PoirotryInMotion
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I do not believe that California has an actual law that I can find, but generally speaking, 12 and up can babysit, depending upon the circumstances. I think, in this case, it appears as though it would be quite acceptable for a 12 year old to be home alone during the day with an 8 year old.
BBM - You never know:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/07/nyregion/07slay.html?ref=petitfamily&_r=0
"They were both serial burglars with drug habits, having racked up numerous convictions for stealing car keys and pocketbooks.
This time, they took something far more precious.
The men, the authorities say, had already strangled Dr. Petits wife, Jennifer Hawke-Petit, 48, and in short order would also kill the couples two daughters, Hayley, 17, and Michaela, 11. The elder suspect, Steven J. Hayes, 44, had poured gasoline on the girls and their mother, according to a lawyer and a law enforcement official involved in the case, in hopes of concealing DNA evidence of sexual assault. He had raped Ms. Hawke-Petit, and his partner, Joshua Komisarjevsky, 26, had sexually assaulted Michaela."
I remember people thinking the dad did it-that there was no way he could have escaped when the others lived.
I think I was 14 when I started babysitting, however I remember being left alone at the age of 9 (after my mom died). That's why I ask, bc I took a CPR course and was taught basic childcare skills. That's when I found out about the legalities of leaving a child in another minor's care...but that was many years ago (I'll be 47 this July) so the law could have changed, plus I live in NJ (which could quite possibly have different rules than CA). Thank you Duchess for your response.
Is there a minimum age in CA for a minor person to legally be able to babysit?
I was wondering about the neighbor saying that BF had blood on him (linked and quoted by others previously).
Unless I missed something, we've seen no reports as to whether or not the brother had blood on him. If he tried to help his sister, I presume he would have gotten bloody. Is it possible that his father then hugged him after arriving home, and that's where the blood on Dad came from?
:cow:
Seems an intruder intent on burglary would likely hit the TV or electronics
I leave my 12 year old home to watch his 10 year old brother and his 8 year old sister from time to time for short periods of time. Sure hope I'm not breaking the law! It's actually a nice passage to finally be able to leave the house to go out somewhere without all of them tagging along all the time. Makes grocery shopping so much simpler!![]()
I am not sure if it is legal or not but I was under the impression that 12 yr olds could watch siblings at home, according to CPS standards. I used to work at an elementary school and middle schoolers used to wait after school to meet their younger sibs and walk them home, and babysit until parents came home, and CPS had no problem with that situation. [ as long as the older kids were reliable/responsible.]
Things are starting to get convoluted for me in this case? I guess it's the timeline of the parents, the game, the sequence of calls etc. Has any one done a timeline yet?
Intruders taking on this much risk might have sought something of a higher value/weight ratio than a television. The FBI interest in the television and furniture may be aimed at investigating motive as much as aimed at collecting evidence. A botched kidnapping perhaps. Hopefully, the perpetrator(s) are in custody. Admittedly, highly speculative.
Intruders taking on this much risk might have sought something of a higher value/weight ratio than a television. The FBI interest in the television and furniture may be aimed at investigating motive as much as aimed at collecting evidence. A botched kidnapping perhaps. Hopefully, the perpetrator(s) are in custody. Admittedly, highly speculative.
JMO, but I don't think the your typical robber/burglar would target this rental house unless he knew for sure there was something valuable in there--(and it doesn't appear he did, as nothing was reported stolen. Unless it was something the parents didn't want to report stolen, of course.) And if he knew that kind of inside info, seems he'd also know the # of people living there, and case the place more carefully before attempting to burgle in broad daylight on a Saturday afternoon when people are out mowing yards, riding bikes, etc. A burglar would be much more apt to burgle during the weekdays if during daytime hours, when most occupants would be likely to be at work or at school. Also, with no getaway car in sight, it seems unlikely, in this particular case, that a robber would want to run through the woods carrying electronics. Just not a credible scenario, all in all, to me, that this was initially a burglary gone bad. (And LE seems to agree, which adds to my leanings, here.)
Botched kidnapping,...personally, I don't think so. He'd just have to hold the knife or other weapon to this little girl and escort her out. Like in the Northridge, CA case, or that one in Utah. Instead, he stabbed her 21 times. Most botched or interrupted kidnappers would just bolt, rather than stick around for that kind of overkill.
But yeah, I do think it was a crime of passion. :cow:
I believe LE has ruled out burglary or robbery as intent/motive, though. There is no evidence of break-in or anything having been taken. <snip>
I was wondering about the neighbor saying that BF had blood on him (linked and quoted by others previously).
Unless I missed something, we've seen no reports as to whether or not the brother had blood on him. If he tried to help his sister, I presume he would have gotten bloody. Is it possible that his father then hugged him after arriving home, and that's where the blood on Dad came from?
:cow:
Lawson said a man who she believed to be Barney Fowler, Leila’s father, came to the edge of her driveway.
“He was white as a ghost,” she said. “He had blood on his shirt, her body imprint was on his shirt, like you could tell he was cradling that little girl.”
“He said, ‘Have you seen anything?’ I said, ‘No.’ I said, ‘Is she OK? Is she OK?’” Lawson recalled. “He said, ‘No. She’s not OK.’”
Perhaps something was sought/taken that would never be missed by the current occupants. This was suggested by the message you quoted. If the house was a rental, it might be relevant to know if it was furnished. Doubtful that a television was furnished but it would be helpful to know. Did someone, a handyman maybe, trusted by the occupants, do a little extra? A safety deposit box between the studs perhaps.
I just wasn't allowed to turn the stove on, until I was at least 11.![]()
Perhaps something was sought/taken that would never be missed by the current occupants. This was suggested by the message you quoted. If the house was a rental, it might be relevant to know if it was furnished. Doubtful that a television was furnished but it would be helpful to know. Did someone, a handyman maybe, trusted by the occupants, do a little extra? A safety deposit box between the studs perhaps.