CANADA - Lucas Fowler & Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #3

[midwinter]

maybe this is why they say they are heading east, its south east but its east i guess

Snow lake is south west of Gillam

 

[BearCatSafari]

Seriously.
There was the woman from a Port Alberni restaurant who said one of the teens owed her $17 for butter chicken that he didn’t pay for.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/arson-business-manitoba-thompson-1.5217858

Any links to the Port Alberni story please?

 

[Snoop Sister]

So are they heading southwest if this is true?

 

[Wizardofwaz]

I've never seen tap at the pump.

Most new stations have tap that I've seen. And esso has fast pay. Which is a key fob for your key ring. You just touch that and it Bill's direct to your card.
They may have used something like that?

 

[PingTheRouter]

Snow lake is south west of Gillam

dammit it is too.. you can see i'd be bad with directions.. i can tell you mixing up east and west is something i do a lot.. probably a form of dyslexia

 

[Snoop Sister]

Yea she is never gonna see that 17$... lol

Lol least of her worries if she were to tick him off!

 

[SilentSentry]

Snow lake is south west of Gillam

Yea, they likely had their phones turned off and no navigational aids, most kids these days can't read maps very well, there's an app for that

They probably had no idea that the road they were dead ends in Gillam

 

[otto]

I've seen the lack of cash mentioned several times. Our card payment system is a little ahead of the USA. We can tap our bank cards at most points of sale up to $100. If Leondard Dyck was killed Friday, and the RAV4 was burnt out Monday it's possible he funded train tickets to Churchill that night. His cards wouldn't have been cancelled because no one knew he was dead. He has likely been funding them up until today.

Thank you.

Sounds possible they moved onto Ontario and Quebec, and they might be looking for a vehicle with GPS or camper. Did they dye their hair red?

 

[MistyWaters]

I'm wondering if they were just going to try and steal his car but he put up a resistance, maybe even got physical and in their agitated and crazy thinking killed him to get the car.

Maybe the charge will get upgraded when the two are apprehended along with appropriate charges filed for LF and CD.

Because if someone is killed during the course of a robbery that’s still 1st degree murder (Culpable homicide) as per SillyBilly’s c/p of Canada’s Criminal Code a bit earlier on this thread.

 

[BearCatSafari]

Well, fires do happen.

jmo

What do you mean?

 

[MistyWaters]

Thank you.

Sounds possible they moved onto Ontario and Quebec, and they might be looking for a vehicle with GPS or camper. Did they dye their hair red?

During today’s PC nothing was mentioned about Ontario or Quebec. But there’s an “increased police presence” in and around Gillam, Manitoba including roadblocks.

 

[Snoop Sister]

I hope these heathens are caught soon!

Excuse my language.

 

[SilentSentry]

So are they heading southwest if this is true?

From Gillam the only way you can make any serious headway is to backtrack southwest to around lake winnipeg to places where roads are more dense.

The reserve they are on is incredibly isolated, in winter it is nearly unreachable by road, and churchill is even worse. Think Ice Road Truckers TV show and you're not far off the mark.

They have to head back south if they want to escape, and the only road goes southwest around lake winnipeg.

 

[Snoopster]

So are they heading southwest if this is true?

That's the only way via road to get from Gillam to Winnipeg. There's no way to go southeast from Gillam. (according to google maps). Gillam to Snow Lake (rumour) is about 6 hours and it's another 7 hours to Winnipeg.

 

[LoisLane]

Any links to the Port Alberni story please?

Correction. He owes her $18.90. I guess these guys like to keep everything under $20.

“The manager of the Little Valley Deli near the high school said she instantly recognized the picture of Schmegelsky as the person who came into her store a couple of months ago.

She said a young, tall man had come in and ordered two butter chicken poutines and left without paying for them. He told her that his bank card had been declined and that he would go back to his locker to retrieve some cash. But he never came back.

She said she tried looking up security footage Tuesday but she was unable to retrieve it. She said she was owed $18.90.”
Missing B.C. teens now suspects in deaths of tourist couple and unidentified man: police

 

[Tealgrove]

So how does one get to Ontario from Gillam region?

I don't see that many roads

Exactly

 

[sleepinoz]

Maybe the charge will get upgraded when the two are apprehended along with appropriate charges filed for LF and CD.

Because if someone is killed during the course of a robbery that’s still 1st degree murder (Culpable homicide) as per SillyBilly’s c/p of Canada’s Criminal Code a bit earlier on this thread.

I think the charge is a safe one, they can upgrade it later on. For the moment though it gives them more resources. IMO

The charge allows the RCMP to issue country-wide warrants for McLeod and Schmegelsky who are also suspects in the murder of Australian Lucas Fowler and his American girlfriend Chynna Deese.

Suspect's Father Warns His Son Will Go Out In 'Blaze Of Glory'

 

[Carpetchick]

I don’t think they actually knew where they were going. 18 &19 year olds use GPS to travel and they would not do that for fear of being tracked. I bet they did not know that the road to Gilliam ended.

 

[Trooper]

No reports yet of any food they have purchased. $20 of fuel, that's it. These are skinny growing boys, height of summer, running on adrenaline and the occasional can of coke. Hunger must be a huge factor. I very much doubt if they are the kind of marksmen who could shoot a rabbit on the fly, or a duck, and then there is the business of firing up and cooking it, a dead giveaway, especially to overhead drone flights.

Growling tummies, another dead giveaway. Robbing people of food, that's a bit iffy, a bit OTT risky, really. You just cant tell who has what food, and who hasn't. ….

So. I wonder what they are eating.

Hunger has a lot of consequences. Lethargy, muddled thinking, painful cramps, restless sleep, a sense of despond and despair, a narrowing of priorities, food being the major over riding thought, above and beyond safety and security....

 

[ternasha]

Murder charge laid against two teens in B.C., victim now known