Found Deceased CA - Kiely Rodni Missing From Party Near Prosser Family Campground in Truckee since 8 Aug 2022 #5

[Curiosa20]

I am greatly saddened by the tragic death of the vibrant young Kiely, who had so much to live for, enjoy, and give to others.
I offer my sincere condolences to her grieving family and friends whose depth of suffering is unfathomable.
May her life continue to be a blessing.
Peace and justice for Kiely.

 

[seasideForest]

so curious as to why the didn’t pick up on the car? is it possible it was dumped there after the search?

Anything is possible.
It has been stated in this thread that AWP quite simply have far more experience than most LEs in this type of search.
Again, anything is possible, but till I hear otherwise after the interior of the car has been forensically examined and all that, I'm going with tragic accident and that the car has been in the water since Kiely was driving home from the party and took a wrong turn.
Poor Kiely.

 

[Kiranerys]

You have mentioned suicide as a possibility a couple of times now, but respectfully, if that is what is being suggested here, there has been absolutely no indication that Kiely was suicidal. None. Unrolling all four windows also seems in line with trying to escape a sinking vehicle.

Thankyou!

 

[Cartie]

Can I just say you tubers like AWP who make revenue through their online presence are paid not just from following and donations. They also are paid from watchers liking videos and comments.
So please like and comment on their videos.
Many thanks

 

[BeckyF]

They probably decided to focus on the highest-priority probability first: abduction. If she was taken there's a lot more investigation to be done and a much tighter timeframe. (How many cases do we see that go, "Police did not investigate for X amount of time, causing evidence to be lost?")

Local police also don't have a sonar unit like AWP. I think the State Police had divers down for a day or so, early in the search, but without sonar they would basically just be feeling around in the silty water. Those divers are also police officers with other caseloads of their own.

But they also told AWP that the body of water where she was ultimately found had already been searched thoroughly. AWP decided to search it again.

Divers find body and overturned car in search of missing California teen Kiely Rodni

Divers searching for missing California teen Kiely Rodni said they have discovered a body and car in the reservoir near where she was last seen more than two weeks ago.

nypost.com

“Police told us they did a rigorous search of this body of water,” diver Josh Cantu, 31, said. “They gave us a grid map and made us confident we didn’t need to search here.”

 

[BeachSky]

They probably decided to focus on the highest-priority probability first: abduction. If she was taken there's a lot more investigation to be done and a much tighter timeframe. (How many cases do we see that go, "Police did not investigate for X amount of time, causing evidence to be lost?")

Local police also don't have a sonar unit like AWP. I think the State Police had divers down for a day or so, early in the search, but without sonar they would basically just be feeling around in the silty water. Those divers are also police officers with other caseloads of their own.

I think of this group much like the amazing Equusearch. They have solved many cold cases.
My heart goes out to her family & friends. I did fear it was abduction after so much time. TG there is closure & she will be brought home. But so, so sad.

Volunteer dive team to help search for Kiely Rodni

PLACER COUNTY, Calif. (KTXL) — A group of volunteer divers who travel across the country in hopes of solving missing persons’ cold cases will join the search for Kiely Rodni. “The call came t…

fox40.com

The group is called Adventures with Purpose. They’ve helped solve 23 cold cases since 2019. They’ve amassed more than 2.4 million subscribers on Youtube and more than 250 million views all by helping families find their loved ones.

 

[Warwick7]

I'm sure the ice cold water was also a fctor, wheras in this case the water was warm.

If the water is warm there, then the weather was warm, it could explain why the windows were rolled down in the back (well, the left rear window, can't see the other one yet).

From the msm pictures the driver's window and possibly the passenger windows do look broken out. My guess is that'ss damaged done during the recovery process, more so since they had to flip it back over.

Under the driver window there's a dent or where it buckled.

If she was driving with the windows in the back down that car would have filled up fast.

 

[ChiCubs2016]

I'm not skeptical of what you saw, I believe you. What I don't understand is why you feel she couldn't be in the back cargo area? The engine is heavy, the front of the car will go down first. If she was trying to keep her head above water and escape, she could have climbed into the rear of the car.

Here's what AWP has to say about that subject ... take a look.

Thank you @Knox for posting this video! It really shows what surely happened to poor Kiely. RIP Kiely. Prayers to all her family and friends!

 

[Warwick7]

But

You have mentioned suicide as a possibility a couple of times now, but respectfully, if that is what is being suggested here, there has been absolutely no indication that Kiely was suicidal. None. Unrolling all four windows also seems in line with trying to escape a sinking vehicle.

However all four weren't rolled down.

Front ones appear broken out. Probably damaged during the recovery, especially if they had to change its orientation, as MassGuy said earlier.

I don't feel either this was suicide. I don't feel there is foul play either.

 

[Fascinated1]

If someone else had enough control to put her car in the water, with her inside, I doubt that it mattered where in the vehicle she was, because she would have probably been completely incapacitated by then. JMO

But no doors were open (I doubt someone else
Would exit and close the door)-No reports of anyone seeing someone soaking wet walking around as all the cars were leaving at 1230 and no reports of footprints coming from shoreline. Horrible accident. RIP Kiely.

 

[mewmew]

I’m absolutely boggled to read that so many people still think this was foul play or suicide. It seems very straightforward to me - she was likely impaired, got disoriented, and ended up in the water. I see people saying if she was impaired she wouldn’t have had the capacity to know to roll down the windows and undo her seatbelt. Ok. Well, IME/IMO, being impaired doesn’t mean you forget basic survival skills, especially when you’re suddenly jolted into reality by something like, say, driving into a lake.

I’m so happy Kiely is found but I’m definitely taking a break from this thread until any new concrete evidence is found and shared. Which I’m sure even then will be doubted and debated. I feel like I’m on a conspiracy theorist forum. This is exactly what happened with Toni Andersons case, too.

Occams Razor and all that jazz.

(All JMO - which I know others are entitled to as well. It’s what makes the world go round! And also why I’m leaving for a bit. Lol.)

 

[MsBetsy]

Anything is possible.
It has been stated in this thread that AWP quite simply have far more experience than most LEs in this type of search.
Again, anything is possible, but till I hear otherwise after the interior of the car has been forensically examined and all that, I'm going with tragic accident and that the car has been in the water since Kiely was driving home from the party and took a wrong turn.
Poor Kiely.

Yes, if there had been foul play I think there would have been evidence early on. SS worked hard to get her peers to come forward with information. The biggest obstacle was that nobody saw Kiely leave.

I doubt it was just Kiely who planned on getting wasted at the party. According to witnesses, there were many illegal substances available. Teenagers are terrible witnesses when they are inebriated. It's unusual nobody saw her leave, but not surprising if everyone there was under the influence.

If it's true that there were several cars all leaving around 12:30 am, it's possible that Kiely was among them and nobody noticed her making the wrong turn towards the lake.

 

[Cartie]

Her rear windows being open could be earlier having someone smoking in the back and she wanted to air it out to get rid of the smell whilst driving home.

 

[JRW]

That's correct it does look shattered, then why aren't the other windows shattered like the back ones for example, odd. The sideview mirror is dangling. I suppose the assumption will be that its because the impact caused it. If that were so then the other windows on the same side should be likewise.

Are there deer in the area? I'm wondering if she could have hit something that made her sserve into the water? I just don't know if driving straight in would have broken the mirror as well? There also seems to be a dent. I feel recovery would have been very careful because they want to preserve the vehicle as much as possible so they don't hinder the investigation

 

[MsBetsy]

Her rear windows being open could be earlier having someone smoking in the back and she wanted to air it out to get rid of the smell whilst driving home.

Or she just forgot they were open. Or she opened all windows herself in order to get fresh air. Some people like driving with their windows down. If they had been smoking weed the car probably would have smelled like it.

Sami only mentioned going to the car for drinks but it's understandable that the kids wouldn't have publicly mentioned illicit drugs. Hopefully they told police everything they know. Alcohol alone would explain the accident, though, especially if they were doing shots.

 

[Curiosa20]

A friend recently lost an expensive 4WD truck just north of Tahoe while attempting to load a boat from a ramp he has used countless times over decades.
Due to the lowered water line from drought and much higher temperatures, slippery algae had proliferated just below the surface of the water at waters edge. He slid into the lake. Unimpaired and in broad daylight. Only through luck the motor didn’t die and with very skillful maneuvering very slowly was he able to get enough traction to get back on dry ground and avoid losing control of the vehicle and avoided submerging completely.

 

[JRW]

It's possible that Kiely was driving with the windows down and after going into the water the car went engine end down (being the heaviest area of the car). If she wasn't buckled in she could have floated to the back of the car when it sank. Lord, this is horrible.

Also it should be mentioned that hondas are built so that the power windows will still work after the car is submerged completely in water

 

[JRW]

I have another take on the rolling of the windows, however. Underwater in a panic if the poor girl was in this state she would roll down one window, plus wouldn't the automatic mechanisms for opening the windows not work, wouldn't they be damaged? One window rolled down by her is enough because she would be closest to that window if she rolled it down herself right then while trying to escape.

Hondas roll down even when submerged..also the driver window button doesn't have to be held for window to go all the way down..if you hit your driver window button it will open the window entirely

 

[flippyflappy]

People always have such lofty ideas of what would be possible for a human to survive in accidents like this. Like why not just roll down the windows, swim out etc. But I have to imagine this all happened very fast, likely had some windows open or cracked to "sober up" if she was tired or inebriated, and was cruising along fast to get home in time.

Yesterday I slipped in water just passed my knees in the waves. While under for just moments, it is extremely disorienting not being able to tell up from down, or get your footing. And I've lived on the ocean my entire life. I can only imagine if you're underwater, getting jostled around and inside a car needing to escape all while panicking that you are about to die.

Feel sad for her and her family. Such a crap way to exit this earth. Teenagers make mistakes. I also think she didn't have super great friends who didn't insist on taking her home when they knew she couldn't drive, but that might be my anger talking.

 

[LauraAnne]

People always have such lofty ideas of what would be possible for a human to survive in accidents like this. Like why not just roll down the windows, swim out etc. But I have to imagine this all happened very fast, likely had some windows open or cracked to "sober up" if she was tired or inebriated, and was cruising along fast to get home in time.

Yesterday I slipped in water just passed my knees in the waves. While under for just moments, it is extremely disorienting not being able to tell up from down, or get your footing. And I've lived on the ocean my entire life. I can only imagine if you're underwater, getting jostled around and inside a car needing to escape all while panicking that you are about to die.

Feel sad for her and her family. Such a crap way to exit this earth. Teenagers make mistakes. I also think she didn't have super great friends who didn't insist on taking her home when they knew she couldn't drive, but that might be my anger talking.

I think she had good friends - they just weren't there at the party. The people there were acquaintances. SS said early on that she hung out with her nearly the entire time they were at the party, and she didn't know before hand that Kiely was coming, and wasn't in regular contact with her. So Kiely was kind of on her own that evening. A silver lining here, with all tragedies, is there are families having this conversation after her sad demise - if you're drunk, call us, we'll come get you. And I don't think that traditional party will look quite the same in the future, nor will that boat ramp.