I am so frustrated about this as he said two different things, and I would really like to know as it makes a HUGE difference when speculating as to what happened. I watched AWP video several times to try and clarify. He does say it is broken during this screenshot, but when he comes up to the surface he states one window is all the way down, and back window halfway down. He repeats this again, and never says it was broken again. It doesn't look broken to me as I do not see any shards of glass in the frame like on front Drivers window that we know was broke by LE. I have watched it several times and paused it And, when the car is towed out, you can see through the front windows, the drivers side broken, but passenger looks all the way down. Anyone with clarification????
True. I had thought of Kate, but then was thinking Mags is just more thoughtful, and may have come across as out of it or spacy? But she would be hard to confuse with Kiely :/
I don't remember exactly where it was confirmed, but if you watch AWP video you can clearly see the Driver's window in tact when he looks into the car. It is the first window the diver approaches.
That's what I was trying to figure out. So confusing!
I haven't been following every minute detail of the recovery but even if this is the case it can easily be explained if in going into the water the car spent some amount of time in an upright position on its nose before flipping the rest of the way over and coming to rest on its roof. If there was in fact an air pocket in the cargo area for some time it would have facilitated the vehicle standing upright like that until the air gradually escaped. Horrifyingly, this would also support the theory that she was alive and trapped in the car for some time.
JMO, but I do not feel like any of Kiely's friends really look like her enough to be mistaken for her.
We know where Kiely was when AWP found her--in the cargo are of her SUV. So prior to law enforcement flipping her car over.
AWP confirmed she was in the back in their video released on Friday (video has already been posted several times so I won’t post it again)
I found the video to corroborate what I said. I believe around 36:20. The buoy yanks around. I can't tell if the chains move because the playback on my laptop is grainy, buy it was clear when I was watching it in real time.
Sorry, I should have been more specific, @Kiranerys. For older model manual transmission cars in the U.S. you are correct. But for newer model manual transmission cars sold in the U.S, the depression of the clutch is required to start ("safety").
Yes!!!!! I noticed that as well!!! Huge mistake imo. I would think everything should have been left as is for the investigators…but the drivers side window was broken during the recovery process. It was the passenger front window that was discovered broken when AWP visually inspected the vehicle.
Yes, then when he is out of the water, he says one window is all the way down, and the rear drivers side is halfway down. He repeats that. So now I don't know which it is. I was so excited to watch the AWP as I thought we would finally know for sure, and when he said it was broken I was so relieved. However, he then said all the way down, and another poster said he may have made a mistake. Which is the mistake though, broken or all the way down?
When cars "turtle" (go onto their backs) they do so nose first. That puts the rear of the car up in the air, and the last to go down, so it's not surprising to me that she'd end up there since it's apparent her seatbelt was off. Eventually autos continue their roll onto their backs due to the air in the tires. The air-filled tires are trying to float and the weight of the car ends up pulling it down onto it's back tires up. MOO
