Not as reliable as it used to be. Also, huge garage.
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Yes. The bigger picture point was that it would be much less effort, and less risky than driving around with a body looking for a wall to run into.
Not as reliable as it used to be. Also, huge garage.
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Yes. The bigger picture point was that it would be much less effort, and less risky than driving around with a body looking for a wall to run into.
I dont think anyone could survive a 90 mile an hour crash into a concrete abutment.
To me, hauling your wife that weighs 180 pounds around and staging a suicide is a lot of work and it makes him into a murderer. Probably not a legacy he would want. A car accident would cover the crime.
A young man I know didn’t survive this kind of crash a couple of months ago. It’s a horrible way to kill yourself.
I can't imagine murderers going to all this trouble. What is the point? Especially as it seems unlikely anyone will ever know what happened. Supposing a "hit man" is told to make it look like a murder/suicide...this is what he comes up with? It is ludicrous. But we will never know, in any event, IMO.
News Interview with former FBI agent Brad Garrett, on the mystery of the Sherman deaths.
Garrett has been an investigator on big murder cases during the last 15 years.
"'Happened for a reason': Mystery grows in death of Toronto billionaires"
https://youtu.be/gy3jspjrWM8
This video was previously posted however I can't find the original post to share that link. It's worth the watch.
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Thanks."An initial investigation has revealed that Honey was killed in a different location, then moved to the basement pool, police sources told the Toronto Sun."
https://nypost.com/2017/12/16/murder-suicide-suspected-after-billionaire-wife-found-dead-in-mansion/
Thanks, Sanz, for reposting. This is IMO the best interview to date. BTW I am not on the wall in this case. IMHO Double Murder, up close and personal, follow the money. I have several friends in Toronto and they agree. Absolutely NO one believes the suicide story...
Thanks.
This seems to imply a different COD than neck compression.
I guess that's where all the staging speculation comes from.
Doesn't quite line up to me.
There is likely another crime scene location within the home though.
What happened to The Sherman's?
I'm pretty new around here so apologies if my questions have already been addressed. I have a couple of problems with murder/suicide:
- was there security or cameras in the basement - and were they switched off? I had a feeling earlier in the postings it was said or implied that cameras were switched off. If switched off I cant see how that fits with murder/suicide. If you kill someone in a fit of anger there's no chance before and no point afterwards switching it off. So if Barry switched it off before that denotes pre-meditation which I think unlikely IMO. So if it was switched off it suggests external double murder/a hit.
- the belts. If Barry murdered Honey in the garage or basement area in a fit of anger why then go all the way upstairs to his closet to get the belts? Its a long trek, he then has to drag the body to the pool area and then stage both their deaths. Wouldn't there be a more convenient way to kill himself and stage her? Not sure what, but the belts are not a very obvious solution - quite lateral thinking. And I'd presume if you murder someone in a fit of anger you'd be in a bit of a panic and worrying about someone discovering you.
Just asking. I know there is very little confirmed factual material in this case - just COD so the rest might just be hearsay/speculation.
I'm pretty new around here so apologies if my questions have already been addressed. I have a couple of problems with murder/suicide:
- was there security or cameras in the basement - and were they switched off? I had a feeling earlier in the postings it was said or implied that cameras were switched off. If switched off I cant see how that fits with murder/suicide. If you kill someone in a fit of anger there's no chance before and no point afterwards switching it off. So if Barry switched it off before that denotes pre-meditation which I think unlikely IMO. So if it was switched off it suggests external double murder/a hit.
- the belts. If Barry murdered Honey in the garage or basement area in a fit of anger why then go all the way upstairs to his closet to get the belts? Its a long trek, he then has to drag the body to the pool area and then stage both their deaths. Wouldn't there be a more convenient way to kill himself and stage her? Not sure what, but the belts are not a very obvious solution - quite lateral thinking. And I'd presume if you murder someone in a fit of anger you'd be in a bit of a panic and worrying about someone discovering you.
Just asking. I know there is very little confirmed factual material in this case - just COD so the rest might just be hearsay/speculation.
Thanks, Sanz, for reposting. This is IMO the best interview to date. BTW I am not on the wall in this case. IMHO Double Murder, up close and personal, follow the money. I have several friends in Toronto and they agree. Absolutely NO one believes the suicide story...
All that is the stuff of TV and crime novels though. There are better ways to send a message, or get away with it, or have your way with victims.
What is most telling for me is that it took homicide 2 days to get involved, right after the family basically told LE that 'No, it's not a murder suicide.'.
I can't recall such an absurd event in a "murder" case previously. I have seen families publicly complain before, but never such a snap to it, ramp it up response from LE. Get the fire trucks. Get the pumper trucks. Bring in the big guns. The family told us we were wrong.
I'll gladly eat my words if someone is charged, but if ultimately LE announces it was a murder/suicide like originally thought, they just opened themselves up to a lot of criticism. Tess Richey's family should be following this closely. LE should not even be giving the appearance of pandering to the wealthy class, let alone actually doing it.
I'm not sure why the opinion of an ex-FBI investigator is holding so much weight in this case since he was not there on the scene and is not part of this investigation at all. The Toronto officers on scene at the Sherman house were so calm when approached by reporters and I believe it when the officer says there is no danger to the public. These investigators have likely seen many, many variations of suicide similar to what was discovered at the Sherman house.
Thanks, Sanz, for reposting. This is IMO the best interview to date. BTW I am not on the wall in this case. IMHO Double Murder, up close and personal, follow the money. I have several friends in Toronto and they agree. Absolutely NO one believes the suicide story...