CA - Hasanni Campbell, 5, Oakland, 10 Aug 2009 - #2

[FifthEssence]

And let's not forget, the recent article over the weekend about DCF saying neither the little sister or Hasanni, IF found, will be returning to Jennifer C. & Ross' care.
LE had him figured out early on.

PRAYERS his little body is found.

 

[mitzi]

I was actually just watching the 10pm KTVU Channel 2 news and it is being reported that the foster dad has failed his polygraph test and is no longer doing interviews. I don't have a link to the report yet, but it is not looking good for poor Hassani. There was also a mention to the dog's not being able to pick up Hassani's scent in that driveway.

Praying for Hassani!

Bold mine.

Da*n!

 

[Shutterfly]

A sword....WTF is that about I wonder? That's bizarre.

 

[ForensicsFan]

My family's been very busy the last few days with our kids starting school, so I haven't gotten a chance to catch up here. But I just saw the news story on the polygraph and search warrant, and wanted to add my wife's insight from the vigil, in case it adds anything.

She said that the press estimates of 30 supporters showing up were overestimates. She said that most of the attendees were press. In fact, she guessed that in addition to the few people there wearing t-shirts and passing out flyers (who seemed like family and friends), there were maybe 10 other people there (neighbors from Rockridge largely).

She also wondered why in the world they scheduled the vigil for 4 p.m. on a Monday. Of course, this was to commemorate the one week mark since the disappearance, but it's not a time most people with jobs can attend. Granted, we both feel the community response to the disappearance has been shockingly low -- if you go a few blocks down College Avenue, you can't find a flyer in a store window. And there were certainly people who could have shown up. But we have been to and seen other community vigils, both for crime victims and for anti-war protests, and all had larger gatherings. Of course, all were scheduled after 6 p.m. and publicized in advance (this one seemed to be announced that morning). Police were noticeably absent.

My wife is generally an empathetic woman. Her heart goes out to everyone and she tends to give people the benefit of the doubt even when she probably shouldn't. However, her impression of the vigil was that LR was putting on a performance. She felt badly saying so even as she told me and of course mentioned she hated judging parents who could possibly be under this much stress. But she said that the news clips of his speech at the vigil were not an accurate picture. She said there was very, very little time given to talk of finding Hassani (or Hassani at all), but the majority of time was LR defending his actions of that day. In her opinion, he seemed to "turn on" the anger or emotion all of a sudden out of nowhere to maximum intensity. She said the emphatic parts from his speech shown on the news were less believable in person. "His eyes didn't match his face, and his face didn't match his voice" were her words. The one part that stuck with her (shown on the news, I believe) was where he said, "We gave a damn!" She said that the parts he spoke around that made the sudden emphasis seem shallow and feigned. She said she didn't even believe his anger, that it seemed more like indignance.

Most of the attendees went up to lend their support afterwards to the couple or talk to the press. She actually went up and gave them both a hug and spoke a few words with each of them. Again, her gut told her that something was very off. She also felt that LR was very oddly defensive when she overheard other people speak words to him at more length that were ultimately kind and supportive. I'll have to ask her permission to share her short exchange with JC and LR on the board since she's the boss around here. =)

 

[ForensicsFan]

Also, regarding the layout of the block:

That particular block is extremely confusing. I thought I understood it well having lived here for many years and walked it frequently. However, that evening, I took a walk through the adjacent areas and even I was surprised. I'm going to see if I can upload a hand-drawn map here as a visual aid as well as some photos of portions of the block you may not have seen in the press and some vigil pictures.

Basically, the small parking lot is as I've always known it. However, beyond the parking lot is not an alley so much as a service entryway (the one you see as an open archway). Beyond it is a narrow walkway that leads to PG&E boxes and the like -- nowhere else. It dead ends. The gated opening (not the black square one to the back of the store but the one on the left back if you're looking into the driveway towards the apartments) I could not get through. I believe it leads to something for the neighboring property (the second property on College Avenue, just after the one the shoe store is in).

If you walk the route LR did, onto College Ave, about 2/3 of the way down the block is a street called Armanino Court. This is not an alley, but a private street. It's an odd one though, in that it pretty much splits the block and you would pull out in a small dip literally in between two storefronts -- it's marked with a street sign, very narrow and fairly short. Down Armanino are a few houses -- it's a cul de sac of sorts. On the right side is an apartment complex we've heard so much about. To clarify, there are two sets of apartments on the block -- one, on Armanino (motel style setup) that has a fence that would be extremely hard to hop with a child in tow (with trellis in most parts adding height). The second complex is really upper stories of the building on the block. In my opinion, from that building, you would have to lean your head practically against the glass to get a good view of the parking lot from the apartment complex windows.

If you travel down Auburn (around the other corner from Harwood, parallel to College Ave), and look down towards the driveway/building in question, you really cannot catch meaningful glimpses of the parking lot.

Also, I would like to mention that you really cannot see through the empty baby store on the corner. The glare is terrible and the walls and windows are at a height that you really see more reflection than anything. However, not sure if it's been covered here but there is a small (almost unnoticeable) architecture firm between the parking lot and the empty baby corner store. I'm sure they've been interviewed -- it appears they are set up a ways back from the door anyhow -- but he would have passed it on the way there and back.

I'll post pictures and a map next.

 

[ForensicsFan]

I read it was a job orientation that evening, then he was to go to his medical asst. class in, I think, Union City. MOO

I heard one news report saying that it was actually a volunteer job at Stanford. I'm wondering if this is the one they are talking about?

http://edupry.appspot.com/_e_d_u_i2...pj7Wt87Hsi7WNduD~IuYQi7WNIh8RJ2HqjCH~9-WnjCUp

It seems there was a volunteer orientation Aug. 10 (the day Hassani went missing) from 5-7 p.m.

Perhaps volunteer work of this kind is encouraged or required by the medical assistant class/program?

 

[Shutterfly]

I heard one news report saying that it was actually a volunteer job at Stanford. I'm wondering if this is the one they are talking about?

http://edupry.appspot.com/_e_d_u_i2...pj7Wt87Hsi7WNduD~IuYQi7WNIh8RJ2HqjCH~9-WnjCUp

It seems there was a volunteer orientation Aug. 10 (the day Hassani went missing) from 5-7 p.m.

Perhaps volunteer work of this kind is encouraged or required by the medical assistant class/program?

Good catch FF!

 

[ForensicsFan]

Now some news sources are spelling his name Hassanni, and Hasanni, and also now Hasani and Hassani. Just to keep people updated on the variations for your searches.

Yup, wife said at the vigil a reporter asked him to confirm the spelling of the name and he did, but she said it was different from the spelling on the shirt LR was wearing.

I don't think this is the same LWR. The resume speaks of a higher degree of people skills than LWR exhibited.

Most of his skills seem to me to be really vague. I could start my own business and then say I've had global sales experience if I have get a single client in Canada. Seems to repeat buzzwords over and over. Plus 10 years experience in all areas doesn't speak to much depth in any one. Someone with that much experience would usually show more accelerated growth over time (starting smaller, getting bigger) and most people would put in measurements ("increased sales volume by 9 percent per quarter", etc.). Also look at all the time overlap. None of these were probably huge deals. Just my opinion. Also remember so much can be done online, over email and on the phone these days.

 

[ForensicsFan]

My wife snapped these pics at my request from the sidewalk.

 

[ForensicsFan]

Here are a few more vigil pictures.

 

[Pegatha]

I just wanted to make sure you guys saw this..it says he (Ross) failed the LDT...and that TWO witnesses say they saw Hasanni in the car on August 10th.
http://www.ktvu.com/news/20467597/detail.html

Good article Stufferfly, thanks. From the article:

"On Wednesday, KTVU also obtained the inventory sheet that listed what officers took during the search. The list included one pair of latex gloves taken from the vehicle as well as eight DNA swabs and four fingerprint lifts taken from the car. I was going to excuse the latex gloves, because I have a box in my house. I use them for any messy chore, craft project, etc. But, having them in the car seems rather strange to me. Although, if he knew he was going to be rummaging around a junk yard, and needed to keep his hands clean for work it could be explained.

"KTVU also learned from authorities that certain evidence indicates it is unlikely Hasanni wandered off.
Law enforcement sources told KTVU that search dogs never led their handlers on what's called a "hot trail" on the afternoon Hasanni disappeared, meaning the dogs never picked up a scent that led handlers away from the lot.
Sources said the dogs did pick up Hasanni's scent inside Ross's BMW. They said the boy was either snatched by someone as he was standing by the car or he was never in the back lot that day." This doesn't look good for either Hasanni or Ross IMO.

 

[doobiedoo52]

In reference to the duties of medical assistants: both my daughter and daughter in law are medical assistants. They are trained in nursing duties as well as office duties. In Iowa most work more in the nursing area. They have more hands on training than say an LPN--they learn blood draws, etc as well as basic LPN knowledge. He would not be doing any patient work at classes at a college--they would only practice on each other with shots, blood draws, etc. They do the actual patient work during their externship at a regular medical facility. Besides, one of the first things you learn with latex gloves is to dispose of them in a biohazard container if they're used. Can't imagine why he'd be carrying them around.

 

[WhyaDuck?]

by 'patients like this' do you mean children with MS? If so - children with MS usually see specialists such as neurologists, ortho docs, pediatric specialists in MS etc. MS children require special care because of their numerous medical anomalies...over half have seizure disorders, and almost all are on antispasmodic meds., and an array of other medications that require oversight. Physical Therapists are highly involved with these children. A pediatric specialist in MS would have nurses and medical assistants specially trained in the area of MS disease state. I am sure the state of California affords these children the very best of treatment. I can't imagine this child living long without his medications, treatment, and continuous assessment.

The Pediatric Specialists and specialty nurses in the arena of MS are dedicated, caring, empathic and extremely knowledgeable...I can't imagine Ross ever, ever, fitting in. mho

ETA: This info is from the eyes of a pharmacist

No, sorry - I mean "in this manner" - as in, do they handle patients in such ways that they would need latex gloves with them at all times. Sorry - it was late.

 

[momtective]

Witnesses who saw Hassani crying in the car at the auto salvage and now the possibility that he was NOT in the parking lot behind Shuz...hummm I'm thinking LR lost it with Hassani after leaving the auto salvage. But if LR did do the unthinkable (maybe backhanded him, choked him, or covered his mouth with his hand and suffocated him) and Hassani died in the BMW wouldn't the dogs have picked up scent of decomp? I'm wondering if maybe Hassani could have been near death but not dead when LR removed him from the car. That would explain why there was no decomp scent in the car.
If only the baby girl could talk...we would have the answers. :sad:

 

[believe09]

Witnesses who saw Hassani crying in the car at the auto salvage and now the possibility that he was NOT in the parking lot behind Shuz...hummm I'm thinking LR lost it with Hassani after leaving the auto salvage. But if LR did do the unthinkable (maybe backhanded him, choked him, or covered his mouth with his hand and suffocated him) and Hassani died in the BMW wouldn't the dogs have picked up scent of decomp? I'm wondering if maybe Hassani could have been near death but not dead when LR removed him from the car. That would explain why there was no decomp scent in the car.
If only the baby girl could talk...we would have the answers. :sad:

Great question, but I believe that in order for decomp to be scented by the dogs, it has to be at least an hour or a few hours old to get the right scent of parts per million that the cadaver dog can pick up on. Beyond that, I would think that there would have been other physical evidence in the car like urine from evacuation? I think what most struck me about the article was the DNA swabs and the fact that scent dogs didnt track him outside of the car. I hope they took scent dogs to the salvage yard as well. And in case I didn't state the obvious, scent/tracker and cadaver dogs have different specialties in terms of scenting. Wonder if they have taken any cadaver dogs out?

 

[WhyaDuck?]

Great question, but I believe that in order for decomp to be scented by the dogs, it has to be at least an hour or a few hours old to get the right scent of parts per million that the cadaver dog can pick up on. Beyond that, I would think that there would have been other physical evidence in the car like urine from evacuation? I think what most struck me about the article was the DNA swabs and the fact that scent dogs didnt track him outside of the car. I hope they took scent dogs to the salvage yard as well. And in case I didn't state the obvious, scent/tracker and cadaver dogs have different specialties in terms of scenting. Wonder if they have taken any cadaver dogs out?

Yes, I believe they are most effective after the bacteria in the body has started to culture, in those few hours after death. However, if there was blood at the scene, they'd be able to pick that up.

I keep thinking of that "sword or cutting instrument" SW... What awful words.

 

[momtective]

I'm just wondering if the witnesses are sure they saw Hassani crying and not his little sister. Perhaps LR's trip to the salvage yard was for the purpose of disposing of Hassani's body but once he was there he found that the location was not suitable because of cameras or too much traffic.

 

[YellowSubmarine]

I think most of us, if not all of us, thought LR had something to do with Hasanni's disappearance BUT to see that LE was looking for a "sword or cutting instrument" is just awful. Makes me sick.

 

[Columbo]

He failed the LDT.

He got on national tv and got angry but yet he failed the LDT.

A search warrant for a sword (WTH?) or cutting intstrument? Judges don't usually sign off on search warrants unless you give them a very good reason to even in a missing child case. IMHO.

This son of a ____ needs to shut up and tell where he put Hassani. I"m pizzed now.
Sorry for the rant.

I wonder if he tossed the cutting instrument in the marshlands. Or maybe that's why he went to the salvage yard--he secreted it in one of the cars there..

 

[momtective]

Or maybe that's why he went to the salvage yard--he secreted it in one of the cars there..

Oh that is a brilliant thought! :bow: