CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #18

[asyousay]

It’s been 4 months and all the PT has managed to do is show CM potentially had motive but so did several others. They have not connected him to the murders whatsoever, they have not produced one iota of physical forensic evidence. All they’ve done is recited a potpourri of innuendos suggesting Merritt’s guilt, not unlike a magic trick relying upon the power of suggestion, repeat something enough times and it must be true.

I will not be swayed until I see reliable evidence linking Merritt to either the alleged crime scene or the burial site.

You mean besides forging cheques and his truck being at the crime scene on the night in question?

His phone pinging around the burial site , his trace DNA being on the gear shift even though he has admitted he never drove the truck.

Talking about the family in past tense and the list goes on.

 

[Texas Red]

You mean besides forging cheques

As I stated this would potentially show motive but is in no way evidence of murder.

his truck being at the crime scene on the night in question?

I believe the PT’s attempt to show this ended up crashing in a ball of flames.

His phone pinging around the burial site

This part of the dog & pony show is nothing more than unreliable manufactured evidence.

his trace DNA being on the gear shift even though he has admitted he never drove the truck.

He admitted to being in the Trooper with the driver so his DNA could be anywhere in the Trooper.

Talking about the family in past tense

Power of suggestion, the investigators used the same terminology, referring to the McStay’s in the past tenths when interviewing CM. It’s an old investigative trick used by LE when they have no real evidence.

and the list goes on.

Oh, yes there is the photo of Merritt standing in a hole with a shovel, by golly, he must be guilty!

 

[Mony Mony]

Sneaky Maline and more pointless questioning of H anke. Just wasting time.

 

[Longtimenoc]

It’s been 4 months and all the PT has managed to do is show CM potentially had motive but so did several others. They have not connected him to the murders whatsoever, they have not produced one iota of physical forensic evidence. All they’ve done is recited a potpourri of innuendos suggesting Merritt’s guilt, not unlike a magic trick relying upon the power of suggestion, repeat something enough times and it must be true.

I will not be swayed until I see reliable evidence linking Merritt to either the alleged crime scene or the burial site.

The one iota would be the check Merritt printed out the last night of the Mcstay family lives. How can you disregard that?

 

[Texas Red]

The one iota would be the check Merritt printed out the last night of the Mcstay family lives. How can you disregard that?

Even if this actually happened, which IMO, hasn't been substantiated, we do not know if in fact it was the last night of the McStay's lives. Or if the person/persons doing so, were in fact the killer/killers. There are just too many loose ends and unanswered question to assert that CM's guilt has been proven BARD.

 

[missingm]

The one iota would be the check Merritt printed out the last night of the Mcstay family lives. How can you disregard that?

The defense appears to be that Joey gave Chase permission to write checks to himself and forge his signature. Probably at the time his legs were broken and family was being killed.

 

[geevee]

It’s been 4 months and all the PT has managed to do is show CM potentially had motive but so did several others. They have not connected him to the murders whatsoever, they have not produced one iota of physical forensic evidence. All they’ve done is recited a potpourri of innuendos suggesting Merritt’s guilt, not unlike a magic trick relying upon the power of suggestion, repeat something enough times and it must be true.

I will not be swayed until I see reliable evidence linking Merritt to either the alleged crime scene or the burial site.

They do place him in the house the night of the murders creating a check with his name on it (and subsequently creating and printing a nearly identical check the next day [and then cashing it]). Really hard to put anyone else's name on these murders other than the one on that check.

Mooooo

 

[missingm]

Even if this actually happened, which IMO, hasn't been substantiated, we do not know if in fact it was the last night of the McStay's lives. Or if the person/persons doing so, were in fact the killer/killers. There are just too many loose ends and unanswered question to assert that CM's guilt has been proven BARD.

All of the evidence surrounding the QuickBooks accounts center on Chase. He wrote, printed, and deleted checks to himself. He tried to delete the entire ledger. The checks were cashed by Chase.

 

[asyousay]

Not forgetting Chase then rung Quick Books to try and delete the evidence of what he had done.

 

[Longtimenoc]

The defense appears to be that Joey gave Chase permission to write checks to himself and forge his signature. Probably at the time his legs were broken and family was being killed.

True. I would definately give Chase permission to use my account after somebody broke my shins.

 

[Longtimenoc]

They do place him in the house the night of the murders creating a check with his name on it (and subsequently creating and printing a nearly identical check the next day [and then cashing it]). Really hard to put anyone else's name on these murders other than the one on that check.

Mooooo

Our poster wants some evidence beyond all doubt. Im guessing only a confession would do.

 

[geevee]

Our poster wants some evidence beyond all doubt. Im guessing only a confession would do.

But then I gather we'd hear "False confession!' proclaimed for various and sundry reasons.

 

[citygirl]

So we heard today that Mr.McGee is expected back next week. Wouldn't it be grand if Court TV opens with this trial on Wednesday, May 8th? That would be a home run,IMO.

 

[citygirl]

IMO , we can no longer count on Law and Crime.
Hoping CTV picks up the slack and delivers.
Let's keep our fingers crossed.

 

[citygirl]

L and C has not even uploaded yesterday's testimony!

 

[katydid23]

No, it's not. If DK were on trial for the murders, I would still not make similar statement about him as some made about CM. Some types of statements hinders an open minded discussion.

Do you consider yourself to be open minded in terms of this trial?

 

[katydid23]

I think we have two policemen and Dr.Rudin left.

They are not calling DK's ex------the one who heard his confession and knows all of the facts about DK murdering the family?

Gee, I wonder why not? They highlighted her in the opening statement. Even brought out the overheard projector to outline all of the 'facts.'

And what about that long interview with Chase on CNN. I thought they fought to be able to play that for the jury?

 

[smr]

Do you consider yourself to be open minded in terms of this trial?

We should let outsiders reading this thread to judge who on this thread are more open minded than whom.

 

[citygirl]

They are not calling DK's ex------the one who heard his confession and knows all of the facts about DK murdering the family?

Gee, I wonder why not? They highlighted her in the opening statement. Even brought out the overheard projector to outline all of the 'facts.'

And what about that long interview with Chase on CNN. I thought they fought to be able to play that for the jury?

Haven't mentioned DK nor his Ex. There has been some banter about that but I don't think it is the CNN interview. I think it's his lengthy interview with LE. Some of which the PT played. They are struggling and reaching, reaching, reaching. Were I a juror I would be waiting on DK.

 

[la2cabo]

When considering the mountain of evidence against Merrit it has to be viewed as a whole. Each individual piece may not point to him as the murderer but when viewed as an entire picture it all makes sense and points directly to no other person but Merritt.