Deceased/Not Found Canada - Alvin, 66, & Kathy Liknes, 53, Nathan O'Brien, 5, Calgary, 30 Jun 2014 - #23

[olivebpa1]

This is creepy. I get stalking Alvin but having a folder for Kathy Liknes? Spooky. There is just so much going on in this guy's head it's mindblowing really.

And he had saved her pinterest? That is weird. Seems like he was obsessed to just get any info he could.

 

[JadeSLeuth]

Bill GravelandVerified account ‏@BillGraveland 32s33 seconds ago
Court is over until 10 a.m. tomorrow. There will be more testimony from Constable Kraan tomorrow. #Garland

Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts 39s40 seconds ago
Kraan found "quite a few" locksmithing emails. Most of them had been deleted. #Garland

Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt 2m2 minutes ago
Kraan said he based those findings on content of emails send #Garland

 

[gunner.]

I wonder if the photos he had were saved profile photos from Facebook or Pinterest or if they were 'surveillance' pictures.

The question is, why? Fetish or fantasy? To show to an accomplice?

 

[Cherchri]

Thanks to Jade Le Sleuth and Kamille for another day of keeping us posted!

 

[Georgeo]

Gore and death were themes for the day. Why save these photos? Were some of them of the victims (previous victims of DG perhaps)?

Sicko belongs in in prison for this evidence alone!!!! Normal people don't save such things on computer!!!!!

 

[gen_bug]

The Kill Without Joy - The Complete How to Kill Book is available online.
Definately an interesting choice of book......

 

[otto]

Gore and death were themes for the day. Why save these photos? Were some of them of the victims (previous victims of DG perhaps)?

Sicko belongs in in prison for this evidence alone!!!! Normal people don't save such things on computer!!!!!

It is information he downloaded from the internet. There's nothing wrong with that. Evidently he's not alone, because someone else made it available.

 

[Krystine]

He must have gone into the underbelly of the internet to find those pics and tutorials.

 

[JadeSLeuth]

He must have gone into the underbelly of the internet to find those pics and tutorials.

I wondered about that. Dark Net?

 

[Slebby]

(Snipped)
Or maybe if he disguised himself as a women and went to the estate sale he may have stole a set of keys which may have been laying within reach. It could explain how he got ahold of the truck key Fob that parts were found to be burned.

This is the best theory I've seen to explain the key fob, thanks Hatfield.


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[olivebpa1]

It is information he downloaded from the internet. There's nothing wrong with that. Evidently he's not alone, because someone else made it available.

While i agree this evidence ALONE isn't enough to convict him there is most definitely something wrong with downloading and saving that stuff to his computer. Just because he got the pictures and files from other sickos on the internet does not make it okay.

 

[aber]

I wondered about that. Dark Net?

You don't have to search long to find anything they've described. Google would give you hits using anything gore related as search terms and it doesn't take long to start going down that rabbit hole. There was an Edmonton based gore website that was in the news some years ago. Unfortunately this type of content is very easy to access.. or rather, unfortunately enough people are interested in seeing this that it exists

 

[KMouse]

He must have gone into the underbelly of the internet to find those pics and tutorials.

You don't have to go far at all. No dark net needed. There are a lot of gore sites that have photos of people and not from movies. There are fetish sites for everything and anything too. It's disturbing.

 

[subwaydreaming]

Why do diapers keep coming up?

I get that it's a weird fetish and might tell you about DG's character or habits. But how does it relate to the crime? Didn't the Crown ask JO if her parents wore adult diapers?

 

[KMouse]

Probably had no clue. :notgood:

No. It takes two to have a feud. I am certain this is an obsession.

 

[Female]

I wonder if the photos he had were saved profile photos from Facebook or Pinterest or if they were 'surveillance' pictures.

The question is, why? Fetish or fantasy? To show to an accomplice?

The photos he had of Kathy were saved off Facebook and pintrest. 1 still had the pintrest link in the file name.

I'll update WS on my in court experience in a bit here. Just want to read the tweets so I can compare my experience and ears/eyes to what was tweeted.

 

[Snoopster]

Why do diapers keep coming up?

I get that it's a weird fetish and might tell you about DG's character or habits. But how does it relate to the crime? Didn't the Crown ask JO if her parents wore adult diapers?

I'm not getting it either. Is their some specific 'diaper evidence' that ties to the Liknes'? Perhaps we just haven't heard it yet. Or....the aerial photos caught one of them lying there with a diaper on?? Wasn't there a reference earlier in the trial about no top and no pants, or am I getting my cases mixed up?

 

[Tealgrove]

The photos he had of Kathy were saved off Facebook and pintrest. 1 still had the pintrest link in the file name.

I'll update WS on my in court experience in a bit here. Just want to read the tweets so I can compare my experience and ears/eyes to what was tweeted.

I think we are missing lots. I watched the interview with one of the reporters that is live tweeting and I got the feeling that they are watering down what they tweet. It just seems that a whole day goes by and we aren't getting much info. During the Bosma trial there was a great deal of twitter downtime because of legal arguments but when testimony was happening I think we heard as much as was possible from a tweet. If that's happening here, I'm missing it. I'm also having difficulty following the "story". I'm surprised we don't know about the DNA of the blood in the house. Who's was it? The evidence just seems to be coming in fits and starts.

At one point today, they were talking about the computers and the next tweets were about DG in a silver rental car driving past the farm, turning around, and heading back. Then nothing! How did that get in there? Did we miss a whole bunch of stuff on his arrest at that point?

I'm confused. Testimony seems to be jumping all over the place. MOO

 

[olivebpa1]

I'm not getting it either. Is their some specific 'diaper evidence' that ties to the Liknes'? Perhaps we just haven't heard it yet. Or....the aerial photos caught one of them lying there with a diaper on?? Wasn't there a reference earlier in the trial about no top and no pants, or am I getting my cases mixed up?

Not a mix up. They did say that they are seen laying face down with no pants or top. They didn't say naked (although would they say this even if they were?) so one or both could be in an adult diaper.

Would the crown be allowed to speculate that because he had images of women restrained while wearing diapers and then diapers were found at one of the crime scenes that he may have done that to Kathy?

 

[GIALLO]

I'm not getting it either. Is their some specific 'diaper evidence' that ties to the Liknes'? Perhaps we just haven't heard it yet. Or....the aerial photos caught one of them lying there with a diaper on?? Wasn't there a reference earlier in the trial about no top and no pants, or am I getting my cases mixed up?

“Alvin and Kathy lying prone, face down on the grass at the Garland farm with no shirt on and no pants on,”*Faulkner told the jury. “You will also see a small figure curled up on the grass.”


https://www.google.ca/amp/globalnews.ca/news/3172718/high-profile-triple-murder-trial-to-begin-for-douglas-garland-accused-in-nathan-obrien-case/amp/?client=safari