the cliff, and had fresh apples on the table.I don’t think they were worried about losing the children. They were worried about going to prison.
I think they were also concerned about how things would look after they were all gone. That's why they stocked up on food before the drive off the cliff, and had fresh apples on the table.
They wanted the whole thing to look like a tragic accident. Imo
Speculation... but I think that means that they could only document levels in 3 of the kids. Devonte's body has not been found, Siera's was badly decomposed, and Hannah only had partial remains recovered. They may have all been given Benadryl, but it's unlikely that detailed toxicology testing could be performed for all.Perhaps. Maybe they superficially intended for the cliff plunge to look like an accident, but I'm skeptical about that.
It's hard for me to imagine that 2 relatively smart women could be that stupid. Did they really think their movements could not be tracked? Did they think paying cash completely covered their movements versus a credit card? Did they not know every inch of stores are monitored with security cameras, most especially check out lines?? Did they really think all they had to do was "delete" the history of a search on a smart phone and *poof*, it was "gone"? And did they really think that the high doses of Benadryl would never be discovered in their bodies??
To me, their actions in leaving (panicked fleeing, escaping), and once they continued on the run down the coast seem chaotic, unplanned (or planned only briefly before implementing), and on the fly. Impulsive. All they could process, IMO, was fleeing. Run. Escape. Must take kids and run. Unable to rationally process any coping decisions beyond fleeing with the kids, and ultimately ending it all in cowardly drug induced Thelma and Louise plunge, taking 6 innocents with them.
Their actions every single time they were confronted about problems with the kids, allegations of abuse, were to take the kids and run away/ move away/ get away. Murder/ suicide is the ultimate "run away" move. I think they were tired of running away, and didn't care about how they were found. They only seemed to care that they were powerful enough take the kids lives in addition to their own.
I find it interesting that only 3 of the kids had high levels of Benadryl in their systems. I also wonder about the interval between drug ingestion and death-- at that kind of enteric dosage (especially if the drug was in pill or capsule form), vomiting would be common.
I wonder if 2-3 of them were going along with the suicide plan, and 3 weren't, so those 3 had to be persuaded to cooperate with chemicals? Or were the kids allowed to choose whether or not to take the drugs to dull their senses? That wouldn't make sense to me, because the Hart kids were hardly ever allowed to make any decisions for themselves. It would seem odd if they were "allowed" to decide whether or not to take an overdose of drugs in preparation for their death.
I do think the kids were almost certainly victims of "Stockholm Syndrome". The continuous psychological manipulation these kids suffered was extreme, IMO.
Guess she cared more about the dogs than for themselves and the kids.
Yeah, that's what I thought too until I learned that she googled whether or not drowning was painful. How can they not know that? Sarah could not have been too sensible if she made that comment to her co-worker about how she wished someone had told her she didn't "have to" have a lot of kids.Perhaps. Maybe they superficially intended for the cliff plunge to look like an accident, but I'm skeptical about that.
It's hard for me to imagine that 2 relatively smart women could be that stupid. Did they really think their movements could not be tracked? Did they think paying cash completely covered their movements versus a credit card? Did they not know every inch of stores are monitored with security cameras, most especially check out lines?? Did they really think all they had to do was "delete" the history of a search on a smart phone and *poof*, it was "gone"? And did they really think that the high doses of Benadryl would never be discovered in their bodies??
To me, their actions in leaving (panicked fleeing, escaping), and once they continued on the run down the coast seem chaotic, unplanned (or planned only briefly before implementing), and on the fly. Impulsive. All they could process, IMO, was fleeing. Run. Escape. Must take kids and run. Unable to rationally process any coping decisions beyond fleeing with the kids, and ultimately ending it all in cowardly drug induced Thelma and Louise plunge, taking 6 innocents with them.
Their actions every single time they were confronted about problems with the kids, allegations of abuse, were to take the kids and run away/ move away/ get away. Murder/ suicide is the ultimate "run away" move. I think they were tired of running away, and didn't care about how they were found. They only seemed to care that they were powerful enough take the kids lives in addition to their own.
I find it interesting that only 3 of the kids had high levels of Benadryl in their systems. I also wonder about the interval between drug ingestion and death-- at that kind of enteric dosage (especially if the drug was in pill or capsule form), vomiting would be common.
I wonder if 2-3 of them were going along with the suicide plan, and 3 weren't, so those 3 had to be persuaded to cooperate with chemicals? Or were the kids allowed to choose whether or not to take the drugs to dull their senses? That wouldn't make sense to me, because the Hart kids were hardly ever allowed to make any decisions for themselves. It would seem odd if they were "allowed" to decide whether or not to take an overdose of drugs in preparation for their death.
I do think the kids were almost certainly victims of "Stockholm Syndrome". The continuous psychological manipulation these kids suffered was extreme, IMO.
Speculation... but I think that means that they could only document levels in 3 of the kids. Devonte's body has not been found, Siera's was badly decomposed, and Hannah only had partial remains recovered. They may have all been given Benadryl, but it's unlikely that detailed toxicology testing could be performed for all.
What gives me chills is that they gave each of the children perhaps 20 of the pills and told them to swallow them. They were old enough to know that something was wrong. What was going through their minds is in incomprehensible.
I'm not a religious person, but God bless those children's Souls.
And damn the parents.