Canada - Liana White, 29, Edmonton AB, 12 July 2005 - #3

[Alta]

Detective Campeau was quite clear, I thought, that it was because of decomposition , that made it necessary to use dental records. He also said she was not fully clothed. Doesn't sound burned to me.

Just thinking aloud, back off to my corner.

 

[Jess]

Alta

Sorry if it came off that way. I have been concentrating so hard on trying to get th einfo on here and I'm tired !!!
My apologies!!!

 

[SewingDeb]

It is supposed to be innocent until proven guilty and I cannot form an opinion until I hear the evidence. Yes I think Scott Peterson is innocent but I never thought Mark Hacking was although I reserved my opinion until I had proof.

Are you on the jury, Sugar?

 

[spygirl]

Are you on the jury, Sugar?

I don't think she knows where to find this thread SD, because it was moved from the LP forum, starting with her post.

 

[Casshew]

I don't think she knows where to find this thread SD, because it was moved from the LP forum, starting with her post.

This is not necessarily a bad thing :crazy:

 

[mysteriew]

Ok, Theory

a-hole is out and his truck breaks down. He calls Liana to come get him. She stops for gas or waves to a neighbor on her way (midnight witness). She picks him up. It is late, she is tired, maybe he was drinking or whatever. They argue and he hits her, killing her. He panics, carries her body to where she was found and drives her vehicle home. At home he is panicking. He needs an alibi. So he drives her vehicle to where it was found and stages what he thinks will look like a struggle. He then walks home and waits for a call about her not showing up for work. Instead, the witnesses start calling police first, re: the vehicle. He had already thought of his alibi- he was asleep when she left. So when police call, he gives him the rehearsed alibi, not knowing what time the witnesses called about the vehicle.
That would explain the second degree charge, as the murder occurred in the heat of the moment (during the argument). Indignty to a body was probably because he undressed her, if she was found in street wear, that would kill his alibi that she left for work as normal. He may not have thought that LE would notice a beatup old truck near the scene, as long as it wasn't right at the scene. Or maybe he was trying to think of a way to go back and get it, while they were searching for her- but didn't have a chance.

 

[SewingDeb]

I don't think she knows where to find this thread SD, because it was moved from the LP forum, starting with her post.

Thanks. I shouldn't have asked anyway.

 

[spygirl]

Ok, Theory

a-hole is out and his truck breaks down. He calls Liana to come get him. She stops for gas or waves to a neighbor on her way (midnight witness). She picks him up. It is late, she is tired, maybe he was drinking or whatever. They argue and he hits her, killing her. He panics, carries her body to where she was found and drives her vehicle home. At home he is panicking. He needs an alibi. So he drives her vehicle to where it was found and stages what he thinks will look like a struggle. He then walks home and waits for a call about her not showing up for work. Instead, the witnesses start calling police first, re: the vehicle. He had already thought of his alibi- he was asleep when she left. So when police call, he gives him the rehearsed alibi, not knowing what time the witnesses called about the vehicle.
That would explain the second degree charge, as the murder occurred in the heat of the moment (during the argument). Indignty to a body was probably because he undressed her, if she was found in street wear, that would kill his alibi that she left for work as normal. He may not have thought that LE would notice a beatup old truck near the scene, as long as it wasn't right at the scene. Or maybe he was trying to think of a way to go back and get it, while they were searching for her- but didn't have a chance.

Look out, Anne Rule!

 

[Jess]

Ok, Theory

a-hole is out and his truck breaks down. He calls Liana to come get him. She stops for gas or waves to a neighbor on her way (midnight witness). She picks him up. It is late, she is tired, maybe he was drinking or whatever. They argue and he hits her, killing her. He panics, carries her body to where she was found and drives her vehicle home. At home he is panicking. He needs an alibi. So he drives her vehicle to where it was found and stages what he thinks will look like a struggle. He then walks home and waits for a call about her not showing up for work. Instead, the witnesses start calling police first, re: the vehicle. He had already thought of his alibi- he was asleep when she left. So when police call, he gives him the rehearsed alibi, not knowing what time the witnesses called about the vehicle.
That would explain the second degree charge, as the murder occurred in the heat of the moment (during the argument). Indignty to a body was probably because he undressed her, if she was found in street wear, that would kill his alibi that she left for work as normal. He may not have thought that LE would notice a beatup old truck near the scene, as long as it wasn't right at the scene. Or maybe he was trying to think of a way to go back and get it, while they were searching for her- but didn't have a chance.

:clap: :clap: :clap:

 

[Mabel]

Of course I don't know if your scenario is correct or not, mysteriew, but it sure ties all the pieces together in a logical way. It'll be interesting to find out how close you've come to the real story.

 

[Mabel]

It is supposed to be innocent until proven guilty and I cannot form an opinion until I hear the evidence. Yes I think Scott Peterson is innocent but I never thought Mark Hacking was although I reserved my opinion until I had proof.

Sugar, where have you been? We spent so much time gathering the info you asked for on the Peterson thread but you forgot to come back. :waitasec:

 

[Casshew]

Of course I don't know if your scenario is correct or not, mysteriew, but it sure ties all the pieces together in a logical way. It'll be interesting to find out how close you've come to the real story.

I agree... it makes total sense.. like a movie of the week.

It is sad to think that if this scenario is close to what happened... Liana brought Ashley out with her to meet A-hole and was there when her Mom was killed.

 

[lauriej]

I am still puzzled by this too - it has to be something bigger than just moving the body-it has been suggested she was burned-if so that explains why she was so decomposed (or is a week enough to destroy all paths to cause of death)..
They know there were signs of a struggle but not when or how she died-doesnt make sense to me?
I suppose he could have beheaded her and the head is missing- if he were to have shot her..that type of thing-but we will have to wait and see- I hunch it will be sealed till the court proceedings begin.

...........i haven't read all of this thread and so may be repeating but......

...i saw the press conference...and he was quite clear in stating that the 2nd charge , "offering an indignity to a human body" was because the body had been moved to the field.......it is illegal to move a dead body anywhere.......

...also, he said dental records were used for a positive ID , due to decomp, ( therefore her head was still present )and that the cause of death was still unknown, ( for certain ) awaiting the m.e.'s assessment......

 

[newtv]

It is supposed to be innocent until proven guilty and I cannot form an opinion until I hear the evidence. Yes I think Scott Peterson is innocent but I never thought Mark Hacking was although I reserved my opinion until I had proof.

could we try to keep this about lianna -and not bring anything negative to the memory of laci-scott was found guilty-there are plenty of places to discuss him- this happens to be a thread about a woman killed in very much the same situation as laci.
This is not a place to support scott - (or any convicted wife and baby killers), The fact is he is guilty in the eyes of the law so thats what we know for sure. That is whats true-let Laci and Lori and now Liana rest in peace.

 

[newtv]

(LOL)

rofl- that is too funny cass- I really enjoy your humor-thanks for making me laugh from the belly tonight.

 

[newtv]

What I would really like to do is sit down with these guys and ask them "now seriously do you really think you were going to get away with this?"
When White said he was going to have his own search I said to my son watch this he is going to find the body. Could you get any dumber?
I feel so sorry for little Ashley what a lousy hand to be dealt.

aint that the truth?

added- the only upside to this if u can call it that - is the little girl is still young and maybe with the love of the grandparents she has a chance at a happy life - she might not even remember her dad in 10 years.

 

[Bobbisangel]

It is supposed to be innocent until proven guilty and I cannot form an opinion until I hear the evidence. Yes I think Scott Peterson is innocent but I never thought Mark Hacking was although I reserved my opinion until I had proof.

It is innocent until proven guilty in a COURT OF LAW..... BUT we are not a part of the court or jury and so we can have whatever opinion we want to have whether we have all of the evidence or not.

 

[newtv]

I know........it really just blows my mind that some idiot actually thought by changing it up a bit (not using water as a disposal site)........he looked less obvious. And just when he thought they weren't going to find her, he decided to move things along and point 'his' group in the right direction............:doh:

But this is Canada so he'll be looking at 5 years in a cushy resort for offing his wife and unborn child.......... (no offense to Canada):blowkiss:

It wont be that pretty- and it will be more like 10-14 years I would think- but I know what u are saying..its not like the hard time in SQ. Nice to see ya over here.

 

[Jovin]

True enough....

I wanted to point out the very rare references the Canadian media makes to Scott Peterson. We're just so isolated up here in the frigid north.

Alien-Daddy

I'm on the border, and mostly feel more American than Canadian (as far as my news coverage is concerned.) My closest tv stations are those in Buffalo, and Hamilton Ontario is the second closest. I rarely listen to Canadian news, and don't even get my local paper. (It sucks!)

So, I'm on the net, and on MSNBC, FOX NEWS, AND CNN (last resort) for my news. AND TRUST ME....IT'S ANYTHING BUT FRIGID WHERE I AM!! I'm sure you must be having similar temps, but haven't checked lately...we're in the high nineties most days with humidity on top of that.

 

[Bobbisangel]

I'm still confused about his truck. The way I understood it was that he drove his pickup while searching for Lianna. He was with the other searchers that came upon her body. 911 was called and when the LE came they arrested the husband and then put a tarp over his truck and towed it to police impound so that it could be searched. I didn't get the idea that he left his truck at the scene when he dumped her body.

I wonder if she met with someone before midnight or was just seen by someone else. I'm surprised that she was still up at midnight. She has to get up really early for work and then being 4 months pregnant you still get really tired.

I wonder where he murdered her. It sounds like the first time they went through the house they didn't notice anything out of order. But then they went back and really gave it the once over...spent a couple days didn't they?
That is when this creep stayed with his in-laws. It makes sense to me that the house is where the murder took place. He must not have shot her or used a knife because that would have been obvious. If they have been unable to tell without an autopsy then it must have been smothering or strangulation. The guy is a big thick guy and probably has hands like two hams. I'm glad that she put up a struggle. That way there is DNA under the fingernails and I'll bet he had some scratches somewhere on his body.

By her body not being fully clothed it says to me that he was staging another scene. There is no reason for her not to be clothed otherwise unless her clothing got torn during the struggle.

I wonder if we will ever know what actually happened....what started the fight and what made Michael think that his financial situation...if that was the problem.... would better itself if Lianna was dead? Did he mean to kill her or did a fight just get way out of hand? Questions questions.