I’m following this case as time allows, still not clear to me. Is this a real functioning nudist community? Do people own homes or simply rent them?
The homes are so close together that I have to think if there was any ruckus, excessive barking, or shouting, neighbors would have heard. Essentially everyone is within earshot in that little neighborhood.From what it looks like on the community's own website and from Yelp reviews, it sounds like some people own homes there, although it may more like mobile home park agreement since ownership records show the land actually belongs to the Olive Dell Ranch. People can also rent spaces for their travel RVs and they also offer small rented cabins for people who want to visit. It does look like a functioning nudist community, though, with an activity calendar on their website showing scheduled karaoke, bingo, music, BBQ, etc.
The homes are so close together that I have to think if there was any ruckus, excessive barking, or shouting, neighbors would have heard. Essentially everyone is within earshot in that little neighborhood.
How did he get them out of the house? Through threat or by luring them?
I'm wondering if he got them out of their home through a backdoor that lead to some underground space behind his house?
jmo
Super - thanks. Is the teal roof on the Menard house?
So, from what I read last night in court documents....one of the lawsuits is regarding whether or not it is classified as a mobile home park or a recreational vehicle park which apparently have different rules & regulations. The complaint essentially said that the owners were charging residents additional fees and/or evicting them and I believe, that is where the harassment claims/restraining orders are stemming from. It is case #CIVSB2417577 if you want to look it up (San Bernardino Open Access)From what it looks like on the community's own website and from Yelp reviews, it sounds like some people own homes there, although it may more like mobile home park agreement since ownership records show the land actually belongs to the Olive Dell Ranch. People can also rent spaces for their travel RVs and they also offer small rented cabins for people who want to visit. It does look like a functioning nudist community, though, with an activity calendar on their website showing scheduled karaoke, bingo, music, BBQ, etc.
Wonder why they didn't deploy drones and tear gas first and then, if they had to, use that battering ram? Maybe they had information that there were explosives?? IDK Just wondering...Later in the evening, law enforcement fired some type of agent into the person of interest's home. Investigators also deployed drones to get a closer look inside the man's property.
One neighbor described the person of interest as a soft-spoken gentleman.
"Probably would be the last person that you would think would do something like this," Jim Hynd said.
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SWAT rips apart home of person of interest amid search for missing Redlands couple
A SWAT team swarmed a Redlands nudist ranch and ripped apart the home of a person of interest in the disappearance of a missing couple.abc7.com
I can see that issue being contentious and it's a valid reason for complaint. But, enough to be murdered? Wow, I don't know. The perp has essentially the same set up as the victims in terms of housing type, from what it looks like. Correct me if I'm wrong.So, from what I read last night in court documents....one of the lawsuits is regarding whether or not it is classified as a mobile home park or a recreational vehicle park which apparently have different rules & regulations. The complaint essentially said that the owners were charging residents additional fees and/or evicting them and I believe, that is where the harassment claims/restraining orders are stemming from. It is case #CIVSB2417577 if you want to look it up (San Bernardino Open Access)
So terribly sad!"An arrest for murder was made on a street in a Redlands nudist ranch, where a SWAT team ripped apart the home of a person of interest in the disappearance of a missing couple, Eyewitness News has learned."
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Arrest made on street in nudist ranch stormed by SWAT in search for missing Redlands couple
An arrest for murder was made on a street in a Redlands nudist ranch, where a SWAT team ripped apart the home of a person of interest in the disappearance of a missing couple.abc7.com
I'm hoping it will all make sense when we learn the whole story because that was one strange (and destructive) take-down.Wonder why they didn't deploy drones and tear gas first and then, if they had to, use that battering ram? Maybe they had information that there were explosives?? IDK Just wondering...
Maybe so, but I find it hard to believe LE would take a tipster's word for it with such confidence until they verified it themselves. They wouldn't charge someone with murder on tip alone.
Site still not stable enough for personnel to go in.Afternoon presser from NBCLA's YouTube
Wonder why they didn't deploy drones and tear gas first and then, if they had to, use that battering ram? Maybe they had information that there were explosives?? IDK Just wondering...
Police had sent a robot with a camera into the home but initially did not see him.