GUILTY CA - Michelle Hoang Thi Le, 26, Hayward, 27 May 2011

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I love to ride my motorcycle in that area. I have often thought i could be lost forever with a wrong turn on the bike
 
I believe this is Michelle as the location corresponds to cell phone pings. I too am disappointed that this area was supposedly searched and cleared previously, but relieved that it was re-searched. If it doesn't turn out to be Michelle, still good for some family that the body has been recovered. I feel strongly that this is Michelle though.

RIP Michelle...
 
LinasK said:
By Matthias Gafni
Contra Costa Times
Posted: 09/17/2011 05:33:42 PM PDT
Updated: 09/17/2011 06:59:41 PM PDT
SUNOL -- A search party looking for missing San Mateo resident Michelle Le found decomposed remains near the Sunol-Pleasanton border Saturday morning, police said, but investigators cannot say whether it is the nursing student who vanished in May.
The remains were found near Pleasanton Sunol and Verona roads and in the general area that Hayward police said the 26-year-old's cell phone pinged shortly after her disappearance. The Le family, along with community volunteers, found the remains around 10:30 a.m. off a seldomly used path in some brush and near railroad tracks, Alameda County Sheriff's spokesman J.D. Nelson said. more at link: http://www.contracostatimes.com/news/ci_18919575?nclick_check=1
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I hope the Le family didn't actually see her. That will stay with them the rest of their lives if they did. Loosing her is bad enough.
 
I am betting this is her. They're going off the cell ping route, right? Who else could it be?

This is a most bizarre case. A young woman killed by another young woman. How? Why? I've heard there were jealousy issues but it is very odd.

And Michelle was in class, right? And said she was driving up to Reno after class but then left on a break and was never seen again? Was she forced at gun point or something? And how was she transported? How did the suspect get back to her own vehicle?

I can't see how else a petite woman could have killed Michelle except with some kind of serious weapon.

As my dad always said, never, ever go with someone who has a gun or knife. They intend to kill you. Better to get killed where you are and where there may be a chance of rescue or medical assistance, than transported to some lonely road or psycho's basement.

Admittedly, I have to catch up on this case. I just heard there was an arrest and now bam. There's a body. Whoa.
 
Okay, I caught up. Looks like Michelle might have been waylaid by GE in the parking garage, possibly stabbed or shot?

If Michelle was outside her car though, which is why there was reportedly a large pool of blood, I think it would be hard for GE to get her into her car. But maybe she was trying to get out of her car or fell partially out? I don't know.

I can see GE being able to dump the body, even though she was pregnant and petite. She could have pushed her body out and then dragged it into the brush. It would be heavy but really not too hard, I think. Michelle was not a big woman.

I can't remember when Michelle went missing, though. Was it at night? Because otherwise, how does GE drive around with her body without being seen? A blanket maybe? If so, it was certainly planned. I don't see GE being able to put Michelle in a trunk, however. That would be too hard.

Very bizarre case and very bizarre defendant. Reminds me of a few women I have fought against in my family law cases. I'm in trial against one right now. Just psycho as can be.
 
Up on 680 there used to be a cell tower disguised as a tree.
I Drove up to Verona tonight. That area almost looks like private property.
On the searches we were not allowed to go on private property, so that is how
the body could have been easily missed. Its not a through road it ends at a bridge with
steel poles. Tonight the poles were down. I dont know if they are always down.
The night she disappeared it was still light up until 8 or later. Its a weird and spooky
place that is behind a house.
 
Like JeannieC said: mixed emotions.

If the remains are indeed their beloved Michelle, I'm glad...glad that her family won't have to wonder anymore. But I'm enormously sad...sad that they now have to face that they will never be able to see her alive again. And I'm angry...angry that her life was cut short, and in a horrible manner--murdered.

I have been drawn to this story I read in the news from the very beginning because something about Michelle just touched my heart. I think it is because she feels like someone I would know, or someone I would like to know...someone just going about life on the right path, someone likeable and good-hearted. An everyday yet wonderful person, who you'd never think would anger anyone enough to want to harm her.

Krystine and Michael have been strong, loyal, and steadfast in their determination to find Michelle. They have won the admiration and respect of so many strangers, like me. I have been so touched and strongly impressed by this family. Seeing how they conduct themselves as they work through this tragedy leads me to believe that Michelle is/was just as exemplary as they.

If the body does turn out to be Michelle, I hope her family will gain some measure of comfort knowing that many people have cared deeply for all of them, and grieve along with them for the loss of dear Michelle.
 
slowpoke said:
Like JeannieC said: mixed emotions.

If the remains are indeed their beloved Michelle, I'm glad...glad that her family won't have to wonder anymore. But I'm enormously sad...sad that they now have to face that they will never be able to see her alive again. And I'm angry...angry that her life was cut short, and in a horrible manner--murdered.

I have been drawn to this story I read in the news from the very beginning because something about Michelle just touched my heart. I think it is because she feels like someone I would know, or someone I would like to know...someone just going about life on the right path, someone likeable and good-hearted. An everyday yet wonderful person, who you'd never think would anger anyone enough to want to harm her.

Krystine and Michael have been strong, loyal, and steadfast in their determination to find Michelle. They have won the admiration and respect of so many strangers, like me. I have been so touched and strongly impressed by this family. Seeing how they conduct themselves as they work through this tragedy leads me to believe that Michelle is/was just as exemplary as they.

If the body does turn out to be Michelle, I hope her family will gain some measure of comfort knowing that many people have cared deeply for all of them, and grieve along with them for the loss of dear Michelle.
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I hope they do know how many people from all over are thinking about them, and Michelle tonight, and have been since she was taken. It is beyond horrifying to acknowledge the death of a loved one, I can't begin to imagine knowing she has been in a field or woods for months, probably killed as the result of some irrational jealousy, on an otherwise normal workday. I wish LE could obtain a confession based on finding Michelle (assuming this is Michelle) to spare the family the additional pain and trauma of a trial.
 
slowpoke said:
Like JeannieC said: mixed emotions.

If the remains are indeed their beloved Michelle, I'm glad...glad that her family won't have to wonder anymore. But I'm enormously sad...sad that they now have to face that they will never be able to see her alive again. And I'm angry...angry that her life was cut short, and in a horrible manner--murdered.

I have been drawn to this story I read in the news from the very beginning because something about Michelle just touched my heart. I think it is because she feels like someone I would know, or someone I would like to know...someone just going about life on the right path, someone likeable and good-hearted. An everyday yet wonderful person, who you'd never think would anger anyone enough to want to harm her.

Krystine and Michael have been strong, loyal, and steadfast in their determination to find Michelle. They have won the admiration and respect of so many strangers, like me. I have been so touched and strongly impressed by this family. Seeing how they conduct themselves as they work through this tragedy leads me to believe that Michelle is/was just as exemplary as they.

If the body does turn out to be Michelle, I hope her family will gain some measure of comfort knowing that many people have cared deeply for all of them, and grieve along with them for the loss of dear Michelle.
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Very eloquently put and I believe you speak for most if not all of us.
 
Mox said:
Up on 680 there used to be a cell tower disguised as a tree.
I Drove up to Verona tonight. That area almost looks like private property.
On the searches we were not allowed to go on private property, so that is how
the body could have been easily missed. Its not a through road it ends at a bridge with
steel poles. Tonight the poles were down. I dont know if they are always down.
The night she disappeared it was still light up until 8 or later. Its a weird and spooky
place that is behind a house.
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Whoa I just got home to this news. My sister-in-law had texted me that they found a body that might be Michelle's.
Oh Lord I hope and pray that the family did not find her (if this is Michelle) My hearts go out to the searchers and especially who found the body. How devastating.
I think it is Michelle though. I hope it is for the families sake so they can give her a proper burial. They must be heartbroken tonight.
I had a feeling she would be found this weekend. I think that's why my gut was saying for me not to be on this search. I would not have wanted to have been the one to find her. I don't think I could handle that.
I think I know exactly where this place is and if I remember correctly it's owned by EBMud of the regional park district. About 10 years ago I went to a big bbq with friends from church, one of our friends lived in that house with his family and there is a beautiful old temple structure in the back at the end of the road. My friend worked for Hetch Hetchy I think part of his work compensation was living in that house. Weird.
Weird too that that area was already searched and nothing found. It's rural but anyone walking along those roads a few feet in would have spotted a body.




UPDATE:

Mercury News reports that a Hayward Police officer, who joined in Saturday's search for Michelle, located human remains around the area where Michelle's cell phone last pinged. They were not able to determine if the remains were female, and have not removed the remains from the scene.

http://www.examiner.com/missing-per...s-michael-frame-not-reliable-search-continues
 
Esteban, who is pregnant, was arrested at her condominium on Monterra Terrace in Union City, which is about 12 miles from the site where the body was found Saturday. She is being held without bail at Santa Rita Jail in Dublin.

Police have not cited a specific motive for the killing but did note the interview that Esteban gave to KGO shortly after Le was last seen in which she blamed Le for destroying her relationship with Scott M. of Fremont, her ex-boyfriend and the father of their 5-year-old daughter.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/09/17/BA551L61TM.DTL#ixzz1YHuh7QmN

So this chick has a 5 year old and is pregnant (who is the Dad of that baby?? The same guy, or someone else... wondering where that baby is going to end up.)

Despite having children to take care of... she is still immature enough to be angry at someone that she feels ruined her relationship.
To be consumed by that and focused on that, instead of working on fixing that relationship, or just making the best of it for your daughter.

If someone ruined your relationship, then it obviously was not strong enough in the first place.
Instead of just moving on... she shatters Michelle's family... she shatters her own family... and there is also that 5 year old girl and new baby.

I am not immature, petty and jealous enough to understand this mindset I guess. :waitasec:
 
I wonder if Giselle Esteban works in the real estate field or have been there with friends before. This is not a place you could just wander onto by mistake. It would look like private property unless you've been there before.

You can see some photos of the property below, it was up for sale earlier this year:

http://www.bhr.com/properties/73_44178/3-VERONA-RD-PLEASANTON-Alameda-CA-94566

Some aerial shots from Bing maps shows a lot of car tracks. Looks like the place might be a spot where teens hang out and drink. You can see the tire tracks going around the tree and in circles in other spots.

http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=q848xj4v8sf7&lvl=19.445971257915886&dir=358.97235993492876&sty=b&where1=3%20Verona%20Rd%2C%20Pleasanton%2C%20CA%2094566&form=LMLTCC

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MsFacetious said:
Esteban, who is pregnant, was arrested at her condominium on Monterra Terrace in Union City, which is about 12 miles from the site where the body was found Saturday. She is being held without bail at Santa Rita Jail in Dublin.

Police have not cited a specific motive for the killing but did note the interview that Esteban gave to KGO shortly after Le was last seen in which she blamed Le for destroying her relationship with Scott M. of Fremont, her ex-boyfriend and the father of their 5-year-old daughter.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/09/17/BA551L61TM.DTL#ixzz1YHuh7QmN

So this chick has a 5 year old and is pregnant (who is the Dad of that baby?? The same guy, or someone else... wondering where that baby is going to end up.)

Despite having children to take care of... she is still immature enough to be angry at someone that she feels ruined her relationship.
To be consumed by that and focused on that, instead of working on fixing that relationship, or just making the best of it for your daughter.
If someone ruined your relationship, then it obviously was not strong enough in the first place.
Instead of just moving on... she shatters Michelle's family... she shatters her own family... and there is also that 5 year old girl and new baby.I am not immature, petty and jealous enough to understand this mindset I guess. :waitasec:
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bolded by me.

That's what a sane person would do in a similar situation. GE is not sane; she had a history of violence with one boyfriend, and Scott Marasigan, the father of her 5 yr old daughter, had to file a restraining order against her.

She seems to be a lone wolf. Has anyone heard about her mother, father, or other family? It's as if she's just out there, acting all alone on everything. Perhaps her child and unborn baby are her only connection to reality. Just guessing--I'm not a psychiatrist.

ETA: Not that having a family would make her sane!
 
gitana1 said:
Okay, I caught up. Looks like Michelle might have been waylaid by GE in the parking garage, possibly stabbed or shot?

If Michelle was outside her car though, which is why there was reportedly a large pool of blood, I think it would be hard for GE to get her into her car. But maybe she was trying to get out of her car or fell partially out? I don't know.

I can see GE being able to dump the body, even though she was pregnant and petite. She could have pushed her body out and then dragged it into the brush. It would be heavy but really not too hard, I think. Michelle was not a big woman.

I can't remember when Michelle went missing, though. Was it at night? Because otherwise, how does GE drive around with her body without being seen? A blanket maybe? If so, it was certainly planned. I don't see GE being able to put Michelle in a trunk, however. That would be too hard.

Very bizarre case and very bizarre defendant. Reminds me of a few women I have fought against in my family law cases. I'm in trial against one right now. Just psycho as can be.
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This, from an article today, might answer some of those questions.

"Le was last seen around 7 p.m. May 27, when she went to her car during a break in a clinical nursing lesson at the Kaiser hospital on Hesperian Boulevard in Hayward. Police believe that Esteban, Le's former classmate at Mount Carmel High School in San Diego, attacked her in the hospital's garage.

Esteban, 27, told an interviewer shortly after Le vanished that she openly hated Le for ruining her relationship with her former boyfriend. She denied having anything to do with the 26-year-old Le's disappearance, but police have outlined evidence that they say points to Esteban as the killer.

Le's blood was found in her 2010 Honda CRV, which she had parked in the Kaiser hospital's parking garage. The car was discovered a half mile away the day after she was last seen."

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/09/17/BA551L61TM.DTL#ixzz1YJi2yEG5
 
MsFacetious said:
Esteban, who is pregnant, was arrested at her condominium on Monterra Terrace in Union City, which is about 12 miles from the site where the body was found Saturday. She is being held without bail at Santa Rita Jail in Dublin.

Police have not cited a specific motive for the killing but did note the interview that Esteban gave to KGO shortly after Le was last seen in which she blamed Le for destroying her relationship with Scott M. of Fremont, her ex-boyfriend and the father of their 5-year-old daughter.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/09/17/BA551L61TM.DTL#ixzz1YHuh7QmN

So this chick has a 5 year old and is pregnant (who is the Dad of that baby?? The same guy, or someone else... wondering where that baby is going to end up.)

Despite having children to take care of... she is still immature enough to be angry at someone that she feels ruined her relationship.
To be consumed by that and focused on that, instead of working on fixing that relationship, or just making the best of it for your daughter.

If someone ruined your relationship, then it obviously was not strong enough in the first place.
Instead of just moving on... she shatters Michelle's family... she shatters her own family... and there is also that 5 year old girl and new baby.

I am not immature, petty and jealous enough to understand this mindset I guess. :waitasec:
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I don't think it has to do with simple immaturity and pettiness. The woman is psycho. She is violently dangerous. I think with her it was just a matter of time before she was jailed for some sort of horribly violent act.

I can see her cutting off her boyfriend's you know what, or killing her children to hurt her ex, or any host of evil, violent acts. She reminds me of Gabriel Johnson's mother, Elizabeth, or Katherine Kieu Becker, or Trenton Duckett's mom. You know, seriously deranged and vengeful monsters who really don't care whether they go to jail, as long as they "get back" at whoever they feel wronged them.

But let me make clear, although I think those types are severely disturbed, they aren't insane in the legal sense at all. Otherwise, IMO, they wouldn't have hidden or tried to hide what they did.
 
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