Canada - Laura Babcock, 23, Toronto, 26 June 2012

[KEVINinTO]

I don't see what the big deal is, LB was a missing person, she still is a missing person. At the time she disappeared, there was no signs of any wrongdoing on anyone, taking a missing persons report is about as much as a LE agency will do when the TPS having missing person reported everyday.

Now, here is a very important clue to what this press conference was about, LE want to speak to who was on the those phone records, and announcing that she was "sex trade worker" makes it clear to those on the records, that LE knows what is going on. TPS also made it clear that they want those on the records to come forward.

There was nothing wrong with what they did and I do not see a case of CYA by TPS.

I think it is a huge deal when a young woman is reported missing by her family who then provide Toronto Police her phone records and the investigator does not bother to contact the last person she spoke to - who happened to be Dellen Millard.

I think its a huge deal when the lead investigator in this case acted dumbfounded when asked about the model mayhem photo shoot at the Millard hangar. Anyone with any interest in this case would have seen these pictures and yet the lead detective was unaware of them?

I could go on and on. The conduct of Toronto Police in this case is disgraceful.

 

[catboomer]

Ashes to ashes...blow in the wind..poof! they are gone!

 

[Alethea Dice]

Thanks. I listened to Parts 1 and 2 twice. He did say a couple of times that he wouldn't ID the other contacts, and asked them to come forward. What I didn't hear was that LB had contact with anyone AFTER the phone call to DM. There is a section near the end that I couldn't make out clearly. I'll give it another go.

It's at the very end - around 8:14. She says something about just wanting to be clear, it's hard to hear. Then the reporter says "Somebody had contact with her after the phone record contact, but you just don't want to elaborate right now, right? So that's correct?" He says "I want to...I don't want to elaborate at this point, okay?" She says "But you confirm that somebody else did have contact with her after that?" And he says "Yes". The video ends.

 

[THXGuru]

Joe Warmington is discussing the Police presser right now on 1010!


http://www.newstalk1010.com/player.aspx

He is really blasting them!

I listened to this, what a joke CFRB....Complete joke of a show.

Its still on, apparently, the host talked to some retired detectives who told him WM gunshot to the eye could not of been a suicide....come on.

 

[THXGuru]

I think it is a huge deal when a young woman is reported missing by her family who then provide Toronto Police her phone records and the investigator does not bother to contact the last person she spoke to - who happened to be Dellen Millard.

I think its a huge deal when the lead investigator in this case acted dumbfounded when asked about the model mayhem photo shoot at the Millard hangar. Anyone with any interest in this case would have seen these pictures and yet the lead detective was unaware of them?

I could go on and on. The conduct of Toronto Police in this case is disgraceful.

Do you live in Toronto?

http://www.torontopolice.on.ca/newsreleases/

Do you understand that more than one person goes reported to TPS missing in Toronto EVERY day?

 

[Gibson67]

I guess if you go missing and want to be found you should go missing in Hamilton

 

[ArianeEmory]

Do you live in Toronto?

http://www.torontopolice.on.ca/newsreleases/

Do you understand that more than one person goes reported to TPS missing in Toronto EVERY day?

I'm going to play devil's advocate here and mention that many of those missing persons in that log turn up as found, often the same day.

My gripe with the TPS's performance today is that they put an openly hostile representative out there who evidently knew less about the cases than we do.

 

[THXGuru]

I guess if you go missing and want to be found you should go missing in Hamilton

That is really insensitive to say, there was no reason for TPS to start an investigation. There was no foul play suggested, no leads and it was pretty clear that LB did not want to be at home. TB left with people and never returned, the truck never returned and neither did he, then community supported the search for him, a whole different story.

It is pretty clear that TPS have really no idea what has happened to her.

 

[Alethea Dice]

SL also said that they took her computer so they would be able to track her email and websites etc.

LB was using SL's iPad which TPS refused to examine - is that the computer you are referring to?

Here you go:

Since Millard’s arrest police have interviewed the Babcock family and collected evidence.

“The police have her phone records,” Babcock’s brother said. “They took her computer to see what digital conversations she’s had with anyone.”

http://www.citynews.ca/2013/05/17/family-says-missing-toronto-woman-knew-dellen-millard/

Also interesting from that link:

He said he’s not sure there is a connection between his sister’s disappearance and Millard but that it is distressing.

“It could just be circumstance,” he explained. “She was associated with a lot of people, unsavory characters, before.”

Since Millard’s arrest police have interviewed the Babcock family and collected evidence.

And:

At the time of her disappearance Babcock was apparently suffering from depression and was considered a runaway.

 

[KEVINinTO]

Do you live in Toronto?

http://www.torontopolice.on.ca/newsreleases/

Do you understand that more than one person goes reported to TPS missing in Toronto EVERY day?

Yes I do live in Toronto and yes I do follow TPS press releases and I know that missing person reports are a daily occurrence. I also know that almost as soon as the person is reported missing another press release is issued - often within hours - saying they have been found.

The actual number of missing persons who remain missing is actually quite small so it is wrong to suggest that TPS can only do so much because they are overwhelmed. In the case of Laura Babcock it appears the ONLY work done by TPS was to prepare a press release with her picture and post it on their website. Until recently this press release was scrubbed from the TPS website and there was no mention of her being missing.

I don't know how anyone can defend the disgraceful conduct of TPS in this case.

 

[JPC]

If LB was an escort, was she advertising on the escort boards or craigslist? Did she have her own website? Did she work in Yorkville (high end)? What was her escort name? If we can find that out, we will likely find a lot of stuff.
No offense but her ex must have known that she was an escort. JMO

Now about the cocaine....did DM deal it to her?

It could be a sex for drugs situation.

 

[THXGuru]

Yes I do live in Toronto and yes I do follow TPS press releases and I know that missing person reports are a daily occurrence. I also know that almost as soon as the person is reported missing another press release is issued - often within hours - saying they have been found.

The actual number of missing persons who remain missing is actually quite small so it is wrong to suggest that TPS can only do so much because they are overwhelmed. In the case of Laura Babcock it appears the ONLY work done by TPS was to prepare a press release with her picture and post it on their website. Until recently this press release was scrubbed from the TPS website and there was no mention of her being missing.

I don't know how anyone can defend the disgraceful conduct of TPS in this case.

Even the family said she was having issues, did not want to be a home, was looking for a place to stay with friends....so what? Is TPS going to do a massive search for her...now I will say that perhaps those who were looking into the case could of perhaps contacted DM....but TPS state that they did not have the phone records and the ex bf said he did....I personally don't believe that TPS are lying....maybe SL is lying.

 

[MamaDukes]

Thanks. I listened to Parts 1 and 2 twice. He did say a couple of times that he wouldn't ID the other contacts, and asked them to come forward. What I didn't hear was that LB had contact with anyone AFTER the phone call to DM. There is a section near the end that I couldn't make out clearly. I'll give it another go.

here, try at the end of this one http://www.chch.com/toronto-police-to-speak-on-babcock-disappearance/

 

[Alethea Dice]

This reminds me. The mother also stated in media, that Laura changed here name "Elle" .... IIRC she said when she started hanging out with Millard (not sure about this)?????

If she changed here name to "Elle" around the time she started hanging out with Millard, I wonder if he is her John. Or maybe he just supplied her with her choice of drug (only guessing he sold/gave her drugs before since she called him to ask for some)

The mother said she changed her name for "parties or to hang out".

Linda Babcock remembers Millard would come to the house to pick up her daughter — who started using the name Elle Ryan — for parties or to hang out.

http://news.ca.msn.com/ontario/hamilton/bosma-case-mom-remembers-dellen-millard-picking-up-daughter

 

[Wendy101]

I think it is a huge deal when a young woman is reported missing by her family who then provide Toronto Police her phone records and the investigator does not bother to contact the last person she spoke to - who happened to be Dellen Millard.

I think its a huge deal when the lead investigator in this case acted dumbfounded when asked about the model mayhem photo shoot at the Millard hangar. Anyone with any interest in this case would have seen these pictures and yet the lead detective was unaware of them?

I could go on and on. The conduct of Toronto Police in this case is disgraceful.

BBM: I thought the ex reported her missing?
Thought the family (parents) have no concern and think Laura is gone on her own free will and will return when she is ready...

The rest... I agree..

 

[THXGuru]

BBM: I thought the ex reported her missing?
Thought the family (parents) have no concern and think Laura is gone on her own free will and will return when she is ready...

The rest... I agree..

That is what I was led to believe, and if this was the case when she originally went missing, there would be no reason for TPS to be concerned.

 

[jash]

The mother said she changed her name for "parties or to hang out".



http://news.ca.msn.com/ontario/hamilton/bosma-case-mom-remembers-dellen-millard-picking-up-daughter

I read it as DM would pick up LB for parties or to hang out. The thing about her new name was like an 'aside'.

 

[THXGuru]

I read it as DM would pick up LB for parties or to hang out. The thing about her new name was like an 'aside'.

And the mother said DM seemed like a very nice guy....

 

[KEVINinTO]

BBM: I thought the ex reported her missing?
Thought the family (parents) have no concern and think Laura is gone on her own free will and will return when she is ready...

The rest... I agree..

Actually her family have been involved from the beginning in trying to find Laura. They have not been as upfront as the boyfriend but have been involved nonetheless. The parents were in contact with the original investigator who stopped giving them updates when he got a promotion.

 

[THXGuru]

. They have not been as upfront as the boyfriend .

Even more reason for TPS not to much too much effort into locating her....

You are reading too much into TPS, they simply have nothing to suggest she was murdered by DM...they even searched his farm and found nothing. Also, these used the homicide unit to investigate when generally they would not...

Let's not forget that LB's parents believe she simply is not ready to come home. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2013/05/19/toronto-missing-woman-millard-connection.html