CA-Sandra Cantu Missing/Located from Tracy, #6

[Kat]

Steadfast can you please amend your map to reflect the new addresses that we found today? That would be an enormous help! TIA for your time.

 

[JDB]

I think that is a typo. 812 W CKIVER RD if you google that address it asks you did you mean : 812 W CLOVER RD.

The K and the I are the typo'ed letters.

Interesting also that two of the mobile homes in that park are listed for rent, when you google the Ckiver rd and get clover road.

http://http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/812-W-Clover-Rd-Unit-20_Tracy_CA_95376_1106969788


So that leads me to believe that it was a typo of the street name. I'm open to corrections though

I used to live in MHP They do not call the APT they are called spaces.

 

[Kat]

slayter's wife

Thank you nurse! I am giving you a big ol' fellow military wife kiss! :blowkiss:!

 

[SeriouslySearching]

is there one way in and out of the mhp? If so, seems the camera could catch any vehicles coming/going.

You can go around the other street of the complex to avoid the camera coming in or out.

 

[JDB]

http://www.whitepages.com/search/Re...265104331&lower=4&more_info=1&form_mode=opt_b

I sit corrected :crazy:

 

[STEADFAST]

I used to live in MHP They do not call the APT they are called spaces.

A lot of references to lot #s in Orchard Estates are listed as "APT." Often, that is the only choice given for a unit # on a form or something like that.

 

[lurkeyloo]

We need an updated list of warrants and searches and questioning, with names and trailor numbers. This is so confusing.

Warrants are now sealed by the court, so I doubt we'll get much info on them including location from LE anyway.

 

[Kat]

I used to live in MHP They do not call the APT they are called spaces.

C Plummer
812 W Clover Rd, Spc 88

 

[Salem]

FTR, I happen to LIVE in Tracy. I know what the people here want to know. They want to know that they HAVE a suspect. They want to hear that there IS evidence that links to a specific person or persons. I do appreciate that they are keeping her name in the news, I really do (though around here, there's NOBODY who isn't on top of this story!) Just as there was "no evidence of an abduction" and "no evidence of a body in the container"...I don't believe that there's nothing to the stolen luggage story. (Whether it was fabricated after the fact, whatever...I'm sure *someone* said it and it's being looked into.)

Please, forgive me if I'm coming off sounding rude or witchy...that isn't my intention. I just think that at some point, they need to just give some written statement of "nothing new yet to report" and have pressers maybe once a day or every 2 days. JMO, of course...

Not rude or witchy at all 2step. My point was - there was no OFFICIAL report of stolen luggage. I think this is very important. If someone is now saying the luggage was stolen it MAY be because they are trying to cover their azz. That is where I was going with that. Especially if they are saying it was stolen on the day Sandra was abducted. It would be nice to know where this "stolen" comment originally came from.

I understand what you are saying and I send my sympathy, not only to Sandra's family, but to the whole community of Tracy.

Salem

 

[riddlez]

Here is an aerial view of 88:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?style=b&where1=812%20W%20Clover%20Rd,%20Tracy,%20CA

 

[nursebeeme]

You can go around the other street of the complex to avoid the camera coming in or out.

they took all the video from people who had cameras in the park including video from the hotel across the street. LE described it as hundreds of hours of footage. The fbi is studying it...and was not thru it all as of saturday at the am presser according to LE

ETA: there is more than one home with cameras in the park

 

[STEADFAST]

Thank you nurse! I am giving you a big ol' fellow military wife kiss! :blowkiss:!

How many of us are military wives?

:wave:

Can I have a hug?

Right now, unless there's some breaking news in the case, I'm going to go back and find info and links for Lawless, Sinclair, Slayter, and Wohler. Who they lived with, what they drove, where they lived -- if possible. It would be nice to have these all consolidated.

 

[Kat]

Is unit 88 located in the direction from which Sandra came through (maybe behind the club house area)? Trying to figure this out.

 

[nursebeeme]

Here is an aerial view of 88:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?style=b&where1=812 W Clover Rd, Tracy, CA

riddelz..YOUR MAP ROCKS!

 

[STEADFAST]

Here is an aerial view of 88:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?style=b&where1=812 W Clover Rd, Tracy, CA

No matter what unit you search for on Google maps, the little arrow points to the same place.

 

[steveslo]

I did a map with some house numbers to try to figure out the numbering system. Sandra lived at #63, Wohler lives at #43, and I think I remember that the Lawlesses live at #57?? I haven't seen an address for Sinclair.
(The house #s on the map are addresses confirmed by real estate ad pictures.) Maybe someone can figure it out.

This is my first post so please bear with me. If I could post another photo I would - but not sure how.

I don't believe that #34 is correct on this map. If you follow logically on the outside row of the park - #7 and #20 seem correct. Continue with this in the same manner back to the entrance. The last house number would be #47 (at the other side of the entrance to #1).

#48 would start in the middle on Peach to #57 (Lawless) at the end of the row. #58 starts at the end of Cantu's street up to #67. Across from Cantu's begins #68 down to #72. #73 begins at the end of Apricot up to #77. #78 begins at the top of Apricot down to #87. #88 starts at the end of Apple up to #97 (corner of Apple and Orchard).

And it is my understanding that Lawless is #57, Sinclair is #43, Slayter is #61, Wohler is #81. Thus #57 & #61 are in the direction Sandra turned to in the video tape.

 

[nursebeeme]

kittyKAT, look at riddelz' map!

 

[riddlez]

So maybe there is gentleman in the home?
Snipped:

Document Detail
Instrument Number: 77239447
Sequence #: 0
Date Received: 12/05/1977 12:00:00 AM
Document Type: DEED OF TRUST & ASSIGN OF RENT
Book: 5165
Page: 205
Names
PLUMMER, S G JR & COLETTE M
Associated Names
PLUMMER, C M

http://rechart1.co.alameda.ca.us/docdetail.asp?id=zcyMUlfIs%03%0FNmO!uX!4nDc%3DoAeFpzk0N&ms=0&cabinet=opr&pg=&id2=TIvNW7jxH%03%0FMsEpJVYUqTc3psJ!nS8xO%3E77239447%3C/a%3E%3C!--7--%3E%3C!--K--%3E%3C!--q--%3E%3C!--n--%3E%3C!--%3Ctd

 

[Nonni Brenda]

We need a map of this entire trailer park! The numbering system DOES NOT make sense. I have tried to count those units in several "logical" ways and it never comes out righ . I wonder if there is one on the State site? I'll try to look later today. In California, the state Dept of HUD is in charge of all mobile home parks.

I thought Slayter was 43 - right behind the clubhouse? I'll try to find a link. I'm not sure we ever heard where Wohler or Sinclair were, but Lawless is 57, right?

Salem

I also have Slayter as 43, Wohler 81, and lawless 57. This is from a post I read early yesterday. Could be wrong, but I did write them down at the time. Nonni Brenda

 

[MCDRAW]

I didn't allow mine to roam the neighborhood alone and that was 20 years ago. It is never a good idea, imo. It didn't cost my kids their freedom to not be alone, but I swore their photos would never end up on a milk carton. We practiced safer alternatives than running around by themselves. I didn't find it was in any way detrimental to their mental health or stability in the long run. It was common sense and the way I protected them from many things...not only predators.

I do not allow my children to roam the neighborhood alone. My children do play outside with the neighbors children unattended. Either in our yard or theirs. If in my yard, I watch them from the window and if in their yard she does the same. I believe Sandra's Mother was lulled into a sense of safety. She knew her neighbors (or thought she did) and another neighbor said she thought everyone watched out for everyone. Maybe I have been lulled into that same sense of safety. I don't know. I just know because I have taught them to be so cautious, they often miss out on fun things. If we are in a crowd, such as a birthday party, where we might not know everyone. My children won't participate because they won't leave my side.