CANADA Canada- Amanda Antoni, 31, found dead in her basement, considered suspicious but ruled an accidental fall down stairs, Calgary, 26/10/15, *Netflix*

[Lalalacasbah]

I still feel like if she fell down these stairs her head would hit that ledge, that piggy bank is kind of around the corner. I just don't see her head hitting the piggy bank smack down from the angle.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Amanda’s autopsy report noted that she died due to blunt-force trauma, it also revealed that she didn’t have any brain trauma or any severe injuries except a broken right orbital bone. Autopsy determined Antoni died between 7-7:30 p.m. on Saturday.

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Some info on oribital bones and orbital fractures:

The “orbit” or “socket” of the eye encases the eyeball and protects its place in the skull. The structure of the orbit is made up of several orbital bones that provide a strong base for the eye so that it can perform its functions properly.

There are seven orbital bones that make up this structure: the frontal, sphenoid, zygomatic, ethmoid, lacrimal, palatine and maxilla bones. Each of these plays a role in keeping the eyeball protected.

Though small, the orbital bones are quite strong to protect the eye inside the head.
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What is an orbital bone fracture?​

An orbital bone fracture or break is what it sounds like: a broken orbital bone (or multiple bones). This is frequently the result of an accident, such as a car wreck or being hit hard by a flying object (for example, a baseball during a ballgame). Broken orbital bones can also happen if you come into contact with the force of someone’s fist.

There are three main types of orbital fractures — blowout, orbital floor and orbital rim — in which any or all of the bones can be affected.

Types of right orbital fractures​

There are a few types of orbital fractures. The type of fracture you have depends on which bones surrounding your right eye fracture or break. Types of right orbital fractures include:

• Right orbital rim fracture: An orbital rim fracture is an injury to the outer edges of the eye area. The bone in this area is thick. People with orbital rim fractures often have other facial and eye injuries.
• Right orbital floor fracture: An orbital floor fracture occurs when an injury pushes the eye socket backward. This can also affect the eye’s muscles and nerves.
• Right blowout fracture: A blowout fracture is a break on the inner wall or the surrounding bones of the eye sockets. These bones are thin, and this injury can occur as a result of seemingly minor hits to the face.

Right Orbital Fracture: Symptoms, Treatment, Recovery

A right orbital fracture is a break to the bones surrounding your right eye. Treatment may involve ice and rest, decongestants or antibiotics, or, for severe fractures, surgery.

www.healthline.com

Orbital Bones and Orbital Fractures: An Overview

Discover the seven orbital bones that make up the eye socket that encloses the eyeball. An orbital fracture can impact one or more orbital bones.

www.allaboutvision.com

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Release from CPS page below... interesting that CPS submitted this case for the Netflix show. They are wanting tips, I think they might think it's homicide but just need that one tip maybe?

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Amanda’s death was initially thought to be suspicious, and over the next 14 months, investigators spent countless hours pouring over evidence and consulting experts.

Throughout the investigation, detectives sought expertise from our own Cyber/Forensics Unit and Forensic Crime Scenes Unit. Detectives also worked closely with The Office of the Chief Medical Examiner in Calgary, a biomechanics expert and the RCMP Behavioural Sciences Unit to review the evidence in the case.

In the years following Amanda’s death, the lead investigator continued to work with Amanda’s family to provide answers, and in 2020, the case was submitted to Netflix’s Unsolved Mysteries with the hope that new public attention on the case could resolve any outstanding doubt once and for all.

Calgary Police Service homicide investigation featured in new Unsolved Mysteries episode

 

[Normancita]

I’m local and this case really freaks me out.

There’s no doubt that the neighborhood where her house is located, Castleridge, is a rough area with lots of transient characters.

I think that the sister-in-law and her ‘associates’ need to be looked into more carefully.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

I’m local and this case really freaks me out.

There’s no doubt that the neighborhood where her house is located, Castleridge, is a rough area with lots of transient characters.

I think that the sister-in-law and her ‘associates’ need to be looked into more carefully.

I am definitely in line with this. Sister might be cleared but what about her pals? I think if Amanda was "confronted" or set up somehow by another female, that female had a look out person or someone else with her for intimidation.

Is there a vibe in the area/neighborhood that it was more homicide than accidental do you think?

 

[Normancita]

I am definitely in line with this. Sister might be cleared but what about her pals? I think if Amanda was "confronted" or set up somehow by another female, that female had a look out person or someone else with her for intimidation.

Is there a vibe in the area/neighborhood that it was more homicide than accidental do you think?

I think the vibe is that there are a lot of questions surrounding her death considering all the circumstances….ex: the barking dog in distress, the person running through the yard as seen by the neighbors, the background story with the sister-in-law, the toughness/high crime area of the neighborhood.

The very fact that CPS submitted the story to Unsolved Mysteries tells me that they must have questions too….and are likely looking for tips. Eventually, someone will talk, if this was not an accident.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

I think the vibe is that there are a lot of questions surrounding her death considering all the circumstances….ex: the barking dog in distress, the person running through the yard as seen by the neighbors, the background story with the sister-in-law, the toughness/high crime area of the neighborhood.

The very fact that CPS submitted the story to Unsolved Mysteries tells me that they must have questions too….and are likely looking for tips. Eventually, someone will talk, if this was not an accident.

If murder (which is my stance as obvious lol) I truly hope it's resolved too.

I don't recall a reward offering, I'm foggy. Wish they have a reward to maybe conjure up some loose lips IF anyone knows anything.... they might talk. IF there's anything to talk about of course.

 

[FromGermany1]

Apologies if this has already been said but anyone else find it odd that her and her husband had been texting / in communication all day but the minute he can’t get hold of her he suddenly thinks ‘well I’ll wait until I get back Monday to see if she’s ok’. I don’t think he did it but it’s weird to me how communication goes from 100% to nothing. Why not phone a friend or family member to check on her or call the police for a welfare check??
I also think the chair was possibly caused by the dog jumping or similar. I don’t think it was related to her death

I wonder, why the chair in the farthest (relatively narrow) corner has fallen over. It didn't make sense to me immediately, when I saw the evidence pic.

 

[FromGermany1]

Is it proven, that the piggy bank was constantly placed there on this ledge of the wall (or how to name it)? It seems to be an odd place. I wonder, if the husband confirmed the place of this deco element, which somehow served as a weapon, possibly used by a person, perhaps otherwise "in action".

 

[Kittypoo]

Is it proven, that the piggy bank was constantly placed there on this ledge of the wall (or how to name it)? It seems to be an odd place. I wonder, if the husband confirmed the place of this deco element, which somehow served as a weapon, possibly used by a person, perhaps otherwise "in action".

I haven’t watched the Netflix show yet but I did wonder if the piggy bank (sheep?) was a red herring and had been broken in a previous unrelated incident.
Also the trouser's being down is odd unless she was on the loo or having some ‘me time’ with her best underwear on whilst on the phone to hubby. Smoking a joint. Maybe unlikely if she had a migraine though
All very strange if you take into account phone , chair etc as well

 

[FromGermany1]

I still feel like if she fell down these stairs her head would hit that ledge, that piggy bank is kind of around the corner. I just don't see her head hitting the piggy bank smack down from the angle.

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Is it normal to have stairs leading to the basement and on floor level no banister to the right side?? I for my part get an attack of dizziness, when I only look at that in the pic!
Maybe, a dog sometime also fell down/almost fell down from that part of the floor (right side of stairs) and never ever wanted to get near the stairs once more?

 

[callmehenry]

I wonder, why the chair in the farthest (relatively narrow) corner has fallen over. It didn't make sense to me immediately, when I saw the evidence pic.

I wondered if it was a red herring and actually the dog did it?

 

[callmehenry]

Is it normal to have stairs leading to the basement and on floor level no banister to the right side?? I for my part get an attack of dizziness, when I only look at that in the pic!
Maybe, a dog sometime also fell down/almost fell down from that part of the floor (right side of stairs) and never ever wanted to get near the stairs once more?

I think so too. The floor looks slippery and dogs are very quick to learn

 

[otto]

Is it normal to have stairs leading to the basement and on floor level no banister to the right side?? I for my part get an attack of dizziness, when I only look at that in the pic!
Maybe, a dog sometime also fell down/almost fell down from that part of the floor (right side of stairs) and never ever wanted to get near the stairs once more?

I'm curious about that as well. I'm wondering whether that design detail meets building code safety requirements. It looks dangerous, especially for children and anyone with balance issues.

 

[otto]

The builder provided handrails, but that small section of the floor without a railing doesn't look right. After the death is confirmed to be accidental, I'm curious whether her husband could sue the builder for wrongful death - if the statute of limitations is expanded due to uncertainty of cause of death. I think he should look into the possibility. She was supporting him and paying the bills when she died.

Stairs in Dwelling:

https://open.alberta.ca/dataset/ef6b49df-1f41-4363-be84-62b3899c9e40/resource/82a0f7a0-0fe7-4f47-90c1-1be22d492a51/download/06bci016.pdf

 

[Pseudonymph]

Without another person there, nothing about the physics of this fall makes sense to me.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

I haven’t watched the Netflix show yet but I did wonder if the piggy bank (sheep?) was a red herring and had been broken in a previous unrelated incident.
Also the trouser's being down is odd unless she was on the loo or having some ‘me time’ with her best underwear on whilst on the phone to hubby. Smoking a joint. Maybe unlikely if she had a migraine though
All very strange if you take into account phone , chair etc as well

Really good thoughts! Was the piggy bank the actual thing that caused her injury or used after as a red herring as you said? I think plausible especially after I read how those type of injuries are usually caused, especially to be severe enough to hit a spot to bleed out within 20 mins or so.

I believe she told hubby her migraine was better by the time everything went down too.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

I think so too. The floor looks slippery and dogs are very quick to learn

That would work for the dog but I think she had a cat as well.