Boniesli
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Me too Feme98! Hopeful that 2021 could be the year they finally receive justice.
Should be on the video (you tube)I'll have to review the account of his confession. Do you have a link? TIA
Can't find a clip, but it was on the documentary (which is on you tube). The councilor is being interviewed in shadowI'll have to review the account of his confession. Do you have a link? TIA
Should be on the video (you tube)I'll have to review the account of his confession. Do you have a link? TIA
Can't find a clip, but it was on the documentary (which is on you tube). The councilor is being interviewed in shadow "When he was discussing the 12-year-old child, he, his facial expression showed a level of discomfort, but he continually, he also killed her with a hammer.I'll have to review the account of his confession. Do you have a link? TIA
Bumping this great site! One thing I've learned to be true over the years, there was no "botching" or "corruption" relating to this case by the original investigators. They took wall panels, whatever was in the kitchen and bathroom pipes, brought in outside investigators ( which would not happen in a case they're trying to make go away). Finger prints, blood samples ECT. What exactly are they supposed to have missed? Again, great site thanks!
From the Camp 18 website:
"The Camp’s primary mission is to provide inmate fire crews for fire suppression activities in the Tehama, Glenn, Shasta and Plumas County areas. In addition to fire suppression, inmate hand crews provide a work force for conservation and community services projects in the local area."
When did these inmate work crews begin working in the local area?
Could someone previously on these crews, with knowledge of when the outer areas would be empty be involved?
What types of inmates (what are they incarcerated for) worked/work at the outside area of the prison?
How frequently were/are workers actually at the outside area of the camp?
How frequently was/is the outside area patrolled?
Was/is food stored at the camp for workers outside the prison?
Were/are there locations outside the prison to sleep available at the camp?
Do we have access to reports regarding the condition of and immediate surroundings of Tinas body when discovered?
How far away from the prison was the body?
Someone felt safe being near a prison/LE with Tina.
More than likely, I think the person has a connection to Quincy.
One of the quickest routes to the Camp is to pass through Quincy.
From the camp, Reno/Nevada would seem like a quick escape route after leaving Tina behind.
I don't think I would stay in California if I had just killed half of a family in their own home and abducted someone.
I think if it were me, I would probably jump state and work on getting far away from California.
Someone was comfortable in the woods.
There are plenty of main roads to go around, but they went into the heart of the park/woods.
Someone was comfortable around a prison/inmates/chance of LEOs.
Someone was okay with potential for nosey Park Rangers.
Did they tell Tina what to say if they were stopped/asked?
I have questions for anyone familiar with Nevada laws, Oregon laws and California laws pre 1980.
How much do we know about Tina's sexual abusers? People in their circles/periphery?
How much do we know about inmates paroled or released from Ishi Conservation Camp 18 programs? Were any from Quincy/Keddie or have family/friends there? Did any work programs take them near or into Quincy/Keddie?
Bo Boubede was a drug dealer who was close friends with Martin Smartt. He died a few years after the murders took place. Bo's real first name was John.
I have to come back to this,""Marty and Bo ran back to 26- their cabin, 100 feet away, changed out of their bloody disco suits into jeans, and ran back to the Back Door to re-establish an alibi." Bo and Marty did not change out of their "disco suits". They took off their vests at home and returned to the bar in the same suites. "Loon stayed at 28, guarding the victims and keeping the smaller boys scared. As I originally theorized, it looks as though they had no clue Justin was in 28, which is a far more sensible conclusion than any other offered. (Sensible? The Smarts were aware Justin was staying the Sharps, he was with them most of the day). Every time I've brought it up, she's forgotten all about her favorite child, her younger son, who she'd abandoned for hours while drinking at the bar. She admitted leaving him alone, supposedly asleep, but has NEVER given any indication (to me or anyone else in any known report) that Justin had come to them about sleeping at 28. Justin was a non-entity in 26, and had spent almost the entire day with Rick Sharp. Sue dropped them off at the ballfield for tryouts early that Saturday, but it appears Marty picked up Justin. (Marty did not pick Justin up in Quincy, if he had, wouldn't that mean he knew where he was and who with?) Marty was proved to be in EQ at the time, a 32 yo drug dealer seen at the local video arcade. Why else would he be there? The same reports also state John had been there around the same time. Of course, this lines up: the arcade was across the intersection from the Meeks house. Less than 100 yards from where John had spent his last night on earth.
Back at the bar after the initial attacks, Bo and Marty quietly returned to 28 after Last Call. Two packs of Camels were found in the cabin. (It's known The camel's belonged to the boys, where's the report of them "smoking and acting silly"?)Sue smoked B&, Marty and Bo smoked Camels. Loon, too, I believe. One pack was empty, crumpled and abandoned on a bookshelf. The other pack, nearly full, was on the couch, on a bare spot where a cushion had been removed.
The cushion was probably meant to silence the violence to follow. It was placed on the floor in a small area lit by the bathroom light across the hallway. Although the killers probably brought a flashlights, the only light turned on during their entire time in 28 was that light. In turn, each victim (unk abt Tina) was placed on the cushion and assaulted. If Dana was still alive, he would have been first to be killed in the second volley. " I don't believe this is supported by the blood evidence.