Found Alive CA - Sherri Papini, 34, Redding, 2 November 2016 - #17

[Classy1]

I wonder why they left their 2 dogs behind?

When my husband and I moved across the country we took our then-kitty Pooki with us.

Doesn't make any sense.

Pooki passed over that rainbow bridge 11 years ago but we still think of her.

It makes perfect sense to me. Firstly, dogs need to be walked and I can imagine the Papinis want to keep a low profile for many reasons. I would also imagine that Sherri needs a lot of care after going through such a traumatic ordeal. Having pets to look after will only add to their responsibilities at this time and make it more difficult to focus on Sherri and her recovery. JMO

 

[Ontario Mom]

Because he brought more publicity to the case, putting her face out there. He also may have scared the abductors/abductor into releasing her, before someone else turned them in.

Publicity, sure. As to the other, that's just more speculation. I mean, yeah we're all speculating about all sorts of things but to actually credit CG for SP's release is rather premature, without facts backing that up.

 

[Sillybilly]

Some posts discussing the church have been removed while we review how to, or whether to, approach the subject.

 

[Westsloper]

Italian I believe

 

[JeannaT]

I wonder why they left their 2 dogs behind?

When my husband and I moved across the country we took our then-kitty Pooki with us.

Doesn't make any sense.

Pooki passed over that rainbow bridge 11 years ago but we still think of her.

Maybe she's in a rehab facility that doesn't allow dogs. Maybe they're in a rental property, or a family home that has other dogs and it would be an undue burden to bring theirs along.

 

[JeannaT]

I sure wish there was a way to denote that something new has happened in a case, like a little red asterisk. It's tedious going through pages of postings and not have anything new.

 

[Classy1]

Is Lake16 still with us?

 

[MaryG12]

OH MY LORD!!!!!! I am freaked out right now…

oh wow….such a scary thing happened way too close to home for me…:wow


Last week I dropped my daughter off at her nice, supposedly safe upscale apartment. It is pretty expensive and in a very ‘safe’ area because she is 23 and very attractive and I always worry about her safety. She attracts a lot of unwanted attention.

I am glad she lives with her boyfriend and I think it may have been a good thing after what just happened.

I was dropping her off and then streaming in right behind us were 3 police cars, pulling right up to the locked door she was about to enter into the building. She stopped for a second and one of the officers asked her her apt number, she told them and he told her to go ahead but to go right to her apt and stay inside.

She called me later and said that her neighbor saw another tenant being handcuffed and escorted to a squad car. He was a 30 yr old guy, who she knew from walking her dog in the apt. doggie yard. She said he seemed like an OK guy but he was kind of flirty so she kept her distance.

She assumed he was selling or dealing drugs.

HOWEVER, just now found out what happened___
OKAY—get ready——want to know what he was arrested for????

arrested for SEX TRAFFICKING of FORCED and ABDUCTED UNDERAGE GIRLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


A 16 yr old girl WENT MISSING. Her parents reported it and were searching for her. Cops eventually found her —being held in a Moreno Valley apt with 5 others, all forced into submission and working as sex workers.



RIVERSIDE: MULTI-STATE SEX-TRAFFICKING RING UNCOVERS 20 VICTIMS, MANY JUVENILES

http://riversidecountynewssource.or...king-ring-uncovers-20-victims-many-juveniles/


RIVERSIDE – Officials announced the arrest of an alleged pimp who has been charged with human-trafficking of a 16-year-old girl and advertising her services as a prostitute in multiple online publications.

The man, identified as Lawrence Gunn Jr., 32, was arrested without incident Nov. 29, according to Riverside Sheriff’s Sergeant John Sawyer.

20 victims, many juveniles, recovered after 10-month-long investigation


The investigation into Gunn’s illegal activities began in February when authorities traced a 16-year-old victim to a Moreno Valley motel, where Gunn was forcing her to work as a prostitute. The young girl’s family had reported her as missing.

In addition to the 16-year-old girl, officials discovered five more victims who were being forced to work for Gunn as prostitutes in Moreno Valley. Officials determined three of the recovered victims in the Moreno Valley motel were minors.

Many of Gunn’s victims “branded” with his moniker

Gunn, who goes by the street name, “Classified,” allegedly branded many of his prostitutes, including the 16-year-old girl with tattoos of his moniker. Many had his moniker tattooed over their right eyes or on their upper bodies. Gunn did this to permanently mark the sex workers he forced into prostitution.

According to officials, this type of tattooing, commonly referred to as “branding,” is commonly used by sex traffickers to not only dehumanize their victims, but to also permanently mark them as the personal property of the human trafficker.




OH MY GOD. This guy was speaking with my daughter, sometimes at 10 or 11 at night---inside the locked gates of her apt. complex. She'd go out to walk her dog sometimes and he'd be out there too. :thud:

PS===he lived in an apartment in Woodland Hills---hours away from the trafficking victims. He lived on a treelined, upper income, quiet street.

OMG that is SO scary! :O I am glad your daughter is safe but that is way too close for comfort. Yeah I'd be moving out of that apartment complex if it happened near me and my husband.

After 17 threads on the SP case I am starting to understand why sex trafficking (like illegal drug selling) is classified a "the easy way out" - but the reality is there is no easy way out.

Guess some people cannot be bothered to develop some real skills and get real jobs.

 

[TexMex]

Publicity, sure. As to the other, that's just more speculation. I mean, yeah we're all speculating about all sorts of things but to actually credit CG for SP's release is rather premature, without facts backing that up.

Our VI reports he/she as well as the family think the involvement of CG kept Sherri's face in the news and helped win her release. Even if CG hoped to promote himself as well

 

[creepcrusher]

Publicity, sure. As to the other, that's just more speculation. I mean, yeah we're all speculating about all sorts of things but to actually credit CG for SP's release is rather premature, without facts backing that up.

It is speculation but since it's a possibility, and people don't usually kidnap victims and give them back- It's only reasonable to give him some of the credit.

Why?

Because people don't usually have a negotiator in cases like these.

 

[Satchie]

I understand that we have been told that no ransom has been paid, but if a ransom had been paid, would we know?

Exactly. CG promised not to tell authorities.

Gamble said whoever may have Papini doesn't have to worry he'll get authorities involved.

"We have no desire to set up an individual to get caught," he said. "I'm a local guy. The last thing I want to do is trick somebody and then they're going to come right after me. So I'm not going to do that."

http://archive.redding.com/news/loc...-well-use-the-money-to-get-you-402495816.html

 

[Classy1]

It is speculation but since it's a possibility, and people don't usually kidnap victims and give them back- It's only reasonable to give him some of the credit.

Why?

Because people don't usually have a negotiator in cases like these.

Yes there was a lot publicity regarding SP's abduction. However, I think CG added to that publicity and it could be that both the media coverage of her abduction and his involvement contributed to her release.

 

[Gardener1850]

I understand that we have been told that no ransom has been paid, but if a ransom had been paid, would we know?

I sure hope not.

 

[Hatfield]

Our VI reports he/she as well as the family think the involvement of CG kept Sherri's face in the news and helped win her release. Even if CG hoped to promote himself as well

IMO
I think her perceived beauty and strikingly long blonde hair was the primary factor why this case went national and international. However, I do have to admit that CG's bizarre involvement in the case added to that publicity.

The first I really understood about this case was on TV on a major news channel and what struck me was the beautiful picture of her they kept showing. I suspect others had that reaction and helped the case take off.

I did actually see her name and case here on WS but I had not read about it until after I saw the news story. Then I started following here since we all know WS is the best place to keep current about major cases like this.

 

[creepcrusher]

I sure hope not.

I agree. I think it's better that the public never knows. And I have a pretty good idea LE wouldn't want the public to know if that were the case.

 

[MaryG12]

A general question here:

If someone is abducted, then either escaped the captors or in SP case dropped off, and is brought to a nearby hospital, is the admitted person ever asked by the doctors/nurses there about seeing a psychiatrist in-house (or recommended to see one) to help overcome the traumatic experience? If yes, would it apply to all hospitals? What about on a state level?

Am genuinely curious about this.

 

[Ibiz]

"Sympathetic" being a relative thing. Both women abducted her, and both women had to be aware of the weeks of torture even if both didn't inflict it, but only one woman let her go.

Shoving Sherri out the car door --letting her live--is yes, a sympathetic thing to do compared to the option of killing her.

IMO the money being offered as bounty the day before likely has everything in the world to do with Sherri's release. My guess is it forced her abductors to make a decision what to do with Sherri, and that one wanted to kill her and the woman who released her didn't. For whatever reason.

Or one may have been ready to roll on the other for the bounty money, or they could have became paranoid of each other.

 

[Sillybilly]

Posts about the church have been reinstated as it does seem to be quite central to this case.

No bashing of other religions, and remember to keep your posts respectful, non-accusatory, and within TOS.

 

[robthomaseyes]

I was originally going on the assumption that she was in really, really bad shape b/c of the warnings the ER gave her husband about bracing himself. But I now think that - THANKFULLY - the ER staff overexaggerated; especially in light of the fact that when Sherri flagged down that woman, AS, AS didn't seem to think she was hurt as badly as the ER led everybody to believe. It makes perfect sense now that the hospital wouldn't want to keep her, and that SP and KP didn't feel it necessary, either.

 

[Classy1]

A general question here:

If someone is abducted, then either escaped the captors or in SP case dropped off, and is brought to a nearby hospital, is the admitted person ever asked by the doctors/nurses there about seeing a psychiatrist in-house (or recommended to see one) to help overcome the traumatic experience? If yes, would it apply to all hospitals? What about on a state level?

Am genuinely curious about this.

I don't know for a fact, as I am not a hospital nurse, but I would assume that they would take a holistic approach and broach the subject with the patient, since we are not only talking about physical injuries here. JMO