Deceased/Not Found Canada - Alvin, 66, & Kathy Liknes, 53, Nathan O'Brien, 5, Calgary, 30 Jun 2014 - #27

[olivebpa1]

Yes!!! Two paths to first-degree murder for Nathan. There is no way he isn't getting first-degree on all three now!

I've always thought first degree for Nathan as well but I know some we're arguing possible second degree.

 

[JadeSLeuth]

Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts 2m2 minutes ago
#Garland would have to have intended to restrict Nathan's freedom to move about for him to unlawfully confine him, says Gates.

 

[naz]

He contradicted himself...

I wonder if that would be in reference to Nathan.. DG intentionally killed N. but he did not plan to do it?

 

[JadeSLeuth]

Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts 1m1 minute ago
Jurors can also consider whether evidence from home leads them to believe Nathan was taken from the home alive, says Gates. #Garland

 

[Tealgrove]

Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts 1m1 minute ago
If #Garland unlawfully confined Nathan before killing him that would be first-degree murder as well, Gates explains.

Lucas MeyerVerified account ‏@meyer_lucas 1m1 minute ago
Still on subject of 1st degree murder question of O'Brien, Gates goes over factor of "unlawful confinement" #Garland #yyc

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 1m1 minute ago
If Nathan was "unlawfully confined" (mentally, physically or was injured) that would be 1st degree murder as well #Garland #yyc

there is is.

Bingo....that is means to find him Guilty of 1st degree in Nathan's death. Gotcha!

 

[JadeSLeuth]

Bill GravelandVerified account ‏@BillGraveland 35s36 seconds ago
Gates says it will be up to the jury to decide if Nathan O'Brien was taken from his grandparent's home and killed at the #Garland farm.

Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt 38s39 seconds ago
Gates: jury needs to decide if Nathan was taken alive from the Liknes home and killed at #Garland farm (unlawfully confinded)

 

[JadeSLeuth]

Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts 52s53 seconds ago

"It's for you to decide if Nathan O'Brien was taken from his grandparents' home alive and killed later on," says Gates. #Garland

 

[JadeSLeuth]

Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt 38s38 seconds ago
Gates: if jury finds Nathan died in Liknes spare room, #Garland could be guilty of 2nd degree murder

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 58s58 seconds ago Lucie Edwardson Retweeted Lucie Edwardson
Gates tells jurors they have to decide if Nathan O'Brien was alive from his grandparents and killed at #Garland farm. #yyc
If they believe he was alive, Gates tell them it's likely Nathan, a 5y/o, was under control #Garland control #yyc

 

[JadeSLeuth]

Raffy BoudjikanianVerified account ‏@CBCRaffy 1m1 minute ago
Judge Gates stops on a couple of occasions when speaking about five-year-old Nathan O' Brien's fate to jury. #Garland

 

[MistyWaters]

He contradicted himself...

"Gates notes a murder can be intentional without being planned #Garland"

2nd degree murder?

 

[JadeSLeuth]

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 1m1 minute ago
Gates says there is nothing to indicate #Garland had any legal reason to confine Nathan O'Brien

 

[dogmatica]

Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts 1m1 minute ago
If #Garland unlawfully confined Nathan before killing him that would be first-degree murder as well, Gates explains.

Lucas MeyerVerified account ‏@meyer_lucas 1m1 minute ago
Still on subject of 1st degree murder question of O'Brien, Gates goes over factor of "unlawful confinement" #Garland #yyc

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 1m1 minute ago
If Nathan was "unlawfully confined" (mentally, physically or was injured) that would be 1st degree murder as well #Garland #yyc

there is is.

THAT'S what I was looking for!!

 

[PrincessButtercup]

"Gates notes a murder can be intentional without being planned #Garland"

2nd degree murder?

Yes, I believe that's what he's referring to

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[Female]

He contradicted himself...

I disagree. You can intentionally kill someone without it being planned. Anger in the moment and you shoot to kill. Not pre-planned but you meant to kill.

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[JadeSLeuth]

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 24s24 seconds ago
The confinement and murder of Nathan O'Brien would need to be considered as one event, says Gates, for it to be 1st degree murder #Garland

Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts 2m2 minutes ago
Jurors would have to find #Garland murdered Nathan while continuing to confine him for it to be 1st degree murder, says Gates.

Ina SidhuVerified account ‏@CTVInaSidhu 3m3 minutes ago
Gates: jury had to determine if Nathan was taken alive and killed at the #garland property

Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt 3m3 minutes ago
Gates: jury has to consider if Nathan was unlawfully confined, & murdered--that would be first degree murder if they believe #Garland did it

 

[Spellbound]

"Gates notes a murder can be intentional without being planned #Garland"

2nd degree murder?

This is what I have been thinking he meant.

 

[JadeSLeuth]

Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt 1m1 minute ago
Gates: "you must consider all of the evidence, use your common sense in reaching this decision" regarding Nathan O'Brien #Garland

 

[dogmatica]

Meghan GrantVerified account ‏@CBCMeg 32s33 seconds ago
Gates: Nathan's impromptu presence Liknes home likely a surprise but doesn't mean 1st degree murder ruled out as possible verdict #Garland

Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts 39s40 seconds ago
"Nathan's presence in the residence was in all likelihood a surprise," says Gates. #Garland

Yikes!! The judge should not be giving his opinion as to what occurred.

 

[JadeSLeuth]

Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts 1m1 minute ago
Gates taking short break before he says he'll finished his instructions to jurors. #Garland

Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt 1m1 minute ago
Gates says he is almost finished but wants to take another break before he concludes his instructions to the jury #Garland

 

[JadeSLeuth]

Meghan GrantVerified account ‏@CBCMeg 2m2 minutes ago
One more break then less than two pages left on Gates' jury charge #Garland

Bill GravelandVerified account ‏@BillGraveland 1m1 minute ago
Justice Gates has ordered a brief adjournment in the #Garland trial. He seems to be getting closer to wrapping up.

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 1m1 minute ago
Short break in #Garland trial