Deceased/Not Found Canada - Alvin, 66, & Kathy Liknes, 53, Nathan O'Brien, 5, Calgary, 30 June 2014 - #7

[Bravo]

I'm not terribly worried.

If the person who was arrested in connection with this crime, had broken bail conditions, then LE could have arrested him for that and nothing more. They could have just put him back in jail. They didn't HAVE TO charge him with 3 counts of murder. I suspect that their evidence is VERY strong because they didn't have to tip their hand yet. They have been searching for two weeks. I'm going to guess that the straw that broke the camel's back was some DNA evidence that arrived yesterday which told them that the 3 were deceased and they could link it to a suspect through various other pieces of evidence.

Have faith. I think they are being very careful and very methodical. LE does not want to have this go sideways on them.

Agree. I think something solid came back

 

[JWhite]

DG was at the motel, and found back at/near his property. Is there a chance he wasn't trying to cover something up, but rather gathering personal items preparing to FLEE *again*?

 

[Dion]

I'm wondering why a motel would even consider having a possible POI in a triple homicide staying at their property. Wouldn't the other guests have something to say about that? Talk about bad for business.

 

[peony27]

We all knew that DG was re-arrested, so if he IS the suspect then why protect his identity?? As well, DG has that high profile criminal defense lawyer... I don't see any plea bargains being made right now. I see a publicity ban in the very near future and we will all meet back here again in a few more years!! Horrible

They aren't protecting his identity more as protecting themselves and case. If he has not been formally charge they can not name him.

 

[Wondergirl]

This guy is an evil genius. I doubt he will plead guilty or bargain. JMO

I agree and he's likely to co-defend himself like he did against the Canadian Government, he thinks he is so smart.

JMO

 

[zwiebel]

This is a good suggestion. My counter-post is that DG, under the false/stolen identity, had worked in chemical labs. Chances are he already knew what needed to be done to the blood. His knowledge of the land area would also be sufficient.

Yes, I'm just not sure he'd have felt he knew enough about rates of decomposition etc though. Or cases where evidence has or has not been obtained from bodies.

I guess I just really feel the suspect may have a very analytical mind which would drive him to research, plot and plan.

If he has been working, looking at work colleagues computers might be a good idea too - if he's a genius as police said, he won't have searched on his own.

 

[Weebles]

According to a family member who spoke to Metro, and numerous media reports, Douglas Garland, described previously by police as the only person of interest in the case, was arrested Monday morning.

The news was hard to bear for family members who’ve waited anxiously for two weeks on word of their loved ones.

“I love my sister, she was a great gal,” said Randy Prevost, Kathryn’s older brother. “Always a good girl, man, heartwarming. She was always there to help, just that kind of person.”

http://metronews.ca/news/calgary/1095765/calgary-amber-alert-ended-man-arrested-three-murder-charges-pending/

 

[Wondergirl]

I'm not terribly worried.

If the person who was arrested in connection with this crime, had broken bail conditions, then LE could have arrested him for that and nothing more. They could have just put him back in jail. They didn't HAVE TO charge him with 3 counts of murder. I suspect that their evidence is VERY strong because they didn't have to tip their hand yet. They have been searching for two weeks. I'm going to guess that the straw that broke the camel's back was some DNA evidence that arrived yesterday which told them that the 3 were deceased and they could link it to a suspect through various other pieces of evidence.

Have faith. I think they are being very careful and very methodical. LE does not want to have this go sideways on them.

I totally agree.

 

[bakerlady]

I don't think we have solid confirmation he was actually at the acreage. Police Chief was pretty vague.

He could have gone somewhere during the day, with someone, and never returned home in time for the curfew and he was sought after and located.

With all of those rules upon release I am surprised he did not have an ankle monitor.

 

[JWhite]

Personally, I believe that the police and parents knew about their deaths on July 10, *IF* it is true "trash" bags were removed/taken into custody from the landfill. Does anyone know how many bags there were? Reference?

 

[Bravo]

IMO LE was watching him 24/7

 

[deugirtni]

I was thinking along the lines of... DG broke his bail agreement by being on the property, but you're right, he also had a curfew, which is undoubtedly broke since he was arrested at 1;30am (today)! I believe his curfew was 9pm, and he was arrested NOT at the place where he had been released to, but... in the middle of nowhere, 'near' his parents' Airdrie property.

This is just mind-boggling... "if" the arrested person is DG (pfft) then holy cow he's missing a cog for going back there. Did the conditions of his bail give him a curfew? I'm just dumb-founded but also thankful for his stupidity especially if whatever he was arrested in the midst of doing helps to secure a strong case against the accused.

 

[ztzt]

I always believed they were searching for bodies and I believe that the family knew that as well. They were so devastated so early on.

The clues were there that this was going to be the outcome. JO's comment about NO being in Grandma's arms. RO's comment about NO's soul. I think they knew.

Yes, I did feel that when JO said at the vigil, "We're very hopeful that they're out there. There's no doubt in our mind, we've just got to find them," she probably meant to find their bodies.

 

[Tealgrove]

I don't know how things work in Canada. Typically I am against a plea deal. IF we get closer to a trial and Lord forbid the family still haven't been found, then I think the surviving family should have a say in whether they want a plea or not. I don't know the legalese about any of it. I'm not even sure how I would feel if I were family. I just don't know.

I think if the facts lead to the arrest, and there is no doubt about the arrest for murder, then ALL murderers should have to say where the body is as part of their sentencing. Whether it lessens the sentencing or not, the surviving family should have the right to lay their loved one in respect. A proper burial as such. But sometimes that's not possible.

I don't even know what I'm saying...

How can you offer a plea deal to someone who has murdered 3 people? What can be offered? Even with a plea deal you're still going to jail and you're going away for a very long time, i.e., you are not ever going to see the light of day.

I don't think this offender feels empathy. If he did, Nathan would be alive. Therefore appealing to his sense of "doing the right thing" and helping the family isn't going to appeal to him one little bit.

Whoever committed this crime is a coward and believes he can get away with it. Methinks it will be a "not guilty plea" and that will be that. He's going to take his chances because he still has the knowledge of where the bodies are hidden. So long as they don't find the bodies he thinks he's got a chance to walk free. He's not going to hang himself out to dry when there is still the opportunity to get off.

 

[Coldpizza]

New thread coming up, please get ready to move over.

 

[LayzeeDayzee]

I'm wondering why a motel would even consider having a possible POI in a triple homicide staying at their property. Wouldn't the other guests have something to say about that? Talk about bad for business.

Depends who checked him in at the hotel and whether they watch the news, knew anything about him. Truth be told some people do not ever watch the news and are clueless about what goes on in the world around them. I can think of one motel in Airdrie that attracts more of the sketchier-element, and with all due respect I don't think they'd care about who's staying there, as long as they're paying.

 

[jillybean51]

Before we all move on from this thread,I'd just like to thank everyone for all their hard work and countless hours devoted to this case.We all had the same purpose...to find this family.Sadly it has not ended the way we had hoped.
As we eventually move on to other cases,we can rest easy knowing that WS's did everything they could.We're a great bunch of people and should be proud of all our sleuthing.Hope to see some of you on another thread and hopefully next time we'll have a happier outcome!:loveyou:

 

[LayzeeDayzee]

He could have gone somewhere during the day, with someone, and never returned home in time for the curfew and he was sought after and located.

With all of those rules upon release I am surprised he did not have an ankle monitor.

Several pages back there was a media tweet indicating that the motel DG was staying at had asked him to leave though of course we don't know when.

 

[ztzt]

For the patent dispute, why didn't DG file a lawsuit?

 

[Dion]

Did DG have access to a vehicle or was he on foot when he was arrested? If he had a vehicle, I'm sure LE would have placed a GPS tracker on it, and probably apprehended him before he reached his place of destination - which appears to have been his parents property (but not certain).

Wouldn't he have expected to find the property sealed off and probably a police presence there - seems strange that he would break his curfew and try to return there.