GUILTY Canada - Noelle Paquette, 27, Sarnia, Ont, 31 Dec 2012 - #1

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Two against one...I'll bet they succeeded in kidnapping her and mix that with murder..it's a capital offense. In the US...not sure about Canada. Does Canada even have captial murder?

25 yrs is the most they will get....ugh
 
Just some thoughts...

MM and TB were charged with first degree murder. This means that the crime was in fact premeditated. The question i do have is, since it appears that both MM and TB were deeply involved in the BDSM community would it be plausible that they had intended to abduct a victim to feed their "urges" and let her go, but then realized that they couldn't just let her go because she had seen their faces so they decided they had to take her life and/or in the midst of fulfilling their sick fantasies they accidentally took her life by the inflicted harm they had caused her. If the abduction turned into murder that was not originally intended could they still be charged with first degree murder or would it have to ALL be planned?

I am thinking of PB and KH in regards to TH being poisoned and assaulted leading to her death.

Also, it could be possible that MM and TB attempted to abduct NP but she fought her attackers and they took her life. Perhaps never becoming a victim of a sexual assault?

I can only hope they never got the chance to violate this poor girl. I hope she fought back with all she had and that is why MM is in splints. Just the thought of all this disgusts me.

IMO MOO

I think it can qualify as 1st degree if 2 serious crimes are committed at the same time....for example, murder & rape or forcible confinement. Even if not premeditated.
 
Edit: Ignore below I was mistaken and incorrect ( Wish i could blame it on the booze :( but none around)

TB and NP knew each other according to NP facebook ( Scentsy was listed with TBs name) So to me she was targeted directly if it was premeditated
 
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Two against one...I'll bet they succeeded in kidnapping her and mix that with murder..it's a capital offense. In the US...not sure about Canada. Does Canada even have captial murder?

No, but, they damn well should. :furious:
 
kind of just speaking into the universe, but i would like to know how an arrest was made so quickly. almost seems like part of the "thrill" was being caught?

dominate act... switch to submissive ??
 
TB posted this commentary under the topic of Sexual Abuse and BDSM only a month ago. Appears that she herself was a victim of abuse - at least in her words:

Lana_Caine: about 1 month ago | report

"well as a survivor i had to try a lot of different aspects of kink to find the specific things that i liked. some things i thought i would enjoy i wound up really hating, they would cause me to disassociate to a very bad place. yet others (like fake rape) that i thought i would hate are the things i really enjoy. it was a long exploration not just of kink but of myself. my kinks also helped in my "recovery" because they caused me to really look at the reasons i enjoyed them.

i guess the most important thing is to try everything once, i mean if she doesnt like it thats cool at least she knows. and kink has some strange healing powers for survivors. better than sessions upon sessions of counselling id dare to say. in fact i personally loved the exploration of kink, to my abuse, to how i became the person i am. i am much more accepting of myself and it helped me see that i do deserve to have the things i want from life :)"

Victim becomes predator? Hmmm.
 
TB and NP knew each other according to NP facebook ( Scentsy was listed with TBs name)

ok, what is Scentsy? So, you are saying that they knew NP and TB knew each other for sure? Can you please explain this?
 
ok, what is Scentsy? So, you are saying that they knew NP and TB knew each other for sure? Can you please explain this?

Scentsy is candles ( think avon) and according to NPs facebook under likes i believe it shows Scentsy with TBs name next to it as if a rep for scentsy. I do not know if they actually knew each other but it would imply they did.
 
I is SO much more shocking and saddening when you see her in the Xmas pictures on her family's FB pages.
I almost hope that they do not close their pages...because it will be so 'humanizing' when it goes to trial.

Am I an idiot thinking that way???
 
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