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I am confused. Didn't SS say the call was at 12:36? Also, is it possible SS left without telling her? It seems odd she had to say something like, I already told you this. Thoughts?Last use of the phone was 12:33 AM.
Phone shut off after this?
Last time she was "seen" by anyone 12:30?
In 3 minutes time, how far could she have gotten?
JMO
Teens can be on and off again. Teens can have BF/GF that parents aren't aware of. Also, he could be a ex and wanting to be more involved as a public face for the search.<modsnip: Quoted post was removed>
This just is too bizarre. Sami says there's no current BF, he's on Fox who says he is her current BF and that K spent time with him in Reno just recently... ???
It is an expression, like "break a leg". Nothing more, nothing less. "Don't do anything I wouldn't do,"Why would Kiely's boyfriend text her “OK. Be safe. Don’t like, do anything stupid.” ??
I’m still hung up on the fighting. Organized fights?! Like amateur boxing? Ultimate fighting? So maybe this wasn’t the peace and love “full moon gatherings” we used to have in Southern California, with tons of ecstasy lsd and shrooms.
Rather, this sounds aggressive and testosterone fueled? I don’t think I would ever let my teenage daughter go alone, in the woods at midnight, with dozens of aggressive juiced up fight boys?!
And maybe that’s part of the point, she went as a group with her teenage girlfriends…but they all quickly split off with boys.
I have a teen boy and him and his friends put on gloves and play fight all the time. They also will wrestle or grapple. In the long interview SS did on youtube with American Dream something, she mentioned it was playful nothing crazy and was normal although sometimes could get out of hand after the fight was over.I’m still hung up on the fighting. Organized fights?! Like amateur boxing? Ultimate fighting? So maybe this wasn’t the peace and love “full moon gatherings” we used to have in Southern California, with tons of ecstasy lsd and shrooms.
Rather, this sounds aggressive and testosterone fueled? I don’t think I would ever let my teenage daughter go alone, in the woods at midnight, with dozens of aggressive juiced up fight boys?!
And maybe that’s part of the point, she went as a group with her teenage girlfriends…but they all quickly split off with boys.
Yes, these small town parties have “fights”. This is nothing new at all. These boys fueled with testosterone, fighting for “clout”. Boys who look up to MMA and UFC. This is nothing new and would happen every single weekend at every party I went to 10-15 years ago in a small town close to this area. This is typical in these small town, rural, primarily white, conservative, areas.I’m still hung up on the fighting. Organized fights?! Like amateur boxing? Ultimate fighting? So maybe this wasn’t the peace and love “full moon gatherings” we used to have in Southern California, with tons of ecstasy lsd and shrooms.
Rather, this sounds aggressive and testosterone fueled? I don’t think I would ever let my teenage daughter go alone, in the woods at midnight, with dozens of aggressive juiced up fight boys?!
And maybe that’s part of the point, she went as a group with her teenage girlfriends…but they all quickly split off with boys.
It's so difficult to say. Everyone's tolerance is so different.I may have missed this in earlier pages but mixing weed with any kind of alcohol is a really easy way to get extremely drunk very quickly, and/or black out. I learned the hard way that if I drink alcohol with cannabis in my system I can black out after one drink even if it's hours in between. In an interview another attendee said they were taking tons of bong rips over and over which I cannot even imagine combining with shots and other types of alcohol. I think it's possible she drank that much and was sobering up so she thought she could drive home soon, but then smoked weed and was blacked out in those next 45-60 min?
YES. SS said they spoke in the car when charging their phones and that is when she asked Kiely for a ride home. Then later SS changed her mind and got a ride home with someone else when she “saw Kiely intoxicated”.I do believe with that many young people present, someone or several people have an idea of what happened. Someone saw the car leave. maybe they don't realize what they saw as it was just one of many cars. Someone saw her in the time she spoke with SS to the phone dying. She could not have gone far. Unless she had already left? Eventually someone will talk, post a TikTok or instagram story inadvertently.
I am still confused by the call to SS. And SS saying, I already told you I had an other ride. I just hope her call to SS was not her way of trying to get out of a situation or was a plea for help. Like sounding the alarm by repeating the obvious. I have to give my friend a ride, let me call her, see where she is, I need to go. A polite way to get out of an uncomfortable situation. Like "Hey girl, where are you?" And perhaps SS didn't pickup on the fact she needed help?
I have had a work friend call me on a bad date after I texted them, so I could have an excuse to leave.
I think it would be helpful to gather - maybe it’s a timeline of its own- the multitude of declarations and half sentences, various supposed times SS interacted wirh Kiely out in the woods and SS’s contradictory statements through multiple interactions with media.Please clarify.
A sixteen year old would not have much tolerance, though. I would think any combination of drugs would have made driving dangerous.It's so difficult to say. Everyone's tolerance is so different.
I can mix both without any problems. That's not to say I'm doing shots and shotgunning beer while chain smoking blunts. lol But a few beers and a joint never makes me black out or feel ill. Quite the contrary![]()