Deceased/Not Found CA - Sierra LaMar, 15, Morgan Hill, 16 March 2012 #8 *A. Garcia-Torres guilty*

[LisaB]

I never noticed the word "Mayhem" painted on that tin shed. I wonder when it was put there. That is not exactly a common word.

1. It is used in charges when people have done some mutilation.

2. Prior to seeing it in charges, Iused to think it was only used for crazy, out of control situations.

Seeing it now on a farm shed that played a role with some evidence is odd. I wonder the hiding place was chosen because of the word...and they took it to mean out of control.

Isn't that the "name" of the character in the Allstate insurance commercials on TV? He always introduces himself as Mayhem and then goes on to say he is a rabid animal living in your attic insulation, or a jilted teenaged girl texting while driving who plows into your parked vehicle... there's a whole series of ads.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9eqj7xRzk0
www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFVpaQGltrI
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGtFbFMOkpU

 

[Wendy101]

Sorry I've been out at work and just catching up. The photo thing...

Firstly it is taken with an iphone 4 but DIDN'T SIERRA HAVE AN ANDROID PHONE????? So who's phone was the shot taken on???

Also if, as posted here by someone, the photo was taken by Sierra and sent to some lad who sent it the next day (ie the 17th) to Sierra's mother and the mother has an iphone- could that account for the date stamp?

Also when Sierra is facetiming herself- the shot is taken through the laptop- through the webcam most likely- not a mirror. As the computer is running facetime, you see a small pic of her through the iphone that is on the computer screen, and you see what the webcam is seeing- ie her holding the phone.

I'm sure I saw on her twitter comments about how people couldn't facetime her which made sense as she supposedly had an android phone and facetime is an Iphone thing. Does anyone know if the mum has an iphone???

BBM: interesting question..
Does a photo that was received have a time stamp on it? Marlene has said many things about this photo, and one of them is Sierra sent it to a boy, who sent it to her the next morning (17th)... So now Marlenes phone should have a incoming photo right? Would it be time stamped?

 

[houndstooth]

Along the lines of a "staged abduction"... first of all, the phone was destroyed within minutes of leaving the house. So IF the abductor actually took Sierra from inside the house, and removed the phone from the house, knew they planned to throw it out of the car ASAP and would not need a charger.

On the off chance she was running away, Sierra could have thought along the same lines. If she knew she had to ditch her phone, why take the charger?

And if she left willingly, maybe even planning to run away for a time, she might have left the charger intentionally, knowing she could pick one up at "Five Below" but that it would give the appearance she had been abducted. Then when things went bad and he phone was taken and she realized she had been duped, it was a moot point.

I don't think she planned to run away. I think she MIGHT have planned to skip school, and the text may even have been related or a "code" to a friend about her plans. We know so little that there's a lot of room for guesswork.

I don't think she ran away.
She didn't take her inhaler.

You have totally misconstrued my concern over the charger.
Mom says she usually takes the charger,
But, it's found in the home.

Am I to believe that some abductor came in the home and packed this bag
for her?

I can assure you, I do not.

 

[ynotdivein]

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[R.U.Kidding!]

Timely post, considering tomorrow is the 1-yr anniversary of Holly Bobo going missing (I know you've followed that case as I have)...
eerie some of the similarities between Holly and Sierra's cases, -- happening almost at the same time in the morning, just outside their homes, just two items found so far in both cases despite the massive searches done, and I'm sure there are more....

Sadly if you go to Holly's thread, you might be the only one there now as the case is cold. Hope this does not happen here!

Now, what you said may not be so far off, at least the thought went thru my mind is there any way a perp or perps could have taken Holly and then moved on and somehow found Sierra - seems impossible, I know...

Hi Old Steve,

I know we have followed many of the same cases,OS, and most of them are going cold. I was going to post the same similarities you posted here about Holly and Sierra's case being very similar....and actually that is what started my thinking along the lines of many cases being connected in some way.

We can only hope LE has already checked these cases and compared notes.
The fact that both young women live in rural areas,is also interesting. Wonder how many of these other cases were young girls who lived in rather secluded areas. I really could see a person or persons seeking these particular girls out as part of a pattern. They have gotten away with the disappearances because they are experts by now at knowing "their" victim.

If there are 53 cases of missing girls ---what is the likelihood there are 53 different perps operating across several states, especially with the same MO.

Maybe states should "sonar" their various bodies of water routinely each year. How interesting would that be? It could be the key to many a missing person case.

 

[R.U.Kidding!]

Timely post, considering tomorrow is the 1-yr anniversary of Holly Bobo going missing (I know you've followed that case as I have)...
eerie some of the similarities between Holly and Sierra's cases, -- happening almost at the same time in the morning, just outside their homes, just two items found so far in both cases despite the massive searches done, and I'm sure there are more....

Sadly if you go to Holly's thread, you might be the only one there now as the case is cold. Hope this does not happen here!

Now, what you said may not be so far off, at least the thought went thru my mind is there any way a perp or perps could have taken Holly and then moved on and somehow found Sierra - seems impossible, I know...

Hi Old Steve,

I know we have followed many of the same cases,OS, and most of them are going cold. I was going to post the same similarities you posted here about Holly and Sierra's case being very similar....and actually that is what started my thinking along the lines of many cases being connected in some way.

We can only hope LE has already checked these cases and compared notes.
The fact that both young women live in rural areas,is also interesting. Wonder how many of these other cases were young girls who lived in rather secluded areas. I really could see a person or persons seeking these particular girls out as part of a pattern. They have gotten away with the disappearances because they are experts by now at knowing "their" victim.

If there are 53 cases of missing girls ---what is the likelihood there are 53 different perps operating across several states, especially with the same MO.

Maybe states should "sonar" their various bodies of water routinely each year. How interesting would that be? It could be the key to many a missing person case.

Good to see you here OS!

 

[HauntsForHope]

wow, this case has become a runaway train... pages and pages of nothing.

 

[boaps]

Something I thought of the other day but forgot to post: as to the questions over which clothes she may have had on, why her mom couldn't tell what clothes were missing etc. She was going back and forth to her moms and dads and probably had clothes at one place that the other parent didn't even know about, or rarely saw, so itwould definitely be hard to pin down exactly what clothes she owned. IMO

 

[Plumeria5]

Someone emailed to answer an ad I had on Craigslist. He left an area code of 408. I Googled it to see where he was from and it was ...drumroll Morgan Hill, Gilroy area! That is just so coincidental...:what:

 

[Plumeria5]

wow, this case has become a runaway train... pages and pages of nothing.

Are you saying we DERAILED??:floorlaugh:

http://cupertino.patch.com/articles/marine-sonar-helpful-in-missing-person-cases#photo-9552364
Underwater sonar. No wonder it takes hours to go through these images.

 

[liz b.]

If the Juicy bag was placed there, not thrown, wanting it found, do you think that would suggest someone that knew her (or was acquainted with her) or more likely a total stranger?

If I wanted to confuse the police and make them think she ran away so that all the focus wouldn't be on finding an abductor, then wouldn't they have hid the bag, burned the bag, etc. Getting rid of all her possessions makes me fear by that time they didn't have Sierra in the car. Having Sierra's bag in the car with her would be the least of their worries unless they thought there was something in it like another phone.

It is like an act of taunting setting it upright neat and tidy. Strange.

Oh yes, it really is strange. And we can't fathom it because we think and feel emotions so differently from the persons who did this...

That building where the purse was found ? The one with the Mayhem graffiti ? It made me very, very uneasy...I have a strong feeling that something happened to Sierra there...

I was trained as a mathematician, and I'm not given to putting much stock in "feelings " etc. But I found it hard to sleep after I saw that place...JMO

 

[boaps]

Wow this thread is busy...

Eta I mean there are a lot of people here. 44 guests

 

[boaps]

If the Juicy bag was placed there, not thrown, wanting it found, do you think that would suggest someone that knew her (or was acquainted with her) or more likely a total stranger?

If I wanted to confuse the police and make them think she ran away so that all the focus wouldn't be on finding an abductor, then wouldn't they have hid the bag, burned the bag, etc. Getting rid of all her possessions makes me fear by that time they didn't have Sierra in the car. Having Sierra's bag in the car with her would be the least of their worries unless they thought there was something in it like another phone.

It is like an act of taunting setting it upright neat and tidy. Strange.

BBM

Did anyone ever post a picture of the purse sitting up? I remember it was mentioned but I never saw it. TIA

 

[liltexans]

Sierra search ‘won’t be curtailed because of cost’

With more than 7,500 personnel hours devoted to the nearly month-long search for missing Morgan Hill teen Sierra LaMar, authorities are saying they haven’t started thinking about how much the investigation might cost in terms of tax dollars.

http://www.gilroydispatch.com/artic...cle_9f9db4f2-a100-5455-9f91-63c4575b51c9.html

 

[SmoothOperator]

wow, this case has become a runaway train... pages and pages of nothing.

Sorry you feel that way.. But there are many of us here that are going out of our minds to find this young girl and yep.. Ya better believe we're scouring over every tiny crumb of info we have.. And will continue to.. Sorry that you see it as "nothing"..:blushing:


Still posting via mobile so plz forgive the large number of errors in my posts

 

[Wendy101]

The Necklace??? What necklace?? I read something earlier today about a necklace and Marlene hoping to find it or something like that???

 

[liltexans]

The Necklace??? What necklace?? I read something earlier today about a necklace and Marlene hoping to find it or something like that???

Here's the quote and the link. Who knows what she's talking about? It looks like a quote taken out of context to me.

Among those at the school Wednesday was Sierra's mother, Marlene LaMar.

"I have the hope that I may find a necklace or something that belongs to her," she said. "I feel I have to get out."

But as the days go by with her daughter still missing, she added, "it's definitely agonizing."

http://www.marinij.com/ci_20373049/investigators-sierra-lamar-case-study-underwater-sonar-images

 

[houndstooth]

Here's the quote and the link. Who knows what she's talking about? It looks like a quote taken out of context to me.

Among those at the school Wednesday was Sierra's mother, Marlene LaMar.

"I have the hope that I may find a necklace or something that belongs to her," she said. "I feel I have to get out."

But as the days go by with her daughter still missing, she added, "it's definitely agonizing."

http://www.marinij.com/ci_20373049/investigators-sierra-lamar-case-study-underwater-sonar-images

Why does she only hope to find a necklace or something?
I would think she'd only hope to find her daughter, the heck with a momento.

I thought the family was being discouraged from here on out to search.

 

[liltexans]

Why does she only hope to find a necklace or something?
I would think she'd only hope to find her daughter, the heck with a momento.

I thought the family was being discouraged from here on out to search.

I didn't want to say that, but yes, I agree.

I think they are not allowing the family to search.

 

[Wendy101]

Here's the quote and the link. Who knows what she's talking about? It looks like a quote taken out of context to me.


http://www.marinij.com/ci_20373049/investigators-sierra-lamar-case-study-underwater-sonar-images

Well, sounds like Marlene is trying to tell us there's is a necklace missing... I looked at all of Sierra photos and notice she does not wear a necklace everyday.. Since Marlene wants to find it, I assume Sierra has it on or it is missing from her home....