CANADA - Lucas Fowler, Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #7

[greenfern]

I just hope they don’t have a working flashlight at this point, and are forced to stumble around in the dark.

I hope they do. That'll stand out in the gloom nicely!

 

[Handsome Sailor]

you will smell or hear the bear before you see it, at night

 

[otto]

Were these old abandoned tracks or tracks in correct use, does anyone know?

I heard something about two tracks, one used, one unused and over grown. I'm guessing they were on the overgrown unused track, as the main track was watched.

 

[MNT]

they obviously cased the area and planned to end up here

I think there's a big element of gambling in this strategy, but agree with it in so far as it being a loose plan. Dumping the car further north-east then heading back south shows some strategy.

I'm utterly shocked that the RCMP didn't have a minor surveillance presence here in the town/s since it's feasible to walk from the Gillam area to here along a track. KM and BS must have felt pretty confident day by day knowing they were moving away from the path of the helicopters and planes. They could have made it quite a way out of the net had it not been for this citizen sighting.

 

[Cdndadeh]

What's going through their heads right now? I mean, they know they've been spotted, so what's their plan? To live out the rest of their lives hiding in dense bush eating from a dump?

This is what spooks me! They had a chance in Gillam but here they have to know they’re sunk so what’s in store for a swan song?

 

[Sillybilly]

I have to go out.
Hopefully when back there will be good news.

 

[10ofRods]

What's going through their heads right now? I mean, they know they've been spotted, so what's their plan? To live out the rest of their lives hiding in dense bush eating from a dump?

It's tense and desperate. Joint suicide/murder-suicide. Suicide by cop. Steal a car. Take a hostage. Run some more. Surrender peacefully, ask for mercy.

 

[Seattle1]

Alexis Daish‏Verified account @LexiDaish
Just spoke to a member of the volunteer group whose peers spotted the men believed to be teen fugitives - he tells me they saw them in a garbage dump, then when they saw the volunteers’ truck, they ran away. He said they were moving slightly erratically.@9NewsAUS

6:51 PM - 28 Jul 2019 from Gillam, Manitoba PST

 

[Zella]

you will smell or hear the bear before you see it, at night

I'm thinking at this rate, LE might smell BS and KM before they see them.

 

[puppyraiser]

Austin Grabish
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The RCMP tells me at this time they do NOT have reports of shots fired in York Landing. #cbcmb
@CBCAlerts

 

[HopeForTheBest]

I am guessing that all their other clothes were burnt and they have not had any way of finding or buying other clothes. Despite all the speculation here, the only reported interactions they have had with other people have all been fine - in stores, being helped when bogged. So maybe they haven't been robbing houses and haven't heard Bryer's dads idea that they should go down in a "blaze of glory" yet. If they were going to kill/rob someone else and take a car, they would have done that before police realised they were here a week ago. We still haven't been told how Mr Dyck died and no evidence has been given to even link them with the other murders.

Hmmm. I haven’t read that much on here and thought it was more established. I don’t want to think that there might be different people loose who killed those three. It’s a tragedy regardless and I hope this ends safely.

 

[minn77]

If the sighting was K and B im amazed and dumbfounded that they are still in the general area scavenging in the dump. Id say they had no plan and just drove till they hit the end of the road. No one would purposely put themselves in a remote area where undoubtedly every local has a gun. Jmo

 

[Deleted member 248860]

Not great weather to be outdoors overnight. Expected low for Thompson is 7°C/45°F, rain and possible thunderstorms, clearing overnight.

 

[afitzy]

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@otto were you able to get a map of the town area? Trying to see the garbage dump location but not finding it on google maps.

 

[otto]

So...York Landing is 200 Km (about 123 miles) from Gillam. 5 (or 6) days since last sighting. They would have to travel, at a minimum, 20-25 miles per day to get to York Landing. Is that even possible, accounting for sleep breaks, eating, etc... if they were traveling by foot or rail? It does lead credence to the possibility they had some third-party assistance in getting there.

Yes

 

[10ofRods]

you will smell or hear the bear before you see it, at night

Yes, especially if you're a light sleeper. We try to choose crunchy places to sleep. It's a bit exhilerating to hear footsteps at night. Our bears here in California are pretty well-behaved, though.

 

[Betty P]

So...York Landing is 200 Km (about 123 miles) from Gillam. 5 (or 6) days since last sighting. They would have to travel, at a minimum, 20-25 miles per day to get to York Landing. Is that even possible, accounting for sleep breaks, eating, etc... if they were traveling by foot or rail? It does lead credence to the possibility they had some third-party assistance in getting there.

My suspicion, too, if the sighting here is verified.

 

[copkid]

These are not smart young men. They're fortunate they picked a tough part of the country to navigate due to it being heavily wooded and isolated.

I'm speculating they hiked the 60kms from Gillam, about 10 kms a day, and are now without weapons and supplies.

I hope these young men are caught tonight without incident.

Gillam to York Landing is 204km...they were covering a lot more than 10km per day.

 

[HopeForTheBest]

This is what spooks me! They had a chance in Gillam but here they have to know they’re sunk so what’s in store for a swan song?

MOO but I can’t think they’re actively thinking right now.

 

[BearCatSafari]

This is what spooks me! They had a chance in Gillam but here they have to know they’re sunk so what’s in store for a swan song?

*IF* it was them scavenging at the dump, my guess is a pathetic arrest like a fart in the wind is in store for these two.