Found Deceased CA - Kiely Rodni Missing From Party Near Prosser Family Campground in Truckee #4

[franker]

Snipped for focus.
The answer is NO. See my examples ^^^.

Oh.

Probably I just got lucky.

 

[charminglane]

So here we are. With nothing.

We have hope and faith in abundance!

 

[Truckeeite]

Granted, I am not sure how difficult it would be to search from the air, and am sure that a car could easily be missed, but other than today, when I did not notice any aircraft that seemed to be searching, every day for at least the past week, there have been multiple aircraft showing up on Flightradar24 each day, doing what appear to be obvious and thorough searches by air, often for several hours each day, often two Civil Air Patrol planes, and the PCSO helicopter, as well as a CHP helicopter at times. While her car can certainly have been overlooked if it went off the road somewhere, I believe that arial searches have been as aggressively carried out as water searches have. JMO

Not just air. Hundred of volunteers - many of whom have extensive search and rescue experience - have been searching on the ground also.

Remember Truckee is an outdoors paradise. We regularly lose skiers, hikers, boaters, rafters. The Search and rescue community here is extensive and experienced.

 

[Warwick7]

So here we are. With nothing.

Not nothing.
:0)
Police keep so much to the vest, sometimes we are given very little.

 

[SquirrelNutkin]

Does anyone know if drones were used to explore the sides of the roads. Especially those with a steep drop off. Logic would say there would be tracks or broken branches, but you never know. Did any locals that were searching bring their own drones? I keep thinking about driving up from the other side of the county to try it with our drone, but am not sure if it would help. At least for the logical way she would choose to drive home.

 

[SpicyFruit]

You would think with so many people at the party and teenagers someone would be starting to talk by now. It's not sitting right with me.

With camera's literally at their fingertips and going non-stop with this age group this has to be solved sooner rather than later.

I feel like more and more crimes are happening and they are taking longer to be solved. With all the technology and resources available crimes should be easier to solve.

I was thinking if it does not come out just yet, once all these kids leave to their new college's and are away from parents, & social pressure, add in a little alcohol and parties someone is bound to slip up. I still hope it happens before then.

 

[SpicyFruit]

For those of you who haven't been in a wilderness area at night, it is generally BLACK. It's spooky 'cos you can't see a thing. With the headlights trained ahead (could KR have burned out one?), it would be difficult to see the edge of the road.

Don't forget the people that drive with their high beams on while crossing paths with you. Blinding in that sort of environment. I hate driving up there at night.

 

[wary]

There seems to be an assumption in Thread #3 that if KR and her car, if they are off the road, are in a body of water.

IMO this is less likely than that they simply went over the edge of the road. This almost happened to me in broad daylight on a Forest Service road. I wasn't driving fast, but it was evidently too fast. I had trouble controlling the car.

All you'd have to do in pitch black darkness is to "see a deer", real or imagined, and you'd suddenly brake. You could very easily end up off the road.

For those of you who haven't been in a wilderness area at night, it is generally BLACK. It's spooky 'cos you can't see a thing. With the headlights trained ahead (could KR have burned out one?), it would be difficult to see the edge of the road.

And, if it seems odd that an extensive search wouldn't find a car that has gone off the road, it happens all the time. Often, it's only happenstance that the car is spotted eventually.

See:

Missing woman featured by 'Dateline' found dead off Calif. road

A missing woman and her dog, who disappeared on a trip to the Shasta-Trinity National...

www.sfgate.com

Family of 3 missing for 10 days found dead in vehicle in Williamson County

The bodies of three family members missing since January 16 were found in a car in rural Williamson County on Wednesday evening.

www.newschannel5.com

I agree. A couple of comments:

1: if she was under the influence of something, or sleepy, she might well have run off the edge of the road without even braking and leaving those ominous black skid marks on the road.

2: a car can go into the brush without even breaking the branches noticeably. They can bend and close in behind the car, with very little sign of anything having happened.

 

[SouthAussie]

In the last thread, @ArmChairDet said ........ "Yes, Looks like last ping was the phone call. If she left, there would have been another tower somewhere along the path. However, there may be large areas of no signal on the route as well."


What I am wondering is if any of the locals on this thread have knowledge of this.

In other words, do they know if there is a normal loss of signal when leaving the Sanctuary. And, if so, how long does that loss of signal last before their phone pings on another tower?


(Though it may be hard to know if this would relate to Kiely's phone, as I don't think we know Kiely's phone service provider and which tower(s) provide service for that provider. Hers may be a different service provider than those used by any of the locals on the thread.)

 

[Dre]

I agree. A couple of comments:

1: if she was under the influence of something, or sleepy, she might well have run off the edge of the road without even braking and leaving those ominous black skid marks on the road.

2: a car can go into the brush without even breaking the branches noticeably. They can bend and close in behind the car, with very little sign of anything having happened.

YES! I cannot tell you how many cases end when they find the missing person(s) deceased weeks (months or years after as well) in the car they were last seen with, hidden by various types of debris and foliage that can obscure the vehicle almost completely.

I hate that her last ping was near water…
Moo

 

[LifeLearner]

Does anyone know if drones were used to explore the sides of the roads. Especially those with a steep drop off. Logic would say there would be tracks or broken branches, but you never know. Did any locals that were searching bring their own drones? I keep thinking about driving up from the other side of the county to try it with our drone, but am not sure if it would help. At least for the logical way she would choose to drive home.

From experience with wild fires...if drones are in the air, planes and helicopters cannot be.

 

[Arkay]

Remember Truckee is an outdoors paradise. We regularly lose skiers, hikers, boaters, rafters. The Search and rescue community here is extensive and experienced.

YES! I cannot tell you how many cases end when they find the missing person(s) deceased weeks (months or years after as well) in the car they were last seen with, hidden by various types of debris and foliage that can obscure the vehicle almost completely.

I am wondering about autumn in that area.

IF Kiely's car went off the road but into the woods, not water, I understand it may be hard to spot amid all the summer foliage.

IF she's in or near her car, camouflaged in the woods, she may have survived with an injury. But time is running out for that.

So I'm wondering, when autumn comes and the trees become bare, is it easy to spot a wreck then?

If skiers are frequently lost, I'm guessing it would be difficult to spot a silver car in the snow.

But I really don't know much about that area. Just hoping that if she's out there, she's found, and I don't know how long the bare tree period lasts before the winter snows set in.

Do your lakes ice up heavily out there? If she's in the water, in or not in her car, would the ice make it impossible to continue searching for her? I know her parents' lodge has been advertised as getting feet of snow, which appeals to skiers.

Sorry if these are elementary questions. Just am ignorant about that whole area, although I visited as a child.

 

[charminglane]

I am wondering about autumn in that area.

IF Kiely's car went off the road but into the woods, not water, I understand it may be hard to spot amid all the summer foliage.

IF she's in or near her car, camouflaged in the woods, she may have survived with an injury. But time is running out for that.

So I'm wondering, when autumn comes and the trees become bare, is it easy to spot a wreck then?

If skiers are frequently lost, I'm guessing it would be difficult to spot a silver car in the snow.

But I really don't know much about that area. Just hoping that if she's out there, she's found, and I don't know how long the bare tree period lasts before the winter snows set in.

Do your lakes ice up heavily out there? If she's in the water, in or not in her car, would the ice make it impossible to continue searching for her? I know her parents' lodge has been advertised as getting feet of snow, which appeals to skiers.

Sorry if these are elementary questions. Just am ignorant about that whole area, although I visited as a child.

The trees are mostly evergreen - think pine, fir, deodar, cedar, redwood, that kind. Thick and dense.

 

[Puzzles8]

I am wondering about autumn in that area.

IF Kiely's car went off the road but into the woods, not water, I understand it may be hard to spot amid all the summer foliage.

IF she's in or near her car, camouflaged in the woods, she may have survived with an injury. But time is running out for that.

So I'm wondering, when autumn comes and the trees become bare, is it easy to spot a wreck then?

If skiers are frequently lost, I'm guessing it would be difficult to spot a silver car in the snow.

But I really don't know much about that area. Just hoping that if she's out there, she's found, and I don't know how long the bare tree period lasts before the winter snows set in.

Do your lakes ice up heavily out there? If she's in the water, in or not in her car, would the ice make it impossible to continue searching for her? I know her parents' lodge has been advertised as getting feet of snow, which appeals to skiers.

Sorry if these are elementary questions. Just am ignorant about that whole area, although I visited as a child.

It was also pointed out by LE that Hunting season begins soon. That will be more eyes out there in the woods

JMO

 

[spiritseeker31]

If KR went off the road and was driving alone out in the boondocks somewhere, there's really nothing someone at the party could talk about. IMO too much weight is being placed on lack of witnesses. What were they supposed to witness?

Because there's such a call for witnesses, a call for info on her necklaces, the focus on what she was wearing, and the amount of press conferences makes me 98% believe it's foul play. They know more than they're sharing.

 

[Ixchel13]

In the last thread, @ArmChairDet said ........ "Yes, Looks like last ping was the phone call. If she left, there would have been another tower somewhere along the path. However, there may be large areas of no signal on the route as well."


What I am wondering is if any of the locals on this thread have knowledge of this.

In other words, do they know if there is a normal loss of signal when leaving the Sanctuary. And, if so, how long does that loss of signal last before their phone pings on another tower?


(Though it may be hard to know if this would relate to Kiely's phone, as I don't think we know Kiely's phone service provider and which tower(s) provide service for that provider. Hers may be a different service provider than those used by any of the locals on the thread.)

everything true^^^

 

[bakersfield3]

Not just air. Hundred of volunteers - many of whom have extensive search and rescue experience - have been searching on the ground also.

Remember Truckee is an outdoors paradise. We regularly lose skiers, hikers, boaters, rafters. The Search and rescue community here is extensive and experienced.

But does search and rescue use sonar equipment or we just talking divers...

 

[TruckeeLocal]

Replying to a post in thread #3 about the two lakes off of Cold Stream Rd...

I went out to these lakes today. The first lake is almost totally dry, there's no car in it. The 2nd lake is larger, and there's a bit off a drop off from the road to the lake. Plus, it's surrounded by trees and brush. There's a couple small footpaths that lead to the lake, but it would be almost impossible to drive a car into it with plowing through trees, which would be very obvious. I didn't see any sign of this occuring.

I ran into two members of the Sheriff's department out there. They were searching the area on ATVs. There's several smaller dirt roads that fork off of the main road. If they found something, I think we would have heard about it already.

 

[RedHaus]

Replying to a post in thread #3 about the two lakes off of Cold Stream Rd...

I went out to these lakes today. The first lake is almost totally dry, there's no car in it. The 2nd lake is larger, and there's a bit off a drop off from the road to the lake. Plus, it's surrounded by trees and brush. There's a couple small footpaths that lead to the lake, but it would be almost impossible to drive a car into it with plowing through trees, which would be very obvious. I didn't see any sign of this occuring.

I ran into two members of the Sheriff's department out there. They were searching the area on ATVs. There's several smaller dirt roads that fork off of the main road. If they found something, I think we would have heard about it already.

Excellent contribution, @TruckeeLocal! Nothing like having a WS'er on the ground helping with the search. When I put my little map together as others did earlier tonight, I did notice these smaller lakes. That 2nd one with the bit of a drop off is indeed intriguing because of the geography as you describe. How many stories do we hear of car crashes very near home?

Glad to hear about Sheriff ATVs on the smaller dirt roads - that was a question I and others had opined about earlier today.

Again, thank you!

 

[bakersfield3]

Replying to a post in thread #3 about the two lakes off of Cold Stream Rd...

I went out to these lakes today. The first lake is almost totally dry, there's no car in it. The 2nd lake is larger, and there's a bit off a drop off from the road to the lake. Plus, it's surrounded by trees and brush. There's a couple small footpaths that lead to the lake, but it would be almost impossible to drive a car into it with plowing through trees, which would be very obvious. I didn't see any sign of this occuring.

I ran into two members of the Sheriff's department out there. They were searching the area on ATVs. There's several smaller dirt roads that fork off of the main road. If they found something, I think we would have heard about it already.

2nd sounds a bit intriguing, What are the floor surfaces of theses lakes? Mud, etc...