Deceased/Not Found CA - Heidi Planck, 39, left son’s football game in Downey, dog found in Los Angeles, 17 Oct 2021 #4

[MadMcGoo]

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[Keyedin]

Just as a side note, please keep in mind that the alleged substance abuse history came from DM or The Sun through excerpts from JW's filing alleging she had a substance abuse problem.

I'll tell you like the judge tells the jury, you are free to give as much weight, or no weight, to any person's words as you feel necessary given the credibility you determine them to have. Just keep in mind, there's no solid proof anywhere that there was a history of drug abuse, that I've seen anyway.

JMO

 

[whitelilac]

We have to keep her son in mind too. He may one day read about all the speculation about his mother.

 

[hey-Debbie]

I remember the days when the mainstream media in the US was the gold standard. Imo, they are no better than the DM now. Sometimes I will be reading an article that is so poorly written and have the facts wrong, that I double check to see if it is the DM. Nope, it is usually NBC or CBS and their local affiliates.

Moo.

Journalism and facts and truth have fallen to the wayside lately. And not to mention grammar and proof reading.

 

[PaulaDC]

What did I miss? Is there a release as to why there's a search HP? A lead?

 

[PaulaDC]

What did I miss? Is there a release as to why there's a search HP? A lead?

Ah, I found a great article answering my question. I've been under the weather and must have scrolled through the important info.

 

[Strong1]

So with this search and the statement that LE put out it seems they are pretty confident in the direction they are going. But I wonder if they are still pursuing other possible leads. The 1-5 people statement the ex said is pretty specific. So do they have a suspect or suspects on their radar and are just looking for the connection?

 

[Ducky123]

So with this search and the statement that LE put out it seems they are pretty confident in the direction they are going. But I wonder if they are still pursuing other possible leads. The 1-5 people statement the ex said is pretty specific. So do they have a suspect or suspects on their radar and are just looking for the connection?

If I had to guess, I feel like they’ve got it figured out. The range is weird, but maybe they just want to keep it open ended since he’s tended to take things and run with it as far as statements go?

Another thought about the parking thing, apologies if someone else has brought this up (I’ve been skipping around the thread the last few days). We know from her friend’s statement that HP had her pick her up. I’m not sure if this is a typical thing for her, but LA is a driving reliant city. Is it possible she is just uncomfortable driving? She has a nice car. Maybe there’s some silly reason she parked far away. Like the guest/public lot was full, or had only tight spots available. Maybe she doesn’t like parallel parking. I know I’m willing to go very far out of my way to avoid it. Maybe this other underground garage was easier or more convenient and she used it when she visited H+F. MOO of course, throwing out ideas.

 

[swedeheart]

For anyone who's interested in a re-cap, of all we know so far, and some fantastic mapping (and some VERY cute doggies, too).

Starts at about 1:49:30:

 

[bears10]

I don’t understand what the SEC has to do with the Arcadian/Cura lawsuit. But looking big picture, yes, she has her hand dipped in a lot of complicated and messy pots. Even tangentially.

I don’t think this has to do with work anymore. It’s possible it involves people she met through work, I just don’t see how the stakes are so high in any of these situations that someone who files paperwork would be need to be killed. I could be wrong though. As we know, money does make people crazy.

bbm. I totally agree. I know I’ve been beating a dead horse, but AFAIK all we know she has done is filed annual corp filings. They take two seconds to do, and anyone can do it. I might be missing/forgetting something, but I don’t see how doing annual filings equates to someone being very involved in a company’s shady dealings. The filings are just to confirm/update the company’s info and they are not financial at all. Jmo

 

[Keyedin]

bbm. I totally agree. I know I’ve been beating a dead horse, but AFAIK all we know she has done is filed annual corp filings. They take two seconds to do, and anyone can do it. I might be missing/forgetting something, but I don’t see how doing annual filings equates to someone being very involved in a company’s shady dealings. The filings are just to confirm/update the company’s info and they are not financial at all. Jmo

I think it all goes back to how she's listed on the filings. She's listed as controller on some and manager on others. I spent some time the other day going through entities where are a listed on open corporates, or whatever that website is, and checking the SOS of the states where the entities were registered. I didn't get through them all because there's a ton of them.

 

[StarRemy8]

Does anyone here know what the process is to start an LLC or is it just simply only filling out a form online and what would/could you be responsible for with your name being associated? With HP's name being on so many active and canceled LLCs I am curious what legal liability she has with her name on them. Can this form just be filled out online only and anyone could use anyones name/address, does it require you to be in person at some point and show an ID, do you ever have to actually put your signature, not just electronically on anything, is it notarized etc.? I am just wondering if when it has been said that HP was saying JS had her name on a lot of documents if that means he could have just used her name with or without her permission and more so what, if any, legal implications would there be for her with her name on them?

If JS was laundering money and moving it around in all the LLCs by opening them and then closing them if she is the Agent of Service of Process listed on these does anyone know what exactly that means? What would her responsibility be and what or even would she be held accountable for any criminal behavior going on within these LLCs if she actually never personally "moved money" or if she did was just executing what was asked of her without knowing/understanding anything criminal was taking place?

 

[Cloudydiamond]

Does anyone here know what the process is to start an LLC or is it just simply only filling out a form online? With HP's name being on so many active and canceled LLCs I am curious what legal liability she has with her name on them. Can this form just be filled out online only and anyone could use anyones name/address, does it require you to be in person at some point and show an ID, do you ever have to actually put your signature, not just electronically on anything, is it notarized etc.? I am just wondering if when it has been said that HP was saying JS had her name on a lot of documents if that means he could have just used her name with or without her permission and more so what, if any, legal implications would there be for her with her name on them?

If JS was laundering money and moving it around in all the LLCs by opening them and then closing them if she is the Agent of Service of Process listed on these does anyone know what exactly that means? What would her responsibility be and what or even would she be held accountable for any criminal behavior going on within these LLCs if she actually never personally "moved money" or if she did was just executing what was asked of her without knowing/understanding anything criminal was taking place?

You can form an LLC in 10 minutes online with electronic signatures. Many of her LLC list her as the business contact. Many are at his address and others as the Agent, and she is only the business contact.

 

[Keyedin]

You can form an LLC in 10 minutes online with electronic signatures. Many of her LLC list her as the business contact. Many are at his address and others as the Agent, and she is only the business contact.

There are several corporations that she is affiliated with listed as Delaware corporations. I think the reason for this is due to Delaware having different requirements for what is listed on the filings. You don't have list the members/managers of an entity, to my knowledge, and it provides a sort of privacy. In looking at Nevada's SOS, which is where some of the entities are registered, they also don't require a whole lot of detailed information, at least not on the website. California SOS, along with some other states, allow public users to view the filings and see members listed, etc.

There are also companies that are set up now solely to aid in setting up LLC's. I've seen a couple of the LLC's HP is associated with that are done that way. I think one company that does this is Legal Zoom. There's a few others, but basically you provide all the basic info and they put it together, file the formation documents and act as the registered agent. This keeps individuals from being listed with the company.

 

[Cloudydiamond]

There are several corporations that she is affiliated with listed as Delaware corporations. I think the reason for this is due to Delaware having different requirements for what is listed on the filings. You don't have list the members/managers of an entity, to my knowledge, and it provides a sort of privacy. In looking at Nevada's SOS, which is where some of the entities are registered, they also don't require a whole lot of detailed information, at least not on the website. California SOS, along with some other states, allow public users to view the filings and see members listed, etc.

There are also companies that are set up now solely to aid in setting up LLC's. I've seen a couple of the LLC's HP is associated with that are done that way. I think one company that does this is Legal Zoom. There's a few others, but basically you provide all the basic info and they put it together, file the formation documents and act as the registered agent. This keeps individuals from being listed with the company.

Yes, each state is different. I did see those LLC's listed as registered agents too. There are way too many with her name attached...

 

[Ducky123]

There are several corporations that she is affiliated with listed as Delaware corporations. I think the reason for this is due to Delaware having different requirements for what is listed on the filings. You don't have list the members/managers of an entity, to my knowledge, and it provides a sort of privacy. In looking at Nevada's SOS, which is where some of the entities are registered, they also don't require a whole lot of detailed information, at least not on the website. California SOS, along with some other states, allow public users to view the filings and see members listed, etc.

There are also companies that are set up now solely to aid in setting up LLC's. I've seen a couple of the LLC's HP is associated with that are done that way. I think one company that does this is Legal Zoom. There's a few others, but basically you provide all the basic info and they put it together, file the formation documents and act as the registered agent. This keeps individuals from being listed with the company.

I don’t think the reason for forming in Delaware is to avoid listing information. There are many benefits of forming in Delaware (it’s the most popular state for formation). Delaware has a very sophisticated set of corporate laws, courts, and established case law. Low tax rate and fees of course too. Nevada is popular as well. IMO. I don’t think there’s anything shady about why she incorporates companies in these states.

 

[?!?]

I don’t think the reason for forming in Delaware is to avoid listing information. There are many benefits of forming in Delaware (it’s the most popular state for formation). Delaware has a very sophisticated set of corporate laws, courts, and established case law. Low tax rate and fees of course too. Nevada is popular as well. IMO. I don’t think there’s anything shady about why she incorporates companies in these states.

IMO, she was probably not sufficiently sophisticated to fully understand what she was doing - she was just doing what the mastermind instructed. With the heat being raised, she became aware that she was in jeopardy, and reacted in a way that cost her her life.

 

[Ducky123]

IMO, she was probably not sufficiently sophisticated to fully understand what she was doing - she was just doing what the mastermind instructed. With the heat being raised, she became aware that she was in jeopardy, and reacted in a way that cost her her life.

Maybe, but I’m just addressing the Delaware incorporation. Whether or not she was aware of the specific details of why she was doing certain things, Delaware is not suspicious to me at all.

 

[StarRemy8]

IMO, she was probably not sufficiently sophisticated to fully understand what she was doing - she was just doing what the mastermind instructed. With the heat being raised, she became aware that she was in jeopardy, and reacted in a way that cost her her life.

So with her name being listed as agent though, would she be held responsible for the LLCs financial activity and any criminal activity involved? If her name is on it but JS is actually the one moving all the money through accounts would she be in jeopardy of legal ramifications or is being the agent solely just the process of filling out the LLC form and more just an administrative thing? And even if she was the one moving the money around as instructed could she legally be held accountable for following directions from her superior or is there even a way to prove or disprove your knowledge, understanding, intent or level of involvement should you unknowingly be taking part in criminal activity?

 

[Ducky123]

So with her name being listed as agent though, would she be held responsible for the LLCs financial activity and any criminal activity involved? If her name is on it but JS is actually the one moving all the money through accounts would she be in jeopardy of legal ramifications or is being the agent solely just the process of filling out the LLC form and more just an administrative thing? And even if she was the one moving the money around as instructed could she legally be held accountable for following directions from her superior or is there even a way to prove or disprove your knowledge, understanding, intent or level of involvement should you unknowingly be taking part in criminal activity?

Hypothetically speaking, yes of course she could be charged if there were illegal activities happening (LLCs protect directors from personal liability, financially. This doesn’t apply to illegal activity though.) She is listed as more than just the agent for service, often she’s listed as a director/officer. As such, all actions would need to be made in good faith. She would need to get a lawyer to put together a defense, it’s not something she would be able to do preemptively. But there have been no such charges that we are aware of. JMO